there  were a threads for it (see Toast 's reply  AS WELL)
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10850.msg143739#msg143739

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10850.msg143818#msg143818

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10850.msg143674#msg143674

 https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10905.msg143803#msg143803

we can not prove the guy in btc38 is "sfinder".  as i know you can name youself anyname in btc38.

sfinder is "sfinder" in this forum in this community .


sfinder is a long term contributor to this community including donate his own server to setup a demo wallet for the community.
as i know sfinder is trying to following the spending of BM's 400btc  funding that issued to chinese community in this April

currently only around 2500cny being received by chinese community
see his post  as following

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10842.0

I3中国社区的推广基金(400个比特币,當時值近200萬人民幣)问卷，看看大家是否知道bm给我们的市场发展基金

1)I3中国社区的推广基金终于可以让社区监督其400个bts推广基金的账目了，根据sudo网友的回帖（贴在下面，谢谢ripplexiaoshan 版主提供的宝贵链接），以前查账是需要提交申请的。
沈波先生终于能允许社区自由查账说明了他对社区要求的大力支持

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10912.msg143938#msg143938

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

sfinder告诉我原来的链接是不让大家看的，要看得申请，我看了sudo 6月1号的回复证实了sfinder的说法

Quote from: sudo on June 01, 2014, 01:57:38 am

Quote from: rajarush on May 31, 2014, 06:26:25 pm

他从去年开始每个月从AGS收10个BTC, 如果追踪一下地址你会发现所有的钱都到了一个账号，账号余额上千币
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTwk-e7yzJydDFnQmlkTVlkbWpubnJBbzR2UG5ucnc&usp=sharing#gid=0

最近又从AGS拿了400个BTC, 然后最有意思的是把账目锁起来了不给外人看。所有的I3账目包括每人的工资都是公开的，只有中国区的是锁住的，这得有多黑暗阿，简单的从blockchain看这400个btc进了两个人的大账号，这俩人是谁不得而知。

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

现在中国除了几个大V的微波还有什么宣传么？真正在实实在在做推广的人有谁从沈波哪里拿到过1分钱？Snail你收到过宣传经费么？熊熊你呢？heyD的微波？论坛的版主？麦克猫的翻译？除了引长工那100bts，他的钱都花哪里去了？我觉得英文好的同学应该把这个情况告诉stan。 实在忍不住了上来说两句，大家评评理。

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I3中国社区的推广基金使用情况汇总贴

bm给予大中国区(4/25/2014)400个比特币（请看下面发放凭证當時值近30萬美元200萬人民幣），用与比特股中国区的推广，资金在中国区负责人手上掌握，目前我准备将收集到的使用情况反馈给英文区以及I3

如果你们领取者能发帖汇总，也是对沈波的工作的支持以及对bts推广的支持，而且还可以回击好事者的无聊质疑。
目前不仅国内就连国外社区的朋友都在问为什么中国社区的推广基金使用没有明细账

** “BTS中文区发言人” 中的翻译成员也有收到沈波先生的资助，望你们也协助沈波先生的工作，将收到的明细报给社区**

1)比特股之家收到2494BitCNY





https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTwk-e7yzJydDFnQmlkTVlkbWpubnJBbzR2UG5ucnc&usp=sharing#gid=0


400个比特币发放凭证

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862 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 1NFbNPYhQHeDGLXboXX9VTCHnPe6N9p71E ff02d912608860c157a64feb6f309a15dd1e1922b7710c6fe1de10787e44847e https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0
962 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 13nf5jATZ5ucdZPzDpwJwA1MELvQ7LKdU1 f153deeb39fc49107f9e91b7486742e8ea90782907d89417aa78531eb83130ad https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0
1,062 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 17VaGyg29yxz2zX824ospGasjAQBHdq1do f8b5a21181f140b3dd383af44c07c970b8fc4b738e2fa3b019e507dde8b61dcf https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0
1,162 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 1BAygNmQGYdhi5hfCijUSHQh91Et3tvj4M 0e7f95f760c60854b9ac1eae4746e28808272c0c44b1a83b36d3ca82efb3ebeb https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0


没有sfinder呼吁就没有下面这个公开的链接，你们现在的做法和文化大革命差不多

I3中国社区的推广基金(400个比特币,當時值近200萬人民幣)问卷，看看大家是否知道bm给我们的市场发展基金

1)I3中国社区的推广基金终于可以让社区监督其400个bts推广基金的账目了，根据sudo网友的回帖（贴在下面，谢谢ripplexiaoshan 版主提供的宝贵链接），以前查账是需要提交申请的。
沈波先生终于能允许社区自由查账说明了他对社区要求的大力支持

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10912.msg143938#msg143938

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

sfinder告诉我原来的链接是不让大家看的，要看得申请，我看了sudo 6月1号的回复证实了sfinder的说法

Quote from: sudo on June 01, 2014, 01:57:38 am

Quote from: rajarush on May 31, 2014, 06:26:25 pm

他从去年开始每个月从AGS收10个BTC, 如果追踪一下地址你会发现所有的钱都到了一个账号，账号余额上千币
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTwk-e7yzJydDFnQmlkTVlkbWpubnJBbzR2UG5ucnc&usp=sharing#gid=0

最近又从AGS拿了400个BTC, 然后最有意思的是把账目锁起来了不给外人看。所有的I3账目包括每人的工资都是公开的，只有中国区的是锁住的，这得有多黑暗阿，简单的从blockchain看这400个btc进了两个人的大账号，这俩人是谁不得而知。

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

现在中国除了几个大V的微波还有什么宣传么？真正在实实在在做推广的人有谁从沈波哪里拿到过1分钱？Snail你收到过宣传经费么？熊熊你呢？heyD的微波？论坛的版主？麦克猫的翻译？除了引长工那100bts，他的钱都花哪里去了？我觉得英文好的同学应该把这个情况告诉stan。 实在忍不住了上来说两句，大家评评理。

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Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on November 02, 2014, 11:05:53 pm

另外，3I中国的账本一直是公开的，谁都可以查到。Sfinder自己不去查一下，直接到处发帖发言，造谣沈波贪污公款，这么做的目的是什么呢？

附上资金使用明细。
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

如果有人有疑问，想查账，又不想自己去翻历史帖子，就发个帖子说请把链接发给我，自然有热心人回复你。直接就指向丑闻，这么做未免太龌龊了点。

Quote from: her0 on November 03, 2014, 05:55:56 am

400B不知道算不算香港公司的费用。香港公司到底几人也不清楚，估计一个空壳公司活还是美国3i干的。这里面的帐，以后多半就是糊涂账了。

附上资金使用明细。
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

另外，Sfinder的事正在查，很快就水落石出了。基于目前的情况，大量事实以及证据指向他恶意造谣生事，欺骗中国社区的朋友们。

sfinder告诉我原来的链接是不让大家看的，要看得申请，我看了sudo的回复证实了sfinder的说法

Quote from: rajarush on May 31, 2014, 06:26:25 pm

他从去年开始每个月从AGS收10个BTC, 如果追踪一下地址你会发现所有的钱都到了一个账号，账号余额上千币
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTwk-e7yzJydDFnQmlkTVlkbWpubnJBbzR2UG5ucnc&usp=sharing#gid=0

最近又从AGS拿了400个BTC, 然后最有意思的是把账目锁起来了不给外人看。所有的I3账目包括每人的工资都是公开的，只有中国区的是锁住的，这得有多黑暗阿，简单的从blockchain看这400个btc进了两个人的大账号，这俩人是谁不得而知。

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

现在中国除了几个大V的微波还有什么宣传么？真正在实实在在做推广的人有谁从沈波哪里拿到过1分钱？Snail你收到过宣传经费么？熊熊你呢？heyD的微波？论坛的版主？麦克猫的翻译？除了引长工那100bts，他的钱都花哪里去了？我觉得英文好的同学应该把这个情况告诉stan。 实在忍不住了上来说两句，大家评评理。

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另外，3I中国的账本一直是公开的，谁都可以查到。Sfinder自己不去查一下，直接到处发帖发言，造谣沈波贪污公款，这么做的目的是什么呢？

附上资金使用明细。
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0

如果有人有疑问，想查账，又不想自己去翻历史帖子，就发个帖子说请把链接发给我，自然有热心人回复你。直接就指向丑闻，这么做未免太龌龊了点。

i said he might get sued in states if he publish other ppl's private conservation in the public.
just like we can not publish you naked photo from your phone without your permission

Quote from: coins on November 03, 2014, 02:20:04 am

good try.
1)zhao's group is private group. you can check with owner zhao 150
2)that ppl in the qq group is not linked to sfinder in the forum.
sfinder is long term contributor to BTS world   

Quote from: btswildpig on November 03, 2014, 01:49:20 am

I'm not RippleXiaoShan . If any admin wants , I can confirm where I'm at , Which country I'm at , not just by ip ADDRESS , but also the view from my house .

I suppose RippleXiaoshan is in Canada . Well ,  I'm not .

As for the privacy part , US Supreme Court had established that a person should have "reasonable expectation of pricacy" , so a QQ group advertised
on this forum to joint and only validate three words ----- BTS to enter can not be considered as a private room instead of a open places .

I performed multiple test on this subject -----  Only enter some simple validation like --- BTS , Please , I want in , like your style ....   You can enter this QQ group . So there will be no reasonable expectation of privacy in the eyes of the US legal system . Anything you said on such a QQ group , if it fits a crime , the police or the federal government don't even need a legal warrant to obtain that information and use it against you .

Is that clear ? Don't fight me on this , we both know you don't have the expertise .

So , why are you eager to defend sfinder with privacy in a QQ group when you think sfinder is not linked to the QQ group ?
Gotcha .

Plus another fun fact : claiming a place to be private does not constitute privacy . Zhao150 specifically ask all people around the world to joint the group and no questions asked .

Then again , if that guy in QQ group isn't sfinder , why are you and sfinder go eager to sue RippleXiaoshan for violating privacy ?

i have checked sfinder 's post and his blog and did not find  anything abnormal . and there is not evidence shows sfinder misbehavior in the public. all the proof are stole from private qq message(no public) and the sender has no link to sfinder. 
 

this sfinder sounds more like keyser soze.. we should find him and crush his bones.

there is nothing to do with QQ agreement.  the zhao's group is not open to public so it is private group which should respect ppl's privacy. and sfinder is not linked to that guy in qq group .


please show the evidence from this forum. do not use "he says and she says "

Quote from: coins on November 03, 2014, 12:13:04 am

my question is if zhao150's qq group open for public or just for friends

Quote from: heyD on November 03, 2014, 12:09:38 am

Quote from: coins on November 03, 2014, 12:05:26 am

is the QQ group a public place and everybody free to get in? I heard QQ group need apply to join。

stick to the point. answer my question: which sentense in the user agreement makes you think it that way?

either opening for public or just for the so called friends(as far as i know, the people in that group are not friends, you wanna in, you are in) won't change the fact that everything you say there is NOT privacy, especially when it comes to fud.

if you don't think so, point me to the sentense in the user agreement to correct me.

don't try to divert attention away by your ridiculous attemption to sueing xiaoshan.

we know words, we are not stupid, we are not sfinder's TA.

my question is if zhao150's qq group open for public or just for friends

Quote from: coins on November 03, 2014, 12:05:26 am

is the QQ group a public place and everybody free to get in? I heard QQ group need apply to join。

stick to the point. answer my question: which sentense in the user agreement makes you think it that way?

is there any proof that he talk in the public . if only in private message should not go public. qq is private message just like our cell phone

is he the sfinder  from this forum.?

Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on November 02, 2014, 08:23:50 pm

I like discussion, so I will answer all of your questions.
1/ whether Sfinder is linked to the guys spreading FUD on BTC38 or not, it is a critical issue. Unfortunately, we have proof showing that Sfinder posted same message on this forum and on BTC38, BTW, chatting history in QQ group shows that he admitted himself.

Yes, it's true, I can prove. I am  very very very shocked to his honest.
And I think it's really not good to spent too many time in this thing at this time, please end it fast.
let's focus to the BTS develop.