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Sfinder没有造谣沈波贪污公款,他号召大家帮助沈波把账目搞清楚,以免别人有机可乘。sfinder的帖子都在这个论坛上,资金使用明细很多人都问过,没有人出来回应,只有今天才有stan发出账单。我们希望看到个透明的操作而已。毕竟都是我们的血汗钱


另外,3I中国的账本一直是公开的,谁都可以查到。Sfinder自己不去查一下,直接到处发帖发言,造谣沈波贪污公款,这么做的目的是什么呢?

附上资金使用明细。
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

如果有人有疑问,想查账,又不想自己去翻历史帖子,就发个帖子说请把链接发给我,自然有热心人回复你。直接就指向丑闻,这么做未免太龌龊了点。

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lucky you not live in china  country with  no privacy  LOL
If so, I accept this accusation, and please sue me.

Best reply!

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stan刚刚才发出来的,请找历史贴。不过it is all we need .
ripplexiaoshan,

1) do u know BM issued 400btc for chinese market in April?
2)Is there any report on how this fund been used in chinese market?
3) is there any receipts for public reviewing ?
4) how many ppl in chinese community even know this fund exist ?

BTW, OP, please don't represent Chinese community, as I know, only Sfinder is checking  how their leader spend around 400BTC BM's funding, with unknown intention.


https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

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ok. thanks for your  confirmation. end of the story.  the QQ message is private message. is not for public? and we are not able to identify he is sfinder as well. can i see your naked picture in your cellphone . if no then you need to respect other ppl's privacy as well. i know in china ppl do not respect other's privacy but in states we do   

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我生活在美国和沈波先生一样没有微博和 qq。
我是电脑系研究生。sfinder is my TA
Sfinder, 你的支持者也不少,完全可以把这事说清楚,何必要躲在这个ID后面呢?

如果你不承认coins是你,那么LZ你倒是介绍一下你是谁,QQ群或者微博上叫什么? 明人不做暗事。 否则你一个总共没发几个帖子,而且大部分帖子都是给Sfinder辩护的新ID,弄个投票又有什么说服力呢?

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hi shan,  sorry for bugging you . just try to confirm with you if  the QQ message is from private QQ group and not a public forum?  i know in china ppl do not respect the privacy but in USA we do .

"Zhao150" told me the QQ message screenshot was from his private QQ group and you took it without his permission. I think we should respect ppl's  privacy. can not post ppl's private message in the public. it is violated our US law. you may get sued   

1) please focusing on this forum since sfinder has nothing to do with  the guy in btc38(more than 2 diff id in btc38 as posted above)

2)please focusing on why he got banned right after he try to track down the 400btc fun's issue
as posted below
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10842.0


3) please let us know if " btswildpig深山野猪 Chinese community " is your  another id in chinese board

Just Chat to sfinder over skype . he told me "ripplexiaoshan" just banned him form posting to this forum since his investigation need "ripplexiaoshan"   's  chinese team to report all the fund that received from I3 chinese marketing team.

too bad so sad

 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

I never banned him, nor did I have the permission to do that, as a local subforum moderator.

Actually I indeed received a lot of accusations about Sfinder from many active members from Chinese community, most of them are continuously contributing to the community.  Probably other global moderators banned him. Obviously, I am not the only one who received these accusations about Sfinder. 

I am still investigating this event, will disclose more info when necessary. What I can say now is that the accusations in this post is just a very small part of the total proofs I received.

Keep tuned, not turned  :D

I like discussion, so I will answer all of your questions. :D
1/ whether Sfinder is linked to the guys spreading FUD on BTC38 or not, it is a critical issue. Unfortunately, we have proof showing that Sfinder posted same message on this forum and on BTC38, BTW, chatting history in QQ group shows that he admitted himself.

2/ I didn't ban him, nor I have the permission, I told you. If he is really banned, obviously there is a reason. I'll figure out.

3/ btswildpig is not me, he is one of the three representatives of Chinese community elected by over 50 Chinese members with good reputation and nominated by Bo Shen. His responsibility is to translate BM's post and as the bridge to communicate with 3I.

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hi shan,  sorry for bugging you . just try to confirm with you if  the QQ message is from private QQ group and not a public forum?  i know in china ppl do not respect the privacy but in USA we do .

"Zhao150" told me the QQ message screenshot was from his private QQ group and you took it without his permission. I think we should respect ppl's  privacy. can not post ppl's private message in the public. it is violated our US law. you may get sued   



that QQ guy is not "sfinder" in this forum . they both not related

lot of ppl form chinese community  don not even know has this 400btc fund. there is not tracking for how this fun been used ? would you like to make a poll for it ?

following is a reply from chinese community and indicated 400btc is a "maze"


我到现在连中国区负责人是谁都不知道,你们都说是沈波,一 他没亲自确认,二,有无团队还是只有沈波一人负责。三,个人感觉这个中国区团队好神秘。

如果确实是沈先生负责这块的事务,和中国社区的沟通还是不够,我不觉得宣传推广有必要搞得和地下党一样。

BTW, OP, please don't represent Chinese community, as I know, only Sfinder is checking  how their leader spend around 400BTC BM's funding, with unknown intention.

Here is a one of the proofs that I received from a member of Chinese community about Sfinder's chating message in QQ chatting group。
The translation: Post in the forum, to say that there is scandal in 3i China, they pocked the 2 million RMB market promoting fund, then the price of BTSX will go down to 6 cent(1 US cent).



Unfortunately we have plenty of proofs that they are the same person. He even admitted himself in QQ chatting group, all the chatting history are still there.

 However, I don't want to waste time here explaining to you. Because you and sfinder are in the same delegate team, or even the same person(given your post history and short life on the forum).  I am still waiting for the investigation result of the three representatives --  Michaelcat,metalallen and WildPig. They will give truth to the whole community. Good luck.

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I am not sure if sfinder misbehavior but if he said something in QQ group is ok since QQ group is private group not for public.

if he posted in the forum then will consider as misbehavior. that is why i do not like china, ppl there even record you in the private qq Chanel which is not intend to go public.

 
i know you refer to  the 400btc fund for chinese community... LOL

I think it is a cause for concern, but there is no need to overreact. The OP is very distasteful with his DACSunlimited-like user name that can be misleading to others, and that is what leads me to lean towards this being more purposed towards FUD than innocent inquisition.

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i know you refer to  the 400btc fund for chinese community... LOL

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Sfinder announced at a QQ group yesterday that he would start a post to indicate a scandal regarding the I3 China in order to drive the price of BTSX down to 0.06 CNY (Now it's 0.1 CNY) . Many people from the Chinese community witnessed that comment and his intentions . He has a long rap sheet in the Chinese community , everybody knows that , including some well respected members .



Obvious is obvious. :)

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the truth for how the 400btc fund were spent.  LOL


that QQ guy is not "sfinder" in this forum . they both not related

lot of ppl form chinese community  don not even know has this 400btc fund. there is not tracking for how this fun been used ? would you like to make a poll for it ?

following is a reply from chinese community and indicated 400btc is a "maze"


我到现在连中国区负责人是谁都不知道,你们都说是沈波,一 他没亲自确认,二,有无团队还是只有沈波一人负责。三,个人感觉这个中国区团队好神秘。

如果确实是沈先生负责这块的事务,和中国社区的沟通还是不够,我不觉得宣传推广有必要搞得和地下党一样。

BTW, OP, please don't represent Chinese community, as I know, only Sfinder is checking  how their leader spend around 400BTC BM's funding, with unknown intention.

Here is a one of the proofs that I received from a member of Chinese community about Sfinder's chating message in QQ chatting group。
The translation: Post in the forum, to say that there is scandal in 3i China, they pocked the 2 million RMB market promoting fund, then the price of BTSX will go down to 6 cent(1 US cent).



Unfortunately we have plenty of proofs that they are the same person. He even admitted himself in QQ chatting group, all the chatting history are still there.

 However, I don't want to waste time here explaining to you. Because you and sfinder are in the same delegate team, or even the same person(given your post history and short life on the forum).  I am still waiting for the investigation result of the three representatives --  Michaelcat,metalallen and WildPig. They will give truth to the whole community. Good luck.

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I3中国社区的推广基金(400个比特币,當時值近200萬人民幣)问卷,看看大家是否知道bm给我们的市场发展基金

1)I3中国社区的推广基金终于可以让社区监督其400个bts推广基金的账目了,根据sudo网友的回帖(贴在下面,谢谢ripplexiaoshan 版主提供的宝贵链接),以前查账是需要提交申请的。
沈波先生终于能允许社区自由查账说明了他对社区要求的大力支持 +5%

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10912.msg143938#msg143938

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

sfinder告诉我原来的链接是不让大家看的,要看得申请,我看了sudo 6月1号的回复证实了sfinder的说法

他从去年开始每个月从AGS收10个BTC, 如果追踪一下地址你会发现所有的钱都到了一个账号,账号余额上千币
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTwk-e7yzJydDFnQmlkTVlkbWpubnJBbzR2UG5ucnc&usp=sharing#gid=0

最近又从AGS拿了400个BTC, 然后最有意思的是把账目锁起来了不给外人看。所有的I3账目包括每人的工资都是公开的,只有中国区的是锁住的,这得有多黑暗阿,简单的从blockchain看这400个btc进了两个人的大账号,这俩人是谁不得而知。

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

现在中国除了几个大V的微波还有什么宣传么?真正在实实在在做推广的人有谁从沈波哪里拿到过1分钱?Snail你收到过宣传经费么?熊熊你呢?heyD的微波?论坛的版主?麦克猫的翻译?除了引长工那100bts,他的钱都花哪里去了?我觉得英文好的同学应该把这个情况告诉stan。 实在忍不住了上来说两句,大家评评理。

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另外,3I中国的账本一直是公开的,谁都可以查到。Sfinder自己不去查一下,直接到处发帖发言,造谣沈波贪污公款,这么做的目的是什么呢?

附上资金使用明细。
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

如果有人有疑问,想查账,又不想自己去翻历史帖子,就发个帖子说请把链接发给我,自然有热心人回复你。直接就指向丑闻,这么做未免太龌龊了点。

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just "he says and she says". nothing can prove 3 of them linked . you just guessing . chinese law does not apply here.   he got banned right after his posted the 400btc post.

if there is ironed proof that sfinder did misbehavior then our team will make a decision but not causing by his 400btc post 



for following accusations please find the evidence in this forum to prove it. please do not "fudge". 
Quote
I never banned him, nor did I have the permission to do that, as a local subforum moderator.

Actually I indeed received a lot of accusations about Sfinder from many active members from Chinese community, most of them are continuously contributing to the community.  Probably other global moderators banned him. Obviously, I am not the only one who received these accusations about Sfinder. 

I am still investigating this event, will disclose more info when necessary. What I can say now is that the accusations in this post is just a very small part of the total proofs I received.

Keep tuned, not turned  :D




1) please focusing on this forum since sfinder has nothing to do with  the guy in btc38(more than 2 diff id in btc38 as posted above)

2)please focusing on why he got banned right after he try to track down the 400btc fun's issue
as posted below
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10842.0


3) please let us know if " btswildpig深山野猪 Chinese community " is your  another id in chinese board

Just Chat to sfinder over skype . he told me "ripplexiaoshan" just banned him form posting to this forum since his investigation need "ripplexiaoshan"   's  chinese team to report all the fund that received from I3 chinese marketing team.

too bad so sad

 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

I never banned him, nor did I have the permission to do that, as a local subforum moderator.

Actually I indeed received a lot of accusations about Sfinder from many active members from Chinese community, most of them are continuously contributing to the community.  Probably other global moderators banned him. Obviously, I am not the only one who received these accusations about Sfinder. 

I am still investigating this event, will disclose more info when necessary. What I can say now is that the accusations in this post is just a very small part of the total proofs I received.

Keep tuned, not turned  :D

I like discussion, so I will answer all of your questions. :D
1/ whether Sfinder is linked to the guys spreading FUD on BTC38 or not, it is a critical issue. Unfortunately, we have proof showing that Sfinder posted same message on this forum and on BTC38, BTW, chatting history in QQ group shows that he admitted himself.

2/ I didn't ban him, nor I have the permission, I told you. If he is really banned, obviously there is a reason. I'll figure out.

3/ btswildpig is not me, he is one of the three representatives of Chinese community elected by over 50 Chinese members with good reputation and nominated by Bo Shen. His responsibility is to translate BM's post and as the bridge to communicate with 3I.

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ripplexiaoshan,

1) do u know BM issued 400btc for chinese market in April?
2)Is there any report on how this fund been used in chinese market?
3) is there any receipts for public reviewing ?
4) how many ppl in chinese community even know this fund exist ?

BTW, OP, please don't represent Chinese community, as I know, only Sfinder is checking  how their leader spend around 400BTC BM's funding, with unknown intention.


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that QQ guy is not "sfinder" in this forum . they both not related

lot of ppl form chinese community  don not even know has this 400btc fund. there is not tracking for how this fun been used ? would you like to make a poll for it ?

following is a reply from chinese community and indicated 400btc is a "maze"


我到现在连中国区负责人是谁都不知道,你们都说是沈波,一 他没亲自确认,二,有无团队还是只有沈波一人负责。三,个人感觉这个中国区团队好神秘。

如果确实是沈先生负责这块的事务,和中国社区的沟通还是不够,我不觉得宣传推广有必要搞得和地下党一样。

BTW, OP, please don't represent Chinese community, as I know, only Sfinder is checking  how their leader spend around 400BTC BM's funding, with unknown intention.

Here is a one of the proofs that I received from a member of Chinese community about Sfinder's chating message in QQ chatting group。
The translation: Post in the forum, to say that there is scandal in 3i China, they pocked the 2 million RMB market promoting fund, then the price of BTSX will go down to 6 cent(1 US cent).



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1) please focusing on this forum since sfinder has nothing to do with  the guy in btc38(more than 2 diff id in btc38 as posted above)

2)please focusing on why he got banned right after he try to track down the 400btc fun's issue
as posted below
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10842.0


3) please let us know if " btswildpig深山野猪 Chinese community " is your  another id in chinese board

Just Chat to sfinder over skype . he told me "ripplexiaoshan" just banned him form posting to this forum since his investigation need "ripplexiaoshan"   's  chinese team to report all the fund that received from I3 chinese marketing team.

too bad so sad

 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

I never banned him, nor did I have the permission to do that, as a local subforum moderator.

Actually I indeed received a lot of accusations about Sfinder from many active members from Chinese community, most of them are continuously contributing to the community.  Probably other global moderators banned him. Obviously, I am not the only one who received these accusations about Sfinder. 

I am still investigating this event, will disclose more info when necessary. What I can say now is that the accusations in this post is just a very small part of the total proofs I received.

Keep tuned, not turned  :D

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