Not sure, never heard of retroshare.
I've used Aether tho, still have it installed, but not too many people are using it so not many threads appear yet.
It looks like a good start tho, I'm a big fan of minimalism.
It does need color tho for some ui ease, I love Discourse, would love to see a decentralzed version of Discourse, in my ideal world of course ;)

Quote from: kenCode on March 17, 2015, 09:14:48 AM
Aether.
http://getaether.net

That is a decentralized forum app. It's new, simplistic, but I imagine it could be expanded quite a bit to look more like Discourse or something (Maidsafe.org uses Discourse).

Do you know how Aether compares to RetroShare?

http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/index.html

EDIT: To clarify, is it just forums, and are they fully copied to each node?  How does discovery work?  The website is pretty short on details.  RetroShare uses PGP public keys as identifiers with DHT for discovery and supports forums, IM, and mail through the network of connected friends.

Quote from: monsterer on November 18, 2014, 03:59:13 PM

Quote from: sschechter on November 18, 2014, 03:48:53 PM
Who will build it and at what cost?

Blockchain based forum?
Who: well funded developer team, somewhere, say 5 hero developers, 1 year
Cost: ballpark $2M USD
For the blockchain based internet, you can probably scale that by a factor of 10.
Both of these will be developed eventually, its just a question of when really.

Screw that, I can get you reliable coders out of Latvia and Ukraine for a 20th of USD prices and they'll usually get the job done twice as fast too.

Aether.
http://getaether.net

That is a decentralized forum app. It's new, simplistic, but I imagine it could be expanded quite a bit to look more like Discourse or something (Maidsafe.org uses Discourse).

Quote from: joele on November 27, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
If there is decentralize forum, there should be a centralize moderators.
Otherwise it should be like reddit style with up or down vote.

Moderators could be voted in.

If there is decentralize forum, there should be a centralize moderators.
Otherwise it should be like reddit style with up or down vote.

Quote from: arhag on November 25, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
This is not a trivial DAC to build. I think the first step is rebuilding a centralized forum to follow some standard protocol so that a local client can locally reconstruct any part of the forum by simply requesting the content-addressable blobs of data from the host (or anyone else on the internet) that are necessary to reconstruct that part of the forum.

You might argue that these exact same set of requirements are true of any current blockchain implementation; there is a lot of irrelevant data which everyone is forced to download.

Advancements in the core technology ought to allow this intelligent pruning to 'just happen' as long as the new chain is designed sympathetically.

In my vision for this idea, it would actually have a separate blockchain to store its data rather than using features from the BTS chain as I suspect there might be a lot of compromises due to the mismatch of the different 'entities' required between both designs.

Here is an idea:

Set it up like yahoo answers. So if someone has a technical question, or trading question or whatever about BTS then it would cost them a certain amount. Then what the OP could do is they could select a best answer and the person who is awarded this would receive a % of the post fee. This would work really well for a technical question as people could be rewarded for helping.

I hope that makes sense.

I think getting $0.02 out of someone every time they post is making a killing as forums go.

The real question is this, how much revenue does this bitsharestalk.org have to earn to handle all of our posts + DOS etc?

Who would use a forum that cost money every time they made a post?   

There are so many completely free forums out there.

If you look at it another way, Bitcoin Foundation forum is "closed" except to those who have purchased a yearly member ship.   What is the cost-to-post on their forum? 

I suspect that if the core developers and support staff moved to the internal forum for all communication, then people would pay to post just to get their attention.   

Quote from: toast on November 25, 2014, 11:08:07 PM
Also I was thinking more like $0.25 - $1 to post.

:o

P.S. This post would have never happened if it would have cost me $1.  :)

Also I was thinking more like $0.25 - $1 to post.

How much does it cost to store a full block?

Maximum Block Size = 51200 bytes or about 160 GB per year. 

You are right, we will have to increase transaction fees to cover storage / bandwidth costs if we end up maxing out every single block.

If the average transaction is 1KB in size, that means we have about 50 trx per block or $1 per block or $31,000 per year in transaction fees per delegate to cover the costs.
If someone posts transactions that are 50KB each revenue would fall to just $624 per year per delegate.   Or $624 per year to store 1.6 GB of data, much cheaper to use free services rather that spam blockchain.

That is a fairly large discrepancy in revenue, but I suspect increasing the fees slightly if this was abused.

Quote from: bytemaster on November 25, 2014, 10:26:37 PM
Posts are limited to the maximum transaction size. 
We charge a fixed-fee-per-transaction which should price in the "maximum transaction size" so that we can have simple pricing (like iTunes). 

So if $0.02 isn't enough for the maximum transaction size then we should increase fees.

How many bytes would $0.02 get you? This seems like a totally useless feature for anything other than time-stamping a hash of some data into the blockchain. That is useful to prove you were the first to post some important piece of data or to prove to someone that some data (whatever the data may be) is being censored. But this is only a tiny part of a decentralized forum.

It won't cover hosting the actual post in a decentralized way. As I mentioned, with 2 cents per post and the current average daily post count, the revenue is only $240/month. And that's assuming the daily post count doesn't drop with a 2 cent per post fee (let's not even get into the ghost town this forum would be if you increased the fee to much higher than 2 cents). If you want to do this on the blockchain with DPOS, that means each delegate only gets approximately $2.40/month for the burden of hosting all of the data on this forum. At that point it is just altruism. It makes more sense to just hire a 100% paid BTS delegate to fund the current bitsharestalk.org forum. That doesn't make the forum decentralized though nor does the model scale to other forums that have nothing to do with BTS.

Or just charge well in excess of the "true" cost and don't make it complicated.

ack, bm beat me to it.