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Title: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: fuzzy on January 29, 2016, 04:33:03 pm
I would like to see whether the community is supportive of getting a live Q&A with PLAY and MUSE teams to help keep holders informed. Please sign if you wish.  Or do not sign (and note why below) if you feel hangouts with these chains leaders are necessary. 
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: testz on January 29, 2016, 04:39:15 pm
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Post by: onceuponatime on January 29, 2016, 05:03:00 pm
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Post by: iHashFury on January 29, 2016, 05:12:41 pm
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Post by: Bhuz on January 29, 2016, 05:14:44 pm
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Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on January 29, 2016, 06:37:02 pm
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Post by: spartako on January 29, 2016, 06:41:20 pm
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Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: karnal on January 29, 2016, 06:44:46 pm
Absolutely. Sign.
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: CryptoPrometheus on January 29, 2016, 06:48:44 pm
-CP
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: EstefanTT on January 29, 2016, 06:56:26 pm
Yep ;p
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: Ben Mason on January 29, 2016, 07:12:48 pm
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Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: TravelsAsia on January 29, 2016, 08:11:20 pm
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Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: SSGrim on January 29, 2016, 10:10:55 pm
SSgrim .  I would like to hear about it but I can only listen while on the treadmill. Will it be recorded? That's how I get my Dev/Bonus Hangouts fix.
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: emailtooaj on January 29, 2016, 10:14:32 pm
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Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: particlewave on January 29, 2016, 10:29:22 pm
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Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: inarizushi on January 29, 2016, 11:50:24 pm
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Yes I want to hear that
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: fuzzy on January 30, 2016, 06:21:57 pm
Well dang that is a good little group for the thread only being open for a day..!
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: JonnyB on January 30, 2016, 06:26:48 pm
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Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: CryptoPrometheus on February 01, 2016, 01:03:33 am
Bump
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: TravelsAsia on February 01, 2016, 01:16:36 am
Cob is answering the large amount of questions from the community on Monday.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21185.msg276144.html#msg276144

Hopefully this gets the ball rolling for a Hangout Q/A.
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: konelectric on February 01, 2016, 01:49:43 am
Sign: konelectric.
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: pendragon3 on February 01, 2016, 02:36:30 am
Fuzzy, your efforts to foster transparency are commendable, but at this juncture I really don't see much benefit to having a MUSE hangout. A thread already exists for people to pose any questions they want to cob for him to answer or to pass along to the right people: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21185.0.html

If there are some queries that can't be answered right now on the questions thread, then why would cob suddenly be able to answer them on a hangout? Clearly, some aspects of the project are better kept under wraps for the time being for strategic or legal reasons. The only things a hangout would accomplish, IMO, would be to (1) take more time away from getting the MUSE-based platforms ready for launch; and (2) possibly reassure some impatient, nervous nellies that this is not all a scam.

Best to just wait, be patient, and use the question thread. Maybe in a month or two, after details about the platforms built on MUSE are known, a hangout would be useful.

PLAY, however, is a different story... I'd support a hangout with the PLAY developers because I have no clue what's going on there.
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: fuzzy on February 01, 2016, 05:13:09 am
well from what im hearing in the background they have moved to ethereum.  if this is untrue id hope someone from their team would tell us so. 
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: puppies on February 01, 2016, 05:45:12 am
well from what im hearing in the background they have moved to ethereum.  if this is untrue id hope someone from their team would tell us so.

I would be shocked if anyone from their team told you anything.  Ever.
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: fuzzy on February 01, 2016, 05:52:10 am
well from what im hearing in the background they have moved to ethereum.  if this is untrue id hope someone from their team would tell us so.

I would be shocked if anyone from their team told you anything.  Ever.

well if it is true, ethereum just bagged a group of coders who can help them significantly in attempting to steal our tech in a way that doesnt cause any problems with intellectual property. 

but i am not 100% certain. i only heard it through the grapevine.
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: puppies on February 01, 2016, 06:15:40 am
[member=33724]dacplay[/member]  [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] [member=1744]logxing[/member]

I would love an update about what play is planning.  I don't think they should have to do a mumble though.  Especially if none of them feel comfortable speaking english.

If btswildpig is any indication of the play devs opinion of bts, it isn't good.  he seems convinced that BM is a thief.
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: Stan on February 01, 2016, 06:52:01 am
[member=33724]dacplay[/member]  [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] [member=1744]logxing[/member]

I would love an update about what play is planning.  I don't think they should have to do a mumble though.  Especially if none of them feel comfortable speaking english.

If btswildpig is any indication of the play devs opinion of bts, it isn't good.  he seems convinced that BM is a thief.

I assure you that the DACPLAY team is very competent in English.

(https://i.gyazo.com/255954b1d2dc3eeea5124b7619eba125.gif)
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: puppies on February 01, 2016, 07:09:51 am
[member=33724]dacplay[/member]  [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] [member=1744]logxing[/member]

I would love an update about what play is planning.  I don't think they should have to do a mumble though.  Especially if none of them feel comfortable speaking english.

If btswildpig is any indication of the play devs opinion of bts, it isn't good.  he seems convinced that BM is a thief.

I assure you that the DACPLAY team is very competent in English.

(https://i.gyazo.com/255954b1d2dc3eeea5124b7619eba125.gif)

Cool.   A mumble would be great, but at this point I would settle for a forum post or a tweet, or really anything.
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: fuzzy on February 01, 2016, 07:19:01 am
[member=33724]dacplay[/member]  [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] [member=1744]logxing[/member]

I would love an update about what play is planning.  I don't think they should have to do a mumble though.  Especially if none of them feel comfortable speaking english.

If btswildpig is any indication of the play devs opinion of bts, it isn't good.  he seems convinced that BM is a thief.

I assure you that the DACPLAY team is very competent in English.

(https://i.gyazo.com/255954b1d2dc3eeea5124b7619eba125.gif)

Cool.   A mumble would be great, but at this point I would settle for a forum post or a tweet, or really anything.

me too.
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: btswildpig on February 01, 2016, 07:53:26 am
[member=33724]dacplay[/member]  [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] [member=1744]logxing[/member]

I would love an update about what play is planning.  I don't think they should have to do a mumble though.  Especially if none of them feel comfortable speaking english.

If btswildpig is any indication of the play devs opinion of bts, it isn't good.  he seems convinced that BM is a thief.

Regarding the "thief" question , I'm sure you must speak a different set of English than I used to . Everybody knows BM acted in the way that he thought was necessary , and I question his tactics based on how I was educated/experienced, especially in the crypto field, that his tactics are simply not possible to last for a long time  . It's nothing new though , I said it a year ago that dilution is not real money , that's my constant belief and educated guess .  I'm simple reminding this community that there are basic and fundamental principles regarding market . Start-ups don't have "secondary market" as their only income source, no matter how many attempt to get so-called "real-users" , the up and downs is and always will be decided by the secondary market and the capital in it . Because , again , unlike real company , we don't have fixed cost/fixed income department , imaging -----when BM brought 10000 users in by his magical dilution development work  ,they created 100000 USD buy pressure(highly unlikely ) , and then BM or other whale see the huge buy order coming up and sold 300000 USD worth of BTS because they want to pay tax/buy boat/whatever , is this "company" profiting or losing money ? You can't tell , could you ? That's why I said I've always said real users could not drive marketcap , because it doesn't work that way with market cap .

Sometimes I'm just too tired to repeat some basic and simple princicple regarding second market that everybody should've known a long time ago . Call me fudster for telling the common sense for all I care  :P . 


And second of all , I'm just a community member regarding DACPLAY now . I have no role that could branded me their "indication" .

Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: btswildpig on February 01, 2016, 08:04:51 am
well from what im hearing in the background they have moved to ethereum.  if this is untrue id hope someone from their team would tell us so.

I would be shocked if anyone from their team told you anything.  Ever.

well if it is true, ethereum just bagged a group of coders who can help them significantly in attempting to steal our tech in a way that doesnt cause any problems with intellectual property. 

but i am not 100% certain. i only heard it through the grapevine.

I don't really understand . Is there  intellectual property stuff under the current licence of Graphene ? Last time I heard they gave up that demand .
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: puppies on February 01, 2016, 08:20:34 am
[member=33724]dacplay[/member]  [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] [member=1744]logxing[/member]

I would love an update about what play is planning.  I don't think they should have to do a mumble though.  Especially if none of them feel comfortable speaking english.

If btswildpig is any indication of the play devs opinion of bts, it isn't good.  he seems convinced that BM is a thief.

Regarding the "thief" question , I'm sure you must speak a different set of English than I used to . Everybody knows BM acted in the way that he thought was necessary , and I question his tactics based on how I was educated/experienced, especially in the crypto field, that his tactics are simply not possible to last for a long time  . It's nothing new though , I said it a year ago that dilution is not real money , that's my constant belief and educated guess .  I'm simple reminding this community that there are basic and fundamental principles regarding market . Start-ups don't have "secondary market" as their only income source, no matter how many attempt to get so-called "real-users" , the up and downs is and always will be decided by the secondary market and the capital in it . Because , again , unlike real company , we don't have fixed cost/fixed income department , imaging -----when BM brought 10000 users in by his magical dilution development work  ,they created 100000 USD buy pressure(highly unlikely ) , and then BM or other whale see the huge buy order coming up and sold 300000 USD worth of BTS because they want to pay tax/buy boat/whatever , is this "company" profiting or losing money ? You can't tell , could you ? That's why I said I've always said real users could not drive marketcap , because it doesn't work that way with market cap .

Sometimes I'm just too tired to repeat some basic and simple princicple regarding second market that everybody should've known a long time ago . Call me fudster for telling the common sense for all I care  :P . 


And second of all , I'm just a community member regarding DACPLAY now . I have no role that could branded me their "indication" .

Thanks for clarifying btswildpig.  I really was not trying to talk trash.  I have gotten the impression that you believe that BM has set up bitshares as his personal piggy bank to be raided whenever he feels like it.  To me that would be a thief. 

If instead you believe that BM has made mistakes that have hurt bitshares, but that he was not trying to rip us off then I was mistaken.

I apologize for that.

As far as not knowing if you were still, or ever involved in dacplay, the whole point of my comment was that none of us know anything about dacplay.  I am still a delegate on the dacplay chain.  Only missed 12 blocks too.  I have no idea what is going on with it though.  Should I still be spending that $20 a month to keep the server up?  I have no problem paying $20 a month to help support dacplay til the end of time, as long as it is needed and its going somewhere. 

Anyways thanks for responding, and I am sorry if I mis-characterized your opinion of BM.

Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: btswildpig on February 01, 2016, 08:32:23 am
[member=33724]dacplay[/member]  [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] [member=1744]logxing[/member]

I would love an update about what play is planning.  I don't think they should have to do a mumble though.  Especially if none of them feel comfortable speaking english.

If btswildpig is any indication of the play devs opinion of bts, it isn't good.  he seems convinced that BM is a thief.

Regarding the "thief" question , I'm sure you must speak a different set of English than I used to . Everybody knows BM acted in the way that he thought was necessary , and I question his tactics based on how I was educated/experienced, especially in the crypto field, that his tactics are simply not possible to last for a long time  . It's nothing new though , I said it a year ago that dilution is not real money , that's my constant belief and educated guess .  I'm simple reminding this community that there are basic and fundamental principles regarding market . Start-ups don't have "secondary market" as their only income source, no matter how many attempt to get so-called "real-users" , the up and downs is and always will be decided by the secondary market and the capital in it . Because , again , unlike real company , we don't have fixed cost/fixed income department , imaging -----when BM brought 10000 users in by his magical dilution development work  ,they created 100000 USD buy pressure(highly unlikely ) , and then BM or other whale see the huge buy order coming up and sold 300000 USD worth of BTS because they want to pay tax/buy boat/whatever , is this "company" profiting or losing money ? You can't tell , could you ? That's why I said I've always said real users could not drive marketcap , because it doesn't work that way with market cap .

Sometimes I'm just too tired to repeat some basic and simple princicple regarding second market that everybody should've known a long time ago . Call me fudster for telling the common sense for all I care  :P . 


And second of all , I'm just a community member regarding DACPLAY now . I have no role that could branded me their "indication" .

Thanks for clarifying btswildpig.  I really was not trying to talk trash.  I have gotten the impression that you believe that BM has set up bitshares as his personal piggy bank to be raided whenever he feels like it.  To me that would be a thief. 

If instead you believe that BM has made mistakes that have hurt bitshares, but that he was not trying to rip us off then I was mistaken.

I apologize for that.

As far as not knowing if you were still, or ever involved in dacplay, the whole point of my comment was that none of us know anything about dacplay.  I am still a delegate on the dacplay chain.  Only missed 12 blocks too.  I have no idea what is going on with it though.  Should I still be spending that $20 a month to keep the server up?  I have no problem paying $20 a month to help support dacplay til the end of time, as long as it is needed and its going somewhere. 

Anyways thanks for responding, and I am sorry if I mis-characterized your opinion of BM.


https://github.com/bitsuperlab (https://github.com/bitsuperlab)   

I don't know much about programming . But it seems to me they've been working on the old-code and graphene code at the same time .
And they've just won the Shanghai blockchain hackaton with Graphene based random number generator (10000USD reward) . 

Hmm....that's the news on January,2016.. Maybe everybody have forgotten that .
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: twitter on February 01, 2016, 01:19:25 pm
[member=33724]dacplay[/member]  [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] [member=1744]logxing[/member]

I would love an update about what play is planning.  I don't think they should have to do a mumble though.  Especially if none of them feel comfortable speaking english.

If btswildpig is any indication of the play devs opinion of bts, it isn't good.  he seems convinced that BM is a thief.

Regarding the "thief" question , I'm sure you must speak a different set of English than I used to . Everybody knows BM acted in the way that he thought was necessary , and I question his tactics based on how I was educated/experienced, especially in the crypto field, that his tactics are simply not possible to last for a long time  . It's nothing new though , I said it a year ago that dilution is not real money , that's my constant belief and educated guess .  I'm simple reminding this community that there are basic and fundamental principles regarding market . Start-ups don't have "secondary market" as their only income source, no matter how many attempt to get so-called "real-users" , the up and downs is and always will be decided by the secondary market and the capital in it . Because , again , unlike real company , we don't have fixed cost/fixed income department , imaging -----when BM brought 10000 users in by his magical dilution development work  ,they created 100000 USD buy pressure(highly unlikely ) , and then BM or other whale see the huge buy order coming up and sold 300000 USD worth of BTS because they want to pay tax/buy boat/whatever , is this "company" profiting or losing money ? You can't tell , could you ? That's why I said I've always said real users could not drive marketcap , because it doesn't work that way with market cap .

Sometimes I'm just too tired to repeat some basic and simple princicple regarding second market that everybody should've known a long time ago . Call me fudster for telling the common sense for all I care 


And second of all , I'm just a community member regarding DACPLAY now . I have no role that could branded me their "indication" .

Thanks for clarifying btswildpig.  I really was not trying to talk trash.  I have gotten the impression that you believe that BM has set up bitshares as his personal piggy bank to be raided whenever he feels like it.  To me that would be a thief. 

If instead you believe that BM has made mistakes that have hurt bitshares, but that he was not trying to rip us off then I was mistaken.

I apologize for that.

As far as not knowing if you were still, or ever involved in dacplay, the whole point of my comment was that none of us know anything about dacplay.  I am still a delegate on the dacplay chain.  Only missed 12 blocks too.  I have no idea what is going on with it though.  Should I still be spending that $20 a month to keep the server up?  I have no problem paying $20 a month to help support dacplay til the end of time, as long as it is needed and its going somewhere. 

Anyways thanks for responding, and I am sorry if I mis-characterized your opinion of BM.


https://github.com/bitsuperlab (https://github.com/bitsuperlab)   

I don't know much about programming . But it seems to me they've been working on the old-code and graphene code at the same time .
And they've just won the Shanghai blockchain hackaton with Graphene based random number generator (10000USD reward) . 

Hmm....that's the news on January,2016.. Maybe everybody have forgotten that .
That was eth based blockchain hackathon . Isn't that?(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/01/fd4b1658b795a747877dea2a72e5b294.jpg)
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: twitter on February 01, 2016, 01:22:11 pm
[member=33724]dacplay[/member]  [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] [member=1744]logxing[/member]

I would love an update about what play is planning.  I don't think they should have to do a mumble though.  Especially if none of them feel comfortable speaking english.

If btswildpig is any indication of the play devs opinion of bts, it isn't good.  he seems convinced that BM is a thief.

Regarding the "thief" question , I'm sure you must speak a different set of English than I used to . Everybody knows BM acted in the way that he thought was necessary , and I question his tactics based on how I was educated/experienced, especially in the crypto field, that his tactics are simply not possible to last for a long time  . It's nothing new though , I said it a year ago that dilution is not real money , that's my constant belief and educated guess .  I'm simple reminding this community that there are basic and fundamental principles regarding market . Start-ups don't have "secondary market" as their only income source, no matter how many attempt to get so-called "real-users" , the up and downs is and always will be decided by the secondary market and the capital in it . Because , again , unlike real company , we don't have fixed cost/fixed income department , imaging -----when BM brought 10000 users in by his magical dilution development work  ,they created 100000 USD buy pressure(highly unlikely ) , and then BM or other whale see the huge buy order coming up and sold 300000 USD worth of BTS because they want to pay tax/buy boat/whatever , is this "company" profiting or losing money ? You can't tell , could you ? That's why I said I've always said real users could not drive marketcap , because it doesn't work that way with market cap .

Sometimes I'm just too tired to repeat some basic and simple princicple regarding second market that everybody should've known a long time ago . Call me fudster for telling the common sense for all I care 


And second of all , I'm just a community member regarding DACPLAY now . I have no role that could branded me their "indication" .

Thanks for clarifying btswildpig.  I really was not trying to talk trash.  I have gotten the impression that you believe that BM has set up bitshares as his personal piggy bank to be raided whenever he feels like it.  To me that would be a thief. 

If instead you believe that BM has made mistakes that have hurt bitshares, but that he was not trying to rip us off then I was mistaken.

I apologize for that.

As far as not knowing if you were still, or ever involved in dacplay, the whole point of my comment was that none of us know anything about dacplay.  I am still a delegate on the dacplay chain.  Only missed 12 blocks too.  I have no idea what is going on with it though.  Should I still be spending that $20 a month to keep the server up?  I have no problem paying $20 a month to help support dacplay til the end of time, as long as it is needed and its going somewhere. 

Anyways thanks for responding, and I am sorry if I mis-characterized your opinion of BM.


https://github.com/bitsuperlab (https://github.com/bitsuperlab)   

I don't know much about programming . But it seems to me they've been working on the old-code and graphene code at the same time .
And they've just won the Shanghai blockchain hackaton with Graphene based random number generator (10000USD reward) . 

Hmm....that's the news on January,2016.. Maybe everybody have forgotten that .
That was eth based blockchain hackathon . Isn't that?(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/01/fd4b1658b795a747877dea2a72e5b294.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/01/b56ae4dbdac26c204e23c3d089b93c66.jpg)

DACPLAY won ether hackathon
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: xeroc on February 01, 2016, 02:01:04 pm
For those that don't know... Graphene does NOT have a random number generator. So they may very well just be prototyping on ethereum
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: btswildpig on February 01, 2016, 02:35:30 pm
For those that don't know... Graphene does NOT have a random number generator. So they may very well just be prototyping on ethereum

http://www.blockchainlabs.org/hackathon/view.php
No.8 there is a intro of the platform , and there is a github address https://github.com/clar/graphene

maybe it's may bad english . They made a "random number generator "  that use graphene as the platform , not "a system based on Graphene's random number generator"

This was the news on BTC38 http://www.btc38.com/btc/altgeneral/9230.html (http://www.btc38.com/btc/altgeneral/9230.html)  I think automatic translation could get the rough idea , or not , because there is several english word there you might be familiar with ...
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: btswildpig on February 01, 2016, 02:52:50 pm
[member=33724]dacplay[/member]  [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] [member=1744]logxing[/member]

I would love an update about what play is planning.  I don't think they should have to do a mumble though.  Especially if none of them feel comfortable speaking english.

If btswildpig is any indication of the play devs opinion of bts, it isn't good.  he seems convinced that BM is a thief.

Regarding the "thief" question , I'm sure you must speak a different set of English than I used to . Everybody knows BM acted in the way that he thought was necessary , and I question his tactics based on how I was educated/experienced, especially in the crypto field, that his tactics are simply not possible to last for a long time  . It's nothing new though , I said it a year ago that dilution is not real money , that's my constant belief and educated guess .  I'm simple reminding this community that there are basic and fundamental principles regarding market . Start-ups don't have "secondary market" as their only income source, no matter how many attempt to get so-called "real-users" , the up and downs is and always will be decided by the secondary market and the capital in it . Because , again , unlike real company , we don't have fixed cost/fixed income department , imaging -----when BM brought 10000 users in by his magical dilution development work  ,they created 100000 USD buy pressure(highly unlikely ) , and then BM or other whale see the huge buy order coming up and sold 300000 USD worth of BTS because they want to pay tax/buy boat/whatever , is this "company" profiting or losing money ? You can't tell , could you ? That's why I said I've always said real users could not drive marketcap , because it doesn't work that way with market cap .

Sometimes I'm just too tired to repeat some basic and simple princicple regarding second market that everybody should've known a long time ago . Call me fudster for telling the common sense for all I care 


And second of all , I'm just a community member regarding DACPLAY now . I have no role that could branded me their "indication" .

Thanks for clarifying btswildpig.  I really was not trying to talk trash.  I have gotten the impression that you believe that BM has set up bitshares as his personal piggy bank to be raided whenever he feels like it.  To me that would be a thief. 

If instead you believe that BM has made mistakes that have hurt bitshares, but that he was not trying to rip us off then I was mistaken.

I apologize for that.

As far as not knowing if you were still, or ever involved in dacplay, the whole point of my comment was that none of us know anything about dacplay.  I am still a delegate on the dacplay chain.  Only missed 12 blocks too.  I have no idea what is going on with it though.  Should I still be spending that $20 a month to keep the server up?  I have no problem paying $20 a month to help support dacplay til the end of time, as long as it is needed and its going somewhere. 

Anyways thanks for responding, and I am sorry if I mis-characterized your opinion of BM.


https://github.com/bitsuperlab (https://github.com/bitsuperlab)   

I don't know much about programming . But it seems to me they've been working on the old-code and graphene code at the same time .
And they've just won the Shanghai blockchain hackaton with Graphene based random number generator (10000USD reward) . 

Hmm....that's the news on January,2016.. Maybe everybody have forgotten that .
That was eth based blockchain hackathon . Isn't that?

I don't think that's the case since there was a project based on Factom also won the prize . Unless Factom is another name of Ethereum .....
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: fuzzy on February 01, 2016, 04:06:17 pm
Hmm....that's the news on January,2016.. Maybe everybody have forgotten that .

Yes people forget easily.  And things change easily.  And when there is basically no response from people asking questions (I know I have reached out regarding hangouts on many occasions---and I am sure you are busy, but it is impossible to blame people for speculating when there are very few responses when questions are asked).  It is just another kind of pr blunder. 

So I guess I will invite you guys to join us for an hour someday and chat with the community.  If you guys want to join and explain to the community some of the stuff going on behind the scenes it would potentially not only be helpful to the community---but the PLAY project too. 

So was there any press from this event where the graphene based rng was recognized as part of bitshares' technology?  Or was it labeled as something that is part of ethereum?  It is only right to give credit to the people who paid for graphene to be built...and those who actually built it (your coders among them since they seemed to have added functionality). 
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: btswildpig on February 01, 2016, 04:45:30 pm
Hmm....that's the news on January,2016.. Maybe everybody have forgotten that .

Yes people forget easily.  And things change easily.  And when there is basically no response from people asking questions (I know I have reached out regarding hangouts on many occasions---and I am sure you are busy, but it is impossible to blame people for speculating when there are very few responses when questions are asked).  It is just another kind of pr blunder. 

So I guess I will invite you guys to join us for an hour someday and chat with the community.  If you guys want to join and explain to the community some of the stuff going on behind the scenes it would potentially not only be helpful to the community---but the PLAY project too. 

So was there any press from this event where the graphene based rng was recognized as part of bitshares' technology?  Or was it labeled as something that is part of ethereum?  It is only right to give credit to the people who paid for graphene to be built...and those who actually built it (your coders among them since they seemed to have added functionality).

This was the news on BTC38 http://www.btc38.com/btc/altgeneral/9230.html  that could answer all your question even with google translation .
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: fuzzy on February 01, 2016, 10:12:15 pm
Hmm....that's the news on January,2016.. Maybe everybody have forgotten that .

Yes people forget easily.  And things change easily.  And when there is basically no response from people asking questions (I know I have reached out regarding hangouts on many occasions---and I am sure you are busy, but it is impossible to blame people for speculating when there are very few responses when questions are asked).  It is just another kind of pr blunder. 

So I guess I will invite you guys to join us for an hour someday and chat with the community.  If you guys want to join and explain to the community some of the stuff going on behind the scenes it would potentially not only be helpful to the community---but the PLAY project too. 

So was there any press from this event where the graphene based rng was recognized as part of bitshares' technology?  Or was it labeled as something that is part of ethereum?  It is only right to give credit to the people who paid for graphene to be built...and those who actually built it (your coders among them since they seemed to have added functionality).

This was the news on BTC38 http://www.btc38.com/btc/altgeneral/9230.html  that could answer all your question even with google translation .

this certainly helps, but can you honestly say that the community shouldnt have been concerned?  dont get me wrong and please dont this this is an attack. im simply saying it isnt easy to get updates from the people many here donated to. like ive said multiples times...this was brought up to me by other community members. 

Dacplay is part of the bitshares family.  when you do t hear from family in a long time and a couple friends  ask if your family is ok...do you not worry about them?
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: TravelsAsia on February 01, 2016, 11:47:58 pm
 +5% Fuzzy. I've already spent enough mental capital expressing my frustration with Peertracks (thanks Cob for stepping up) to even begin expressing how disappointed I am with how Play communicates with investors. Have them take a look at a project like Augur and then come back to me that this is acceptable. Amazing how fast communication drops when they have the investor money.

Fuzzy, keep doing your thing.
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: konelectric on February 02, 2016, 12:46:55 am
+5% Fuzzy. I've already spent enough mental capital expressing my frustration with Peertracks (thanks Cob for stepping up) to even begin expressing how disappointed I am with how Play communicates with investors. Have them take a look at a project like Augur and then come back to me that this is acceptable. Amazing how fast communication drops when they have the investor money.

Fuzzy, keep doing your thing.


 +5% I'm still waiting for some kind of reply here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16565.15.html
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: GChicken on February 02, 2016, 12:15:28 pm
bit late but signing the partition anyway, would be great to hear some news from PLAY and MUSE
Title: Re: PLAY & MUSE Hangout/Q&A (Petition--Sign if interested)
Post by: betax on February 03, 2016, 11:14:33 am
me