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General Discussion / Re: Does anyone has an opinion to Lisk?
« on: March 27, 2016, 09:02:10 am »
Liskers, you need to generate your lisk ICO passphrase and back it up before the 4th of April ;)

https://blog.lisk.io/how-to-generate-your-lisk-ico-passphrase-62536fce5edc#.e4wk5n73v

PD : I do like the simple but elegant GUI of the testnet. Would it be a lot of work to reach that kind of user-frendly display ?
Maybe it's over simplistic but isn't it just some tweaking on a couple of CSS files ?
I'm a big fan of what we have right now but it's a little scary for anyone who is not a trader and used to these black trading interface.

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General Discussion / Re: Ethereum price discussion
« on: March 25, 2016, 09:23:11 pm »
It's a bit off topic but I still ask this question here because most of the traders of this community watch this thread.

You (traders) probably saw my thread on the creation of a weighted index of the top 20 cryptocurrencies by market capitalisation. It's almost done, it shouldn't be long now for me to officialize the web site and create the smartcoin.

If you didn't see the thread, here it is : https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21999.30.html

The force settlement offset is by default at 1%, @Empirical1.2  tell me this :

"If I was too guess, I would think you might have more people willing to go long than short, so you would probably want to offset that with settings that are more favourable for shorters. A force settlement offset of 5% should be more positive for people shorting the index as they would be less worried that they are going to be force settled against unexpectedly. I think, I'm not sure about that though."

Which make a lot of sense ! Any of you have some thought about it or see another % fit better ???

Please consider answer on the original thread ( https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21999.30.html ) so it doesn't disturb the conversation on the bts price, thanks guys ;p

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: March 25, 2016, 09:22:59 pm »
It's a bit off topic but I still ask this question here because most of the traders of this community watch this thread.

You (traders) probably saw my thread on the creation of a weighted index of the top 20 cryptocurrencies by market capitalisation. It's almost done, it shouldn't be long now for me to officialize the web site and create the smartcoin.

If you didn't see the thread, here it is : https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21999.30.html

The force settlement offset is by default at 1%, @Empirical1.2  tell me this :

"If I was too guess, I would think you might have more people willing to go long than short, so you would probably want to offset that with settings that are more favourable for shorters. A force settlement offset of 5% should be more positive for people shorting the index as they would be less worried that they are going to be force settled against unexpectedly. I think, I'm not sure about that though."

Which make a lot of sense ! Any of you have some thought about it or see another % fit better ???

Please consider answer on the original thread ( https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21999.30.html ) so it doesn't disturb the conversation on the bts price, thanks guys ;p

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I don't understand the difference between permissions and flags, it seems the same to me ...
If you have permissions enabled you MAY use those features but don't need to do so ..
You can ACTUALLY enable a feature by enabling the corresponding FLAG!

Note, that, once you have disabled a PERMISSION!! you cannot re-enable it. It is like an indefinite opt-out!

Thanks for the explanation, make more sense now.

I was going to enable these 3 permissions :

# Enable market fee
# Allow issuer to force a global settling
# Allow witnesses to provide feeds

I'm not sure if I'm missing something important. Do you know a place where I can read more info about these permissions ?

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I'm still wondering about the default % of these two, is that seem ok for the index ?

Force settlement offset   1%
Max force settle vol   20%

I'm now wondering about the permission, I would choose these ones :

Enable market fee
Allow issuer to force a global settling
Allow witnesses to provide feeds

I don't understand the difference between permissions and flags, it seems the same to me ...

I'm almost done the website, it has been a crazy week with very little sleep and a lot of <#/'=var"@! ... I just need some precision to these grey areas and I will be ready to go live with the web site and actually create the index on the DEX.

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A few month ago, there was a debate on the "PERCENT OFFSET OF FORCED SETTLEMENTS" and the "MAX FORCE SETTLE VOL" for BitUSD and other smartcoins. I think TCNY have done it differently that BitUSD.

They are set by default that way  :

Force settlement offset   1%
Max force settle vol   20%

Do someone have an opinion on wich kind of values would fit better to an index ?

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Wouldn't a Top 5 or 10 make more sense than 20?

At least today, we can find ~10 interesting, original, promising crypto projects.

Agree with you, at this moment 10 will be better.

It depends on how your index is weighted. 10 seems a little to small to me, lots of good coins from 10 to 20. Obviously, they don't have the same weight that the top ones.


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You can't fake volume very easily/for very long when you're paying 0.2% per trade can you?

except you are the exchange owner... so the fees come back to you...

That's why I first consider the MC, because it's the only thing you can't fake. The only way to manipulate the MC is by pouring your money in the coin ;p

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Holy crap! The War of Indexes has started. Strip your rockets gentlemen, aim, charge!
Lol ;p


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There is plenty of ways to weight an index. In the crypto currencies world, there will be probably, in the future, lots of indexes.

For now, I have a good one running since july 2015 and giving an acurate information about the evolution of the crypto currencies in a global way vs fiat money. I just have to make the economical input information scripts a little more reliable and create the smartcoin. It probbaly can be done in a matter of days.

I made this thread to brainstorm with this community on the index before creating it. When I see that 21xhipster rushed into creating some sort of Bit20 without understanding fully the details of it, I feel that I shouldn't have share publicly my idea about the index I was going to create.

BitShares is a free market place, everyone is free to do whatever he wants on it. I knew there were the possibility that someone could try to create an index before I do.

Anyway, from now on, I won't share any more details on the index composition and structure, nor the website and other related projects. I'll only participate to the debate and brainstorm to avoid giving to much information. The bit20 website is also disable at the moment, it will be available again soon, after I remove the sensitive information from tne public side.
First nothing was actually created yet. I've just was curious how I can use in what I invested almost two years ago :-) We have our own methodology we are working for 2 years already which was published long time ago :-) I don't understand what you are worrying about really :-)

I just expressed my concerns about the fact that it wasn't maybe a good idea to openly discuss my plan on making a crypto index on BitShares.

Competion is good and more indexes on this platform will benefit BitShares wich is the most important to me.

You'll agree with me that it's completely natural that I don't want to give more information about my project on creating a index of the top 20 crypto by MC when I see two days after I create a thread about it that someone create a >>>

"cyber•Index 20
Cyber Index. Include Top-20 assets by capitalization"


I'm sure you can understand my position.

If I may suggest, you have been working on a way to select the best crypto currencies with sophisticated process. That's an impressiv work ! You should take advantage of all this work and create a index different from what I'm doing, something based on what you have in cyber.fund. It would be great to see how our both indexes are progressing vs fiat money and vs each other !


 

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A few month ago, there was a debate on the "PERCENT OFFSET OF FORCED SETTLEMENTS" and the "Max force settle vol" for BitUSD and other smartcoins. I think TCNY have done it differently that BitUSD.

Do someone have an opinion on wich kind of values would fit better to an index ?

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There is plenty of ways to weight an index. In the crypto currencies world, there will be probably, in the future, lots of indexes.

For now, I have a good one running since july 2015 and giving an acurate information about the evolution of the crypto currencies in a global way vs fiat money. I just have to make the economical input information scripts a little more reliable and create the smartcoin. It probbaly can be done in a matter of days.

I made this thread to brainstorm with this community on the index before creating it. When I see that 21xhipster rushed into creating some sort of Bit20 without understanding fully the details of it, I feel that I shouldn't have share publicly my idea about the index I was going to create.

BitShares is a free market place, everyone is free to do whatever he wants on it. I knew there were the possibility that someone could try to create an index before I do.

Anyway, from now on, I won't share any more details on the index composition and structure, nor the website and other related projects. I'll only participate to the debate and brainstorn to avoid giving to much information. The bit20 website is also disable at the moment, it will be available again soon, after I remove the sensitive information from tne public side.


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+5% +5% +5%  for the initiative !!!


some thoughts...

I think if you want to stick to the "best" 20 crypto's you should use the first 20 with the biggest volume NOT the 20 with the  biggest marketcap.... because we will see many shitcoins on the list very often....
if bit20 is depended from marketcap only it will be very misleading...  And not only use the 24h volume of course... we can use the top 20 crypto with the biggest weekly or monthly volume....

if you want to stick only with the marketacap then I prefer a bit10 index instead of the bit20 so that crap coins get out-filtered...
That's an interesting idea !

On the other hand, it would be sad for the data we already have collected since July 2015 on the Bit20 vs Fiat10, other fiat and cryptos.

My first though is the volume can vary quickly and it would change the composition of the Bit20 too often. Also, a coin loosing his reputation and his market cap with a lot of sellers and volume would climb up in the index when it should go down.
The weight can also be very challenging to define if we don't use the MC.

Any other comments on this idea ?

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Great initiative.  Let me know if there is any way I can assist.
I will ! This thread is also a way to know people interested in the project ;)

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Oh yeah, something else:

I also think a ETF Share token should be issued so that contributors get some sort of reward, @EstefanTT mentioned an idea like this on a previous thread and I thought it was quite incentive and a perfect way to do some crowdfunding too.
I mentioned it in the other thread. I have been thinking about creating a UIA that would represent 100% of the benefits coming from the 0.1% cut taking on the trades of the index.
That would allow us to reward easily anyone helping in the project.
I will probably create the UIA when I create the smartcoin and a buyback or dividend system would be use.

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