bitsharesx platform - how do you retrieve old usernames

Started by eagleeye, September 07, 2014, 04:40:42 PM

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eagleeye

Quote from: xeroc on September 08, 2014, 06:19:31 AM
A random private key is MUCH more secure than any string that is generated by any human!

Sounds good.
TheValueSwan
www.thevalueswan.com

xeroc

A random private key is MUCH more secure than any string that is generated by any human!

eagleeye

Quote from: Troglodactyl on September 08, 2014, 04:33:51 AM
Quote from: eagleeye on September 08, 2014, 04:26:25 AM
Quote from: Troglodactyl on September 08, 2014, 04:22:12 AM
Quote from: eagleeye on September 08, 2014, 03:02:38 AM
Why cant they just make it like a Gmail or Facebook account so we can have multiple logins.

Because then you would have to trust a company like Google or Facebook with full control over your account.  The actual essence of these accounts is stored on your computer, so you have to move it if you want the account moved.  No one besides you has your account, so you can't get it back from them if you lose it.

When I mean "like" I dont mean use it.  I mean instead of just 'Password'  have

Login
Password
Retrieve Account

In the bitsharesx platform.

They could do that and have the entire account deterministically generated from the name and password, but people would undoubtedly pick insecure passwords and get their funds stolen.  As a default, the way it is now is much safer for users who may not understand all the risks.

Deterministically generated passwords and logins  +5%

A person would not just need your password but your login.

The system right now is safer in some ways but if you are not computer technical you could lose your entire bitshares stake.
TheValueSwan
www.thevalueswan.com

Troglodactyl

Quote from: eagleeye on September 08, 2014, 04:26:25 AM
Quote from: Troglodactyl on September 08, 2014, 04:22:12 AM
Quote from: eagleeye on September 08, 2014, 03:02:38 AM
Why cant they just make it like a Gmail or Facebook account so we can have multiple logins.

Because then you would have to trust a company like Google or Facebook with full control over your account.  The actual essence of these accounts is stored on your computer, so you have to move it if you want the account moved.  No one besides you has your account, so you can't get it back from them if you lose it.

When I mean "like" I dont mean use it.  I mean instead of just 'Password'  have

Login
Password
Retrieve Account

In the bitsharesx platform.

They could do that and have the entire account deterministically generated from the name and password, but people would undoubtedly pick insecure passwords and get their funds stolen.  As a default, the way it is now is much safer for users who may not understand all the risks.

eagleeye

Quote from: Troglodactyl on September 08, 2014, 04:22:12 AM
Quote from: eagleeye on September 08, 2014, 03:02:38 AM
Why cant they just make it like a Gmail or Facebook account so we can have multiple logins.

Because then you would have to trust a company like Google or Facebook with full control over your account.  The actual essence of these accounts is stored on your computer, so you have to move it if you want the account moved.  No one besides you has your account, so you can't get it back from them if you lose it.

When I mean "like" I dont mean use it.  I mean instead of just 'Password'  have

Login
Password
Retrieve Account

In the bitsharesx platform. 
TheValueSwan
www.thevalueswan.com

Troglodactyl

Quote from: eagleeye on September 08, 2014, 03:02:38 AM
Why cant they just make it like a Gmail or Facebook account so we can have multiple logins.

Because then you would have to trust a company like Google or Facebook with full control over your account.  The actual essence of these accounts is stored on your computer, so you have to move it if you want the account moved.  No one besides you has your account, so you can't get it back from them if you lose it. 

eagleeye

Why cant they just make it like a Gmail or Facebook account so we can have multiple logins.
TheValueSwan
www.thevalueswan.com

xeroc

In the menu bar you have to do a backup .. you will get a JSON file .. carry that over to the new computer .. and import it there from the menu bar .

will be the same passphrase

Shentist

you have to export your wallet in your old client, if not possible you already lost the name forever.

eagleeye

If you get a new computer (which I have) and you want to retrieve your old usernames, how do you do this?  I mean the platform shows a password you need to type, but no login.
TheValueSwan
www.thevalueswan.com