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Other => Graveyard => Keyhotee => Topic started by: 520Bit on January 20, 2014, 02:44:33 pm

Title: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 20, 2014, 02:44:33 pm
I bought two Keyhotee IDs last year, and only registered one, I want to sell another one(never registered in Keyhotee client). If you are interested, let me know.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID here?
Post by: vegolino on January 21, 2014, 04:28:06 pm
Hi,
I would be interested to find out more. Buying  would depend on the price.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID here?
Post by: rysgc on January 21, 2014, 04:50:32 pm
Isn't it tied to your brain wallet?
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID here?
Post by: bytemaster on January 22, 2014, 12:27:18 am
Isn't it tied to your brain wallet?

If they have not registered it then the public key is still unset so in theory they could transfer it.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID here?
Post by: rysgc on January 22, 2014, 12:59:20 am
Ah yeah that's right
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID here?
Post by: bg002h on January 22, 2014, 04:27:17 am
What is the handle? I don't want something silly sounding...
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID here?
Post by: soniq on January 22, 2014, 07:03:36 am
Im interested
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID here?
Post by: qianqiu on January 22, 2014, 11:05:13 am
please give you price ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID here?
Post by: johncitizen on January 22, 2014, 11:26:37 am
Im interested
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 23, 2014, 06:43:01 am
I would sell the Keyhotee ID starting from 30PTS, the higher bids will get it. Or you can choose to mine after formal release. I will reserve this for those who are really supporting BTS project development.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID here?
Post by: soniq on January 23, 2014, 07:51:52 am
What is the Keyhotee name/handle?
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 23, 2014, 09:13:19 am
What is the Keyhotee name/handle?

The Keyhotee ID name is BMW - The famous automotive brand. I believe it is worth.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 23, 2014, 09:18:23 am
As the developer suggested that the Keyhotee ID should be registered before genesis block. So I will give a dead line of this selling. If nobody want to buy this ID, I will register it myself in Jan 31, 2014. After that you can also try to mine the ID, but I am not sure how hard it will be.


One question, I bought a Keyhotee ID from III last year and never registered. Is it possible to register it anytime or do I have to register before the genesis block created?

You should register it before genesis block created and share you public key. Probably before genesis block creation we will get additional notification from 3I and better tools to check our Founder IDs.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: johncitizen on January 23, 2014, 04:23:01 pm
Do the AGS come with the i.d?
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: oco101 on January 23, 2014, 06:30:47 pm
Do the AGS come with the i.d?

Unless the seller give you the private key of the PTS wallet, that he used to make the donation for Keyhotee, you can't have the AGS.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: vegolino on January 23, 2014, 10:19:16 pm
So how do we proceed? Shall we make an offer?
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 24, 2014, 08:49:18 am
Do the AGS come with the i.d?

Unless the seller give you the private key of the PTS wallet, that he used to make the donation for Keyhotee, you can't have the AGS.

If you want the AGS, I would sell by 100PTS and send you the private key. 30PTS or more is only for the ID. If anybody really want to buy the Keyhotee ID, post here, I will leave a PTS address for you to send me the PTS. I will provide you the related information(founder PTS address) to register the ID after at least one confirmation. Then you can choose your brain password to register it.

Why do I sell 100PTS by including the AGS? Because we don't know how many founders have been invested the Keyhotee ID so far, let say, if there are only 1000 investors did invest the Keyhotee ID, then one investor will claim about 10/1000*10000 AGS= 100 AGS. If we know the exact amount of Keyhotee ID investors, then we can calculate the AGS precisely.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: johncitizen on January 24, 2014, 10:02:46 am
Okay sounds good. Who can escrow this? Do you accept BTC or only PTS?

Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 24, 2014, 11:09:58 am
Okay sounds good. Who can escrow this? Do you accept BTC or only PTS?

30PTS or 0.5BTC without AGS.
100PTS or 1.5BTC with AGS.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: johncitizen on January 24, 2014, 11:50:50 am
Okay sounds good. Who can escrow this? Do you accept BTC or only PTS?

30PTS or 0.5BTC without AGS.
100PTS or 1.5BTC with AGS.

1.5 BTC unless someone outbids. Can donschoe escrow?

Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 24, 2014, 12:11:54 pm
Okay sounds good. Who can escrow this? Do you accept BTC or only PTS?

30PTS or 0.5BTC without AGS.
100PTS or 1.5BTC with AGS.

1.5 BTC unless someone outbids. Can donschoe escrow?

If you choose to buy with AGS, then you need to trust me because when I provide you the private key, myself also know the private key, in this case, you do not need an escrow, you have to trust me. If you only want to buy the ID, then you can choose an escrow. But I think trust is the best way to make the deal, we don't want to make the deal much more complicated.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: vegolino on January 24, 2014, 06:34:56 pm
I would be happy to send you 30 PTS.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 25, 2014, 04:11:10 am
I would be happy to send you 30 PTS.

Send your PTS to address PguKYpq44PVdPGtpovN5iN4fGeERuCbn74, I will send you a PM after at least one confirmation of your PTS with the ID register information.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: johncitizen on January 25, 2014, 07:53:29 am
Okay sounds good. Who can escrow this? Do you accept BTC or only PTS?

30PTS or 0.5BTC without AGS.
100PTS or 1.5BTC with AGS.

1.5 BTC unless someone outbids. Can donschoe escrow?

If you choose to buy with AGS, then you need to trust me because when I provide you the private key, myself also know the private key, in this case, you do not need an escrow, you have to trust me. If you only want to buy the ID, then you can choose an escrow. But I think trust is the best way to make the deal, we don't want to make the deal much more complicated.

How many PTS wallets do you have? Would it not be the same wallet you used for your other i.d?
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 25, 2014, 12:24:30 pm
Who has sent me 30PTS just now? Post the PTS address which you sent, and the transaction ID, I will let you sign it to make sure  you are the owner of this PTS address, then I can provide you the Keyhotee register information.

After you post your PTS address here, I will send you a PM to let you sign the address.

Make sure you have read this thread https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1962.0 before you start to register the Keyhotee ID.

Download Keyhotee 0.5.2 here: http://invictus.io/keyhotee.php
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: vegolino on January 25, 2014, 12:51:18 pm
Hi I sent it and here are details:

Transaction ID: 77c4e746ff11ceebb70fadfb38893e5d13b789e54dc2e00b71922933f40056ca
wallet:PY91fGxiPmgw582uqqCZW8emgnQCVRkT5X
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: johncitizen on January 25, 2014, 01:05:08 pm
Thought we were bidding mate? I was set for 2.5 BTC on this...

I will get more AGS.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 25, 2014, 01:06:43 pm
Thought we were bidding mate? I was set for 2.5 BTC on this...

I will get more AGS.

When did you set 2.5 BTC?
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: johncitizen on January 25, 2014, 01:10:33 pm
Thought we were bidding mate? I was set for 2.5 BTC on this...

I will get more AGS.

When did you set 2.5 BTC?

That was my personal limit as I thought we were bidding, + AGS wallet.

Its done now.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 25, 2014, 01:14:34 pm
Thought we were bidding mate? I was set for 2.5 BTC on this...

I will get more AGS.

When did you set 2.5 BTC?

That was my personal limit as I thought we were bidding, + AGS wallet.

Its done now.

You have to be clear that there is no AGS wallet and AGS is not transferable. If you want the AGS, you have to wait until the BTS launch successfully. I suggest you make sure you really understand what AGS is, then we can make the deal, I don't want any issues in the future.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: vegolino on January 25, 2014, 01:22:20 pm
Hi,
I am newbie and would appreciate some assistance how to sign a message and PM the signature.

Thanks
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: johncitizen on January 25, 2014, 01:27:20 pm
Thought we were bidding mate? I was set for 2.5 BTC on this...

I will get more AGS.

When did you set 2.5 BTC?

That was my personal limit as I thought we were bidding, + AGS wallet.

Its done now.

You have to be clear that there is no AGS wallet and AGS is not transferable. If you want the AGS, you have to wait until the BTS launch successfully. I suggest you make sure you really understand what AGS is, then we can make the deal, I don't want any issues in the future.

Haha, no there is a misunderstanding- I fully understand the concept of AGS. I originally thought you would sell the ID with AGS (1.5BTC) by transferring private keys, or just I.D (0.5BTC).

I will use these BTC to bid on daily AGS
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 25, 2014, 01:39:10 pm
Hi,
I am newbie and would appreciate some assistance how to sign a message and PM the signature.

Thanks

Here is an instruction of how to sign a bitcoin address: https://bitcoinsand.com/en/help#howtosign

Sign PTS address is similar. If you can't sign it, do not worry, I will wait until you know how to do it.

BTW, do you know how to register the Keyhotee ID? Because I can't refund your PTS after I provide you the Keyhotee register information.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: vegolino on January 25, 2014, 02:28:07 pm
Thank you zhrmghgsc.
I do not know how to register Keyhotee ID yet, but will figure it out.
 My understanding is that Mac version is not ready yet so I may have to wait. 
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 25, 2014, 02:30:45 pm
Thank you zhrmghgsc.
I do not know how to register Keyhotee ID yet, but will figure it out.
 My understanding is that Mac version is not ready yet so I may have to wait.

You have to register the Keyhotee ID before the genesis block, 3I need your public key to be shown here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1983.0

I suggest you to do it now!
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 25, 2014, 02:35:35 pm
I have completed the deal with aloha.

@aloha, my Keyhotee public key is 6sMzKY4sBBQX8hD9KV4bTVYWxYec8d15zPVZmNaoD2rxUotaWM, send me an email after you register the ID successfully so that I can know you do make it. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: vegolino on January 25, 2014, 04:08:57 pm
Hi zhrmghgsc,

Can you please let me know if you have received Keyhotee message from me.
On this website http://invictus-innovations.com/founder-sign-up/  original email is required, please advise.

Thanks
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: 520Bit on January 25, 2014, 11:42:31 pm
Hi zhrmghgsc,

Can you please let me know if you have received Keyhotee message from me.
On this website http://invictus-innovations.com/founder-sign-up/  original email is required, please advise.

Thanks

I have sent you a PM with the original email. I think you can report a ticket to 3I to change the original email. Explain to them what the issue you have, they should help you with it.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: vegolino on January 25, 2014, 11:55:23 pm
Thank you zhrmghgsc
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: JakeThePanda on January 28, 2014, 08:55:31 pm
Anyone else selling founder IDs?
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: joaoha on February 05, 2014, 10:48:49 am
Hi yes
I'm selling one of my founder id's to register in the Genesis Block.

ID : my.private.id

Highest bidder wins. Price starts at 50 PTS. Auction end on Feb 20th. Or if genesis block gets pushed forward.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: johncitizen on February 05, 2014, 12:52:23 pm
Hi yes
I'm selling one of my founder id's to register in the Genesis Block.

ID : my.private.id

Highest bidder wins. Price starts at 50 PTS. Auction end on Feb 20th. Or if genesis block gets pushed forward.

Escrow? Tell us more
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: joaoha on February 05, 2014, 08:10:35 pm
Simple,
I'm willing to sell the id and I'll give you all the details to guarantee you get a full transfer.
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: johncitizen on February 06, 2014, 04:42:52 am
Simple,
I'm willing to sell the id and I'll give you all the details to guarantee you get a full transfer.


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Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: joaoha on February 06, 2014, 08:27:32 am
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Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: JakeThePanda on February 06, 2014, 07:41:49 pm
I still don't know much about Keyhotee.  What does having a founder ID do for me?
Title: Re: Can I sell one Keyhotee ID(BMW) here?
Post by: CLains on February 07, 2014, 02:27:23 pm
I still don't know much about Keyhotee.  What does having a founder ID do for me?

It gives you perks like not having to mine your ID and having a little trophy next to your name. It was just a way to allow people who believed in Invictus and Keyhotee in particular to invest early. When Keyhotee is released you can mine your own ID for free, so long as the name is not taken.

If you want to invest, I advise you to buy AngelShares which will give you 1:1 stake in Bitshares X and at least 10% in all other Bitshares released by Invictus.