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General Discussion / Direct mail- old-school marketing
« on: November 18, 2014, 10:01:16 pm »
Idea:  Use a direct-mail campaign to bring in new users to bitshares.

Start with a small budget to test the response.

Use a sleek, simple, post-card-like mailer that makes it easy to redeem $1-5 dollars in bitUSD.  Clear, attractive branding.  Straightforward mission statement.  Offer should expire and be redeemed by bitshares after a time to avoid wasting capital.

Operation could target several segments, perhaps:  27-35 year old democrats, people who lost money in the housing bubble, ambitious college students, foreigners in bleak economic climates, digital subscription users, etc.

Should target potential savers or people who might spread the word.

What do you think?


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General Discussion / Re: *** Official grassroots marketing parent thread ***
« on: November 18, 2014, 08:33:22 pm »
Quote from: bitcoinba on September 18, 2014, 06:17:46 pm
This is currently on the front page of r/bitcoin:      http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2grsrt/bitsharesx_impossible_to_understand/

Please comment.

That was a sincere critique.  This sort of thing is positive, it will pique the interest of intelligent talent/investors, and offers good feedback about what we look like to the uninitiated.  While it doesn't help with the mass-adoption aspect, I think it was a good post, well worth reading.
+5%

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General Discussion / Re: NXTTY Marketing Strategy - Android Drop
« on: November 18, 2014, 08:22:45 pm »
+5%  I love all these experiments. :D

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General Discussion / Re: Should we kill the DACronym?
« on: November 10, 2014, 11:04:49 pm »
Subtract until it breaks.

 I fully support DA -decentralized application.  Everyone understands these terms, they are accurate, and they are in use by others for similar products.

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General Discussion / Re: Should we kill the DACronym?
« on: November 10, 2014, 10:56:34 pm »
Quote from: xeroc on November 10, 2014, 03:09:42 pm
Isn't BitShares more like a decentralized operating system (core software or KERNEL) and things like bitAssets/VOTE/keyID .. are DApps ontop of it?

DOS

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General Discussion / Re: Our Technology - For Average Joe
« on: November 09, 2014, 08:26:06 pm »
subtract until it breaks.  I think that breakdown works for semi-technical people.  I think that for the average joe, it needs to be simpler yet.  speak in terms of what people understand and care about + add a bit of jargon to give them a feeling of technology magic.

The bitshares network= a peer to peer network that behaves like a bank.
A bitshare= a digital token that behaves like a stock
A bitasset= a digital token that behaves like a dollar

The system is transparent, anonymous, and tamper proof.

or

The Bitshares Network is a robotic bank that issues digital shares and currencies such as dollars.  The bank is secured with math and is tamper proof, anonymous, and transparent.



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General Discussion / Re: Possible use case: bitUSD backend for centralized exchange
« on: October 30, 2014, 04:44:29 am »
Quote from: monsterer on October 29, 2014, 12:20:04 pm
Quote from: Princelucky on October 29, 2014, 01:14:08 am
How close are we to having fluid ways in/out of bitUSD? 
Is the Bitshares platform ready for such a usage case?
if not how soon?

Then you just moved the problem from the exchange to the on-ramp for bitUSD. The problem is the *banks* - they like to shut things like that down, whether it be exchange or on-ramp.

That's true, but if there are many dependable ways of getting dollars into and out of bitUSD then there would be no single point of failure, that would be the difference.  the problem may be better handled by the on-ramp, assuming that there are many.

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General Discussion / What are some ways that Banks can be cut out of capital flows?
« on: October 30, 2014, 04:34:41 am »
Moving money always seems to involve a bank.  How could the whole process be made peer-to-peer?  I imagine some sort of nebulous cloud of users sending money to each other using darknets, reputation systems, secure messaging, ripple, bitshares, and bitcoin.

Would it be feasible to design a social-networking/secure messaging/reputation system/ledger DAC that could facilitate a nebulized exchange of value?

The hardest part of trying to do this would be trying to protect the exit nodes.  How would you do it?  Cash in the mail?  checks from burner LLCs? burner banks?

The only form of money that is not lorded over by banks is cash.

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General Discussion / Re: Possible use case: bitUSD backend for centralized exchange
« on: October 29, 2014, 03:50:20 am »
It wouldn't matter where it was, just so long as it was accessible to anybody.  Legally, this exchange would only be trading in crypto-tokens.... Like Cryptsy or coined up.

When bitUSD is ready, it should be used in a scenario like this, It would really help adoption if people were able to see it out there solving actual problems. Generating freedoms.  Proving it's metal so to speak.

We just need multiple on/off ramps.  that's the trick tho, the capital flow needs to touch the banks somewhere.  The instant it does, it generates liabilities for whoever handles it.




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General Discussion / Possible use case: bitUSD backend for centralized exchange
« on: October 29, 2014, 01:14:08 am »
Justcoin is shutting down, citing banking issues.  Would it be possible to use the bitUSD as the backend for a centralized exchange?  Liberating the exchanges from banks would make it easier to run an exchange by orders of magnitude. 
so..

How close are we to having fluid ways in/out of bitUSD? 
Is the Bitshares platform ready for such a usage case?
if not how soon?

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General Discussion / Re: Marketing Direction - Why not How or What...
« on: October 27, 2014, 09:56:38 pm »
Bitshares has extreme potential.  I got on board last year because I could feel the promise and resolve of Bytemaster, Stan, and crew to make a positive change in the world.  When it comes time to sell the idea to the world-at-large, the best metaphor to use IMO is that of a work of art.   Works of art are effective when they make us FEEL something.  The finalized Bitshares product definitely has the potential to make the user feel good things, especially if the design and function are maximised to this end.

This link elegantly sums up my thinking.

http://www.joquz.com/2271/paper-art-principle-of-design-poster-series

balance  (ideology/utility, elegance/complexity, etc.)

hierarchy  (of ideals:  free trade, no need for trust, you're in control,)

space   (elegant and simple GUI, easily comprehensible functionality)

proportion  (Main, secondary, and tertiary functionalities)

emphasis  (  on banking and financial freedom )

contrast  (Stands apart from establised system)

unity  (works like what people already know)

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General Discussion / Re: NXTTY Marketing Strategy - Android Drop
« on: October 27, 2014, 09:25:26 pm »
Quote from: CLains on October 27, 2014, 04:49:22 pm
Quote from: Princelucky on October 27, 2014, 12:09:10 am
Quote from: CLains on October 26, 2014, 02:58:04 pm
NXTTY, one of the more ambitious assets on NXT, are a few days away from launching their Android wallet. They are planning to drop 2500 NXTTY (7 dollars atm) on the first 100k unique (by phone#) subscribers. This is a direct targeting to the masses like what the BitShares marketers have in mind.

We should watch them closely to see how well this works, and what can be done to improve their tactics. It is worth noting that market cap is rising on the impending launch, and the information that an air drop will come.. But this happened with Auroracoin etc. as well, and they crashed the second the air drop began, so be careful if you want to invest.

+5%  then it sounds like a really good plan.  It will be interesting to see what happens.

Suicide for their share price IMO

from James Clayton on Facebook,

"Reading up some more on NXTTY I am not concerned about the Air Drop causing immediate dumping, as apparently, that will only be allowed in an update later. So people will either initially hold for the interest, or use it to tip, or buy stickers with.

This gives time for the app and NXTTYCOIN to get distributed out to the 100k+ plus people, and then see if it really takes off or not. NXTTY volume and price have been increasing overall, so far, and there is 5% interest for holding NXTTY at the end of the month."

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General Discussion / Re: Marketing Direction - Why not How or What...
« on: October 27, 2014, 05:06:35 pm »
Quote from: liondani on October 27, 2014, 07:16:06 am
bitshares is something bigger than bitUSD...
don't take me wrong but the term bitUSD sounds too cheap to me.
It's like promoting in some degree the... past...
bitUSD is the digital mirror of USD and USD is 100% controlled from people that want our slavery(same with euro etc.)...
What if USD loose much of it's present "real" value in the near future because they want it to happen ?
That would mean that bitUSD will follow the decline, so our supporters with bitUSDs on their accounts would be  be "trapped" too.... Why should we follow the old system? Are we really thinking out of the box?
I think we must promote bitAssets in general and we should not promote to much on one of them, like we do right now...
We should promote the ability/option they have on our system/platform to own a basket of different global bitASSETS in a very easy way, knowing that:

1. They are 100% safe.
2. They are taking benefits/rewards for keeping them (Yield etc.)
3. They are liquid (max. 1 month delay)
4. Their privacy is 100% respected (TITAN, crypto etc...)
5. They can easy/fast/cheaply exchange from one bitASSET to another (?)
6. They can transfer/pay easy/fast/secure with minimal fees (goodbye paypal,bitcoin)
7. They can have a mixed bitASSET  portofolio without limits in quantity and value!
8. TAX FREE (what means IRS ?)
9.  ....name it...

...sorry if what I am saying doesn't make sense, maybe it is better I am going to sleep too  :)

it should be possible to code in a pegged asset that's inflation- adjusted, correct?   we could have an asset chained to 2014 dollars, might be cool

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General Discussion / Re: NXTTY Marketing Strategy - Android Drop
« on: October 27, 2014, 12:09:10 am »
Quote from: CLains on October 26, 2014, 02:58:04 pm
NXTTY, one of the more ambitious assets on NXT, are a few days away from launching their Android wallet. They are planning to drop 2500 NXTTY (7 dollars atm) on the first 100k unique (by phone#) subscribers. This is a direct targeting to the masses like what the BitShares marketers have in mind.

We should watch them closely to see how well this works, and what can be done to improve their tactics. It is worth noting that market cap is rising on the impending launch, and the information that an air drop will come.. But this happened with Auroracoin etc. as well, and they crashed the second the air drop began, so be careful if you want to invest.

Suicide for their share price IMO

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General Discussion / Re: [POLL] When BitShares Makes Its Move...
« on: October 26, 2014, 09:49:06 pm »
Quote from: mf-tzo on October 26, 2014, 09:29:33 pm
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Investment in BTS is out of reach for people not already into crypto....

Don't be so sure about that... ;)


..currently.  I hear that people are working on it, but to me, a wary investor, it's still a matter of faith.

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