What happens to expired shorts?

Started by evolvo, June 18, 2015, 02:17:37 AM

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cylonmaker2053

Quote from: pc on June 19, 2015, 01:13:59 PM
IIRC covers are ordered by their margin call limit, and orders with identical limits are in fact ordered by their owner address.

LOL oh ok, well at least it's within the same order limit bundles :)

too bad the secondary ranking isn't done by expiration date! maybe an easy fix for future update?

Riverhead

Quote from: tonyk on June 18, 2015, 06:51:39 PM


you guys are endless optimists... they are covered based on the most logical criteria of all - alphabetic order of the account/key.


He's not joking. This was covered in a mumble session some time back.

Quote from: pc on June 19, 2015, 01:13:59 PM
IIRC covers are ordered by their margin call limit, and orders with identical limits are in fact ordered by their owner address.

pc

IIRC covers are ordered by their margin call limit, and orders with identical limits are in fact ordered by their owner address.
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cylonmaker2053

haha @tonyk ...but what's the real answer? are shorts covered in order of call price or expiration date???

liondani

Quote from: tonyk on June 18, 2015, 06:51:39 PM
Quote from: lil_jay890 on June 18, 2015, 06:40:24 PM
Quote from: jsidhu on June 18, 2015, 07:49:22 AM
The big 5 million bts wall at the call price are expired shorts waiting to be filled like yours. It's in order of short margin call price Lower to higher I believe. Once it auto covers u should get it back im also waiting.

I believe that shorts are auto covered based on expiration date.  That is what I have noticed as the buywall has slowly been eaten into.

you guys are endless optimists... they are covered based on the most logical criteria of all - alphabetic order of the account/key.
Lol

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tonyk

Quote from: lil_jay890 on June 18, 2015, 06:40:24 PM
Quote from: jsidhu on June 18, 2015, 07:49:22 AM
The big 5 million bts wall at the call price are expired shorts waiting to be filled like yours. It's in order of short margin call price Lower to higher I believe. Once it auto covers u should get it back im also waiting.

I believe that shorts are auto covered based on expiration date.  That is what I have noticed as the buywall has slowly been eaten into.

you guys are endless optimists... they are covered based on the most logical criteria of all - alphabetic order of the account/key.

Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

lil_jay890

Quote from: jsidhu on June 18, 2015, 07:49:22 AM
The big 5 million bts wall at the call price are expired shorts waiting to be filled like yours. It's in order of short margin call price Lower to higher I believe. Once it auto covers u should get it back im also waiting.

I believe that shorts are auto covered based on expiration date.  That is what I have noticed as the buywall has slowly been eaten into.

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The big 5 million bts wall at the call price are expired shorts waiting to be filled like yours. It's in order of short margin call price Lower to higher I believe. Once it auto covers u should get it back im also waiting.
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pc

Quote from: evolvo on June 18, 2015, 02:26:36 AM
If which BitUSD hits the feed price?

If I shorted BitUSD when BTS was lower..and now it's twice as high...what would prevent it from covering?

It will cover at the feed price, i. e. when someone sells BitUSD at the feed price.
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evolvo

If which BitUSD hits the feed price?

If I shorted BitUSD when BTS was lower..and now it's twice as high...what would prevent it from covering?
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To my knowledge...

Quote from: evolvo on June 18, 2015, 02:17:37 AM
will they eventually auto-cover?

Yes, if the BitUSD hits the feed price.

Quote from: evolvo on June 18, 2015, 02:17:37 AM
Will I have to buy BitUSD to pay off the debt?

Only if you want to cover your position.

Quote from: evolvo on June 18, 2015, 02:17:37 AM
If I pay off the debt will the system send back my BTS being held as collateral?

Yup.
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evolvo

I've had some expired shorts sitting in the system for about two months....will they eventually auto-cover? Will I have to buy BitUSD to pay off the debt? If I pay off the debt will the system send back my BTS being held as collateral? I'm not sure how this works?
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