Quote from: alt on January 14, 2015, 01:39:35 PM

Quote from: cgafeng on January 14, 2015, 01:31:59 PM
just let the market do what it do best.
There always risk when you short and everybody should know that and take the risk before short.

I know you are right
so the result is fewer and fewer people want to short,
and where is the way for BITUSD?

when liquidity increase that will be not an issue anymore....
I really believe we participate on early days, after we have the relative orders future ready (v0.7) I am sure it will be a lot easier to cover orders (patience, we are almost there!)

Quote from: Rune on January 14, 2015, 01:36:15 PM
I think it's risky to have the primary BTS market on an external exchange. People are buying BTS on btc38 but not on the bitshares exchange itself, this can cause all sorts of weird issues.

When we're past this crash we should really do everything we can to move all BTS liquidity to the internal market, and use centralized exchanges as on/off ramps only.

+1
This is what BM suggested and visioned, and the right way to realise a decentralized exchange which BTS created for. But it has a long way to go as the market ended up like this: no one willing to short atm.

Quote from: xeroc on January 14, 2015, 02:01:56 PM

Quote from: liondani on January 14, 2015, 02:01:16 PM

Quote from: xeroc on January 14, 2015, 01:29:48 PM
So why is no one shorting? No one bullish any longer?

i shorted bitEUR  :)

For a nice 0% interest i would guess ;)

0.101%  (never under that even when I can)

Quote from: liondani on January 14, 2015, 02:01:16 PM

Quote from: xeroc on January 14, 2015, 01:29:48 PM
So why is no one shorting? No one bullish any longer?

i shorted bitEUR  :)

For a nice 0% interest i would guess ;)

Quote from: xeroc on January 14, 2015, 01:29:48 PM
So why is no one shorting? No one bullish any longer?

i shorted bitEUR  :)

但是问题又来了，不怕大户击穿BTS的卖单？1BTS产生了10000000000BTA？

Quote from: cgafeng on January 14, 2015, 01:31:59 PM
just let the market do what it do best.
There always risk when you short and everybody should know that and take the risk before short.

I know you are right
so the result is fewer and fewer people want to short,
and where is the way for BITUSD?

Quote from: Rune on January 14, 2015, 01:36:15 PM
I think it's risky to have the primary BTS market on an external exchange. People are buying BTS on btc38 but not on the bitshares exchange itself, this can cause all sorts of weird issues.

When we're past this crash we should really do everything we can to move all BTS liquidity to the internal market, and use centralized exchanges as on/off ramps only.

also no more advertising of BTS/BTC pairs but BIT*/BTC pairs and bit*/Fiat gateways of course!!

I think it's risky to have the primary BTS market on an external exchange. People are buying BTS on btc38 but not on the bitshares exchange itself, this can cause all sorts of weird issues.

When we're past this crash we should really do everything we can to move all BTS liquidity to the internal market, and use centralized exchanges as on/off ramps only.

Quote from: xeroc on January 14, 2015, 01:29:48 PM
So why is no one shorting? No one bullish any longer?

current price totally not about value,
I really believe BTS price should up to 1 dollar
but I will not short at this time, because I know I can't get any USD to cover my order,
and the price is out of control , or be control by somebody

Quote from: alt on January 14, 2015, 01:16:57 PM
you want more and more people to hold BITCNY and BITUSD to shopping,
and you don't care about how the shot position can cover his order,
do you really think this can work good?
I am afraid fewer and fewer people will short after this time.

we can run market engine continue, but I really think this is a problem and we should have a plane to fix it

+5%
这个类似支付宝，bitcny会沉淀在账户中，比如，我就有几十bitcny在账户中，很久没有动过
如果流通起来，会有大量资金沉淀。市场上的bitcny就会越来越少。
short的时候无法买到足够的bitcny

just let the market do what it do best.
There always risk when you short and everybody should know that and take the risk before short.

So why is no one shorting? No one bullish any longer?

you want more and more people to hold BITCNY and BITUSD to shopping,
and you don't care about how the shot position can cover his order,
do you really think this can work good?
I am afraid fewer and fewer people will short after this time.

we can run market engine continue, but I really think this is a problem and we should have a plane to fix it

Quote from: inarizushi on January 14, 2015, 11:02:15 AM
If a delegate stop publishing feed prices for stopping his own losses, the necessary response of the blockchain has to be to kick him out. This conflict of interest is quite frightening for the stability of the whole system...

even if he do it, it's not enough to stop the market, he must find many delegates that agree to do it!
The market will decide what they will do with delegates dependent of their actions and not so much of their suggestions/words/thoughts I suppose....