Losing 65% already.

Quote from: xeroc on October 22, 2015, 09:25:32 AM
I am in contact with Riggie and they are working as quickly as possible to integrate withdrawal and deposits for bts2 ..

Thanks a lot for the follow up, I really appreciate it. Do you know if they have any estimate?

Any news? Has Bittrex solved their problems? Seriously what do we need, one of those Cryptsy threads showing all the dirty clothes to everyone on all reddits to have this solved.
54% losses already

Can somebody please HELP here?

Quote from: xeroc on October 21, 2015, 06:11:28 PM

Quote from: coiner on October 21, 2015, 04:11:58 PM
Can somebody please contact her so we can end with this situation? Funds locked there since 14th. 49% losses being unable to trade or withdraw.

They are working on it .. I hat a chat with Riggie today .. I don't think he will run with your funds .. however .. someone of the BitShares community burnd him big time trading post snapshot BTS1 tokens on his platform!

Yes, i am aware. In the Bitshares telegram chat there was some people dumping coins on BTER after the snapshot. I think he is a delegate. Worth to reread all the conversation before and after the snapshot and check if something can be improved in the ethics department.

I am very sorry for the losses Bittrex could have but I am at this time worried enough about my own losses (49% and counting).

Especially not being responsible in either, the organization of an exchange that is getting fees for managing wallets and maybe (?) should do their homework regarding upgrades and forks of the main product they are selling (coins) or in the bitshares organization that maybe (?) could improve their communication skills at least with the 3 (not so many maybe?) major exchanges dealing with BTS that have ANY volume so things go smoothly.

Sadly that Bitshares investors and Bitshares image has to suffer from these problems. Bitshares has a wonderful technology and probably would have a far greater market cap and valuation if the investors were cared for, (as well as exchanges). Innaccesible exchanges, problems with wallets and 50% dumps probably scare a big deal to many investors and many won't come back ever.

Can somebody please contact her so we can end with this situation? Funds locked there since 14th. 49% losses being unable to trade or withdraw.

still waiting for them to reopen the market so i can withdraw my bts

Quote from: tonyk on October 15, 2015, 12:54:20 AM

Quote from: coiner on October 15, 2015, 12:42:44 AM
That is bullshit. Crypto is less and less the wild west. This is not 2012 anymore. We see people being made responsible of their acts more and more. Justice slow like a snail, right but there is people watching.

Bittrex could have a bucket shop? We will see in some hours if they are serious and honest or not.

I will open a FINCEN complain and post in all crypto subreddits if i don't get my money very soon.

I am DAMN tired of SCAMS.
Enough scams, they are hurting all of us.

@coiner you have lost the time of many here and in whatever crappy exchange you decide to transfer to, few hour before the snapshot.

How about I give 10 times, your potential but never occurring  loss, for just stopping the crying?

bts account please!

Sure why not, i will give it you back when they pay what they have to.
/PM

Financial Crimes Enforcement Network
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Crimes_Enforcement_Network

Virtual Currencies
In July 2011, FinCEN added "other value that substitutes for currency" to its definition of money services businesses in preparation to adapt the respective rule to virtual currencies.[6] On March 18, 2013 FinCEN issued an interpretive guidance regarding virtual currencies,[7] according to which, exchangers and administrators, but not users of convertible virtual currency are considered money transmitters, and must comply with rules to prevent money laundering/terrorist financing ("AML/CFT") and other forms of financial crime, by record-keeping, reporting and registering with FinCEN. Jennifer Shasky Calvery, director of FinCEN said, "Virtual currencies are subject to the same rules as other currencies. ... Basic money services business rules apply here."[8]

At a November 2013 Senate hearing Calvery stated, "It is in the best interest of virtual currency providers to comply with these regulations for a number of reasons. First is the idea of corporate responsibility," contrasting Bitcoin's understanding of a peer to peer system bypassing corporate financial institutions. She stated that FinCEN collaborates with the Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council, a congressionally-chartered forum called the "Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) Advisory Group" and BSA Working Group to review and discuss new regulations and guidance, with the FBI-led "Virtual Currency Emerging Threats Working Group" (VCET) formed in early 2012, the FDIC-led "Cyber Fraud Working Group", the Terrorist Financing & Financial Crimes-led "Treasury Cyber Working Group", and with a community of other financial intelligence units.[1] According to the Department of Justice VCET members represent the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, multiple U.S. Attorney's Offices, and the Criminal Division's Asset Forfeiture and Money Laundering Section and Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section.[9]

I give them 24 hours. If not i am going to ask these people why i get a 25% devaluation of an asset by some exchanges when my funds ARE LOCKED without any reason. Holy fucking shit i could just be a grandfather interested on this after reading forbes. ENOUGH SCAMS. How many dissapearing exchanges since 2012? 15 already? Incredibly ultra iliquid market being dumped by 25% while 2 of the exchanges BTER and BITTREX hold/lock coins, remove the market.

That is bullshit. Crypto is less and less the wild west. This is not 2012 anymore. We see people being made responsible of their acts more and more. Justice slow like a snail, right but there is people watching, consequences just happen months or years later but do happen.

Bittrex could have a bucket shop? We will see in some hours if they are serious and honest or not.

I will open a FINCEN complain and post in all crypto subreddits if i don't get my money very soon.

I am DAMN tired of SCAMS.
Enough scams, they are hurting all of us.

Quote from: liondani on October 14, 2015, 11:03:54 PM

Quote from: liondani on October 14, 2015, 10:33:07 PM
can anybody confirm here which was the last block before snapshot?

was it  3826176 ?

So they received my coins 1350 blocks BEFORE snapshot. They have it in the genesis 2.0 of THEIR WALLET. The point now is if IS BITTREX HONEST OR NOT?

Thanks so much for confirming and your wonderful help. I really appreciate it. So at this point is proven that they received the coins 1350 blocks BEFORE the snapshot. So they have the coins on the Genesis Block in their own Wallet. IS BITTREX HONEST OR NOT?

Anyone knows which was the block of the snapshot?

Was there any kind of fork 4 hours before the snapshot?

Thanks

Ok, now they state this:


Ryan Hentz    

Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)

Oct 14, 15:15
Hi,
Our records show Block # 3824826 as the block your coins were sent in and the fork block was 3823787, therefore these coins came in after fork.
Thank you,

Ryan


Which was the block of the snapshot?

Can somebody please verify this?

Quote from: bytemaster on October 14, 2015, 09:44:20 PM
Delegate Participation on the Official Chain dropped off of a cliff.   No exchange should have processed deposits with such low delegate participation.

Not sure i understand you. I sent the funds 4 Hours before the snapshot. I have been listening the Bitshares Telegram chat with frequent participation statistics. I think i can find what rate of participation was hourly.

Here it is BITSHARES TELEGRAM CHAT and FAV stating how at 15:02 GMT+1 there was a "blockchain_average_delegate_participation": "89.38 %",  -> http://i.imgur.com/WDW4TgH.png
That was at 9:02 AM, with FAV saying "Now it is dead". So there were not delegate participation problems at all when i sent the money 4 HOURS BEFORE THAN THAT

So does BITTREX have my money in their 0.9.x WALLET PRIVATE KEY even if they didn't migrate or whatever or they DON'T ??

I sent funds 4 HOURS BEFORE SNAPSHOT

http://i.imgur.com/g5jZY95.png

I sent 200.000 BTS to Bittrex at 11:06 CEST 13 October. This is 4 HOURS BEFORE SNAPSHOT at 9:00 AM EST. Time conversion table here -> http://i.imgur.com/yhENOjA.png

Thanks for helping