Are there any prints of the GUI? I'm very curious. A small, basic video, just messing around and showing the tabs or voting would be nice to share around

Quote from: blahblah7up on June 08, 2015, 08:44:13 PM
Let's rephrase the question then,

what kind of "proof of uniqueness" is required?

none ..

It just doesn't make sense to try to abuse the system by referring to your own newly created accounts .. because they do not produce income for you

Quote from: merivercap on June 08, 2015, 08:36:00 PM

Quote from: bytemaster on June 08, 2015, 07:23:40 PM

Quote from: Freebieservers on June 08, 2015, 07:22:15 PM

Quote from: bytemaster on June 08, 2015, 07:18:33 PM

Quote from: Freebieservers on June 08, 2015, 07:15:27 PM
Our user demographic would never spend money to try a new tech :/

It is really rather simple to finance things to get the funds.    Unfortunately, without required centralized ID verification there is no way to "give" samples away to new users.

Why would a person want to undergo an ID verification to try a demo of bitshares ?
Or do you mean  the company raising funds in large sums for this purpose ?

I mean it is a technical limitation of decentralized systems that without "proof of uniqueness" or "proof of work" the "free samples" given away will be sybil attacked and fail.   Bitcoin's referral program was proof of work... but now it has been abused.

What kind of ID verification is required?

Let's rephrase the question then,

what kind of "proof of uniqueness" is required?

Quote from: merivercap on June 08, 2015, 08:36:00 PM
What kind of ID verification is required?

no ID verification is required to use BitShares ..

ID verification may be required to use "some" User-Issued assets ..
If there was ID verification, sending out free samples to attract people would be possible ..
that's the reason we now have the more sophisticated referral program to attract people instead

Quote from: bytemaster on June 08, 2015, 07:23:40 PM

Quote from: Freebieservers on June 08, 2015, 07:22:15 PM

Quote from: bytemaster on June 08, 2015, 07:18:33 PM

Quote from: Freebieservers on June 08, 2015, 07:15:27 PM
Our user demographic would never spend money to try a new tech :/

It is really rather simple to finance things to get the funds.    Unfortunately, without required centralized ID verification there is no way to "give" samples away to new users.

Why would a person want to undergo an ID verification to try a demo of bitshares ?
Or do you mean  the company raising funds in large sums for this purpose ?

I mean it is a technical limitation of decentralized systems that without "proof of uniqueness" or "proof of work" the "free samples" given away will be sybil attacked and fail.   Bitcoin's referral program was proof of work... but now it has been abused.

What kind of ID verification is required? 

reddit post seems it was removed. even if it was by the owner, major fuck up if you ask me. Why do you insist on post stuff on bitcoin sub reddit, post on other decentralized and crypto related subs. not there...

congrats

Quote from: infovortice2013 on June 08, 2015, 08:23:18 PM
whats DOA means?

i buy a quad processor for dig sparkles

DOA:  dead on arrival

whats DOA means?

i buy a quad processor for dig sparkles

Quote from: infovortice2013 on June 08, 2015, 08:12:01 PM
and whats up with sparkles is waiting 1.0  :o

I wanted my sparkles. :(

Quote from: cass on June 08, 2015, 08:14:39 PM

Quote from: infovortice2013 on June 08, 2015, 08:12:01 PM
and whats up with sparkles is waiting 1.0  :o

guess they will miss the train  ;D

Quote from: bytemaster on May 25, 2015, 02:56:15 PM

Quote from: biophil on May 25, 2015, 02:10:31 PM
Sparkle was originally intended to be PoW, not DPOS. That was the whole point: bitshares functionality on a PoW chain.

Something tells me Sparkle is DOA.

Quote from: infovortice2013 on June 08, 2015, 08:12:01 PM
and whats up with sparkles is waiting 1.0  :o

guess they will miss the train  ;D

and whats up with sparkles is waiting 1.0  :o

Quote from: theoretical on June 08, 2015, 08:05:31 PM

Quote from: favdesu on June 08, 2015, 07:26:58 PM
that means no traditional marketing methods would even work (like google ads)

nope, I think this referral program is a waste of time :<

You're worried that a referrer will have to run a full node, create a transaction on the user's behalf, get the user to sign it and return the signed tx, then broadcast the tx.

We realized this would be a problem soon after the initial design of the referral system, and we have a solution.  That's what the registrar is for.  Essentially we split the referral role into two parts:  the referrer can be a traditional internet marketer, all they have to do is get the user to click a link to some hosted wallet with ?r=youraccount.  The operator of the hosted wallet is a registrar who takes care of all the hard blockchain stuff.  The referrer and registrar split the commission (and the split doesn't have to be 50-50, any percentage is possible at the blockchain level.)

Any good marketer who can collect users can be their own registrar and get 100% of the commission, but marketers may not want to deal with the technology headaches of being a registrar.

By making it easy for them to split their commissions, any marketer (referrer) can partner with any technologist (registrar) and maximize their value because both are focused on their specialty instead of trying to simultaneously master both marketing and technology.

The official hosted wallet website will function as a registrar based on ?r= parameter on incoming links, but competing registrars will almost certainly spring up.  The free market should allow opportunity for a variety of cooperative and competitive relationships to form.

I should also note that payouts are based on income and vest for some time, which greatly mitigates a variety of potential referral abuses.

thank you! that's much better than my initial thoughts on it.

@bitsapphire moonstone needs this!

Quote from: favdesu on June 08, 2015, 07:26:58 PM
that means no traditional marketing methods would even work (like google ads)

nope, I think this referral program is a waste of time :<

You're worried that a referrer will have to run a full node, create a transaction on the user's behalf, get the user to sign it and return the signed tx, then broadcast the tx.

We realized this would be a problem soon after the initial design of the referral system, and we have a solution.  That's what the registrar is for.  Essentially we split the referral role into two parts:  the referrer can be a traditional internet marketer, all they have to do is get the user to click a link to some hosted wallet with ?r=youraccount.  The operator of the hosted wallet is a registrar who takes care of all the hard blockchain stuff.  The referrer and registrar split the commission (and the split doesn't have to be 50-50, any percentage is possible at the blockchain level.)

Any good marketer who can collect users can be their own registrar and get 100% of the commission, but marketers may not want to deal with the technology headaches of being a registrar.

By making it easy for them to split their commissions, any marketer (referrer) can partner with any technologist (registrar) and maximize their value because both are focused on their specialty instead of trying to simultaneously master both marketing and technology.

The official hosted wallet website will function as a registrar based on ?r= parameter on incoming links, but competing registrars will almost certainly spring up.  The free market should allow opportunity for a variety of cooperative and competitive relationships to form.

I should also note that payouts are based on income and vest for some time, which greatly mitigates a variety of potential referral abuses.

Quote from: bytemaster on June 08, 2015, 07:10:11 PM

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Quote from: Ander on June 08, 2015, 06:31:28 PM
I love that the new client will be an entirely broswer based wallet.  This will greatly reduce the barrier to entry.

At present, its very easy for me to have a bitcoin wallet at blockchain.org, or a dogecoin wallet at dogechain, or whatever.  But having a Bitshares wallet was very difficult, required me to update the client, took a long time to sync the blockchain, and hogged my computer resources when I ran it. 

This will be a MASSIVE upgrade to usability.

The new client architecture is much easier to work with as well, and having built-in websocket support makes everything so much cleaner. Instead of constantly polling for updates we can now simply subscribe to updates for an account or a market, and get instant notifications whenever something happens. It's pure gold :)

We've also switched to using React instead of Angular so the new wallet will be much much faster.

SVK has made a HUGE contribution to the GUI that is as big as any other core developer.   Thank you SVK for joining the team and helping make the new UI better than ever!

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