NXT forks BitShares 2.O mojo! goes for scalability

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TravelsAsia

Here's an idea, how about we focus on attacking ideas instead of each other.

btswildpig

Quote from: CoinHoarder on February 24, 2016, 07:12:34 PM
You guys are delusional. Check the date on the OP compared to the date of Tony's OP. If anything Tony stole the idea from Nxt. They have been discussing similar ideas for a long time now, this is their most recent design.

You stole the English words from whoever invested English   :P
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btswildpig

Quote from: Pheonike on February 24, 2016, 06:20:05 PM

While we are sitting here in a circle jerk arguing about dilution, other people are taken our ideas and running with them.

while we have paid a dear price by dilution to development features , other people can take our ideas and features and finished codes to build their own chain .

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Erlich Bachman

#21
Quote from: yellowecho on February 25, 2016, 02:27:30 AM
http://usdplus.co/

they must have stolen that idea from Empiracle.  Now why are we letting the competition take the lead on this one?

oh yeah, I forgot. yield harvesting.

but then again, isn't that the point?

I want to " harvest " some yield too.  Does that make me a bad person?
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CoinHoarder

Quote from: gamey on February 25, 2016, 02:14:30 AM
Quote from: CoinHoarder on February 25, 2016, 02:12:57 AM
Quote from: gamey on February 25, 2016, 02:03:27 AM
bla bla bla

Again, you lack reading comprehension. I'm not going to waste my time with an imbecile such as yourself.  :-*

Says the guy who doesn't understand the difference between Bitshares 2.0 and TonyK's idea. 

Everyone be aware of this, when evaluating this guy's opinions.

The more you talk the dumber you look.  ::)
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gamey

Quote from: CoinHoarder on February 25, 2016, 02:12:57 AM
Quote from: gamey on February 25, 2016, 02:03:27 AM
bla bla bla

Again, you lack reading comprehension. I'm not going to waste my time with an imbecile such as yourself.  :-*

Says the guy who doesn't understand the difference between Bitshares 2.0 and TonyK's idea. 

Everyone be aware of this, when evaluating this guy's opinions.
I speak for myself and only myself.

CoinHoarder

#17
Quote from: gamey on February 25, 2016, 02:03:27 AM
Their idea is for a dual token system to deal with their forging system.  So you have equity in forging.  TonyKs idea was never to create more tokens.  Just make it so you can't trade BTS outside the DEX.  There is little commonality in these ideas..  the fact that you read that into this is quite demonstrative of how out of you are.  You are blinded by your FUD mission. I am not going to spend more time on this post.  You're a fool. I gave up refuting your nonsense after the first few. 

Let me dumb it down for you. No one here suggested they stole TonyKs idea!!!!

Good luck kid, maybe you can diceroll up another 30-50 IQ points and you can make another appearance as him.

Again, you lack reading comprehension. I'm not going to waste my time with an imbecile such as yourself.  :-*

It is not my fault that I am capable of conceptualizing the pitfalls to Tonyk's proposal and his forking mission, when the rest of the Bitshares community does not consider them. Just because I am more vocal than others about it does not mean others do not agree with me. Most do not have the balls to say what I say because they would be worried what groupthink idiots such as yourself may think about them.

Dissenting opinions = FUD to sheep such as yourself.
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gamey

Quote from: CoinHoarder on February 25, 2016, 01:42:23 AM
Quote from: gamey on February 24, 2016, 11:11:37 PM
Quote from: CoinHoarder on February 24, 2016, 07:12:34 PM
You guys are delusional. Check the date on the OP compared to the date of Tony's OP. If anything Tony stole the idea from Nxt. They have been discussing similar ideas for a long time now, this is their most recent design.

You are completely confused and should stop posting until you get it straightened out. 

Which idea would Tonyk have stole?  Who are the "delusional guys" in this thread??

But besides that... TonyK's idea is not "BitShares 2.0 mojo".

In your goal to manipulate/complain/whatever you have completely confused yourself.  Nap it out for a bit, kid. Try again tomorrow. Goodluck.

You mad?

Irritated at your idiocy.
You're definitely an idiot that lacks reading comprehension.

Exhibit A: The thread title is "NXT forks Bitshares 2.0 mojo!" which refers to Nxt forking TonyK's idea (considering the link in the OP).
BitShares 2.0 is TonyK's idea?  Wooah, lemme tell him this one.
Exhibit B: Someone claims NXT stole the idea.
Quote from: Pheonike on February 24, 2016, 06:20:05 PM
While we are sitting here in a circle jerk arguing about dilution, other people are taken our ideas and running with them.
This has nothing to do with TonyK's idea. Ok.  One guy says they've taken our ideas, but that doesn't equate to 'you guys are delusional.  Everyone takes everyone's ideas here.

Exhibit C: Someone agrees with Exhibit B.
Quote from: xeroc on February 24, 2016, 06:22:46 PM
Quote from: Pheonike on February 24, 2016, 06:20:05 PM
While we are sitting here in a circle jerk arguing about dilution, other people are taken our ideas and running with them.
Same procedure as every year ..
At least we wont have much money to spend innovating in future

Exhibit D: I did not accuse Tonyk of stealing the idea, because of the use of "if anything" and the context surrounding those words. Considering those things, that statement doesn't mean "tonyk stole the idea." It means that it is impossible for NXT to have stolen the idea. Let me dumb it down for you... It is impossible for Nxt to have stolen the dual token idea, because their OP was before Tonyk's OP, and I know (since I am a Nxt investor/supporter) that they have been tossing around this idea for a while. If anyone stole the idea (Nxt or Tonyk) it was Tonyk seeing as their idea was published first.
Quote from: CoinHoarder on February 24, 2016, 07:12:34 PM
You guys are delusional. Check the date on the OP compared to the date of Tony's OP. If anything Tony stole the idea from Nxt. They have been discussing similar ideas for a long time now, this is their most recent design.

Their idea is for a dual token system to deal with their forging system.  So you have equity in forging.  TonyKs idea was never to create more tokens.  Just make it so you can't trade BTS outside the DEX.  There is little commonality in these ideas..  the fact that you read that into this is quite demonstrative of how out of you are.  You are blinded by your FUD mission. I am not going to spend more time on this post.  You're a fool. I gave up refuting your nonsense after the first few. 

Let me dumb it down for you. No one here suggested they stole TonyKs idea!!!!

Good luck kid, maybe you can diceroll up another 30-50 IQ points and you can make another appearance as him.
I speak for myself and only myself.

CoinHoarder

#15
Quote from: gamey on February 24, 2016, 11:11:37 PM
Quote from: CoinHoarder on February 24, 2016, 07:12:34 PM
You guys are delusional. Check the date on the OP compared to the date of Tony's OP. If anything Tony stole the idea from Nxt. They have been discussing similar ideas for a long time now, this is their most recent design.

You are completely confused and should stop posting until you get it straightened out. 

Which idea would Tonyk have stole?  Who are the "delusional guys" in this thread??

But besides that... TonyK's idea is not "BitShares 2.0 mojo".

In your goal to manipulate/complain/whatever you have completely confused yourself.  Nap it out for a bit, kid. Try again tomorrow. Goodluck.

You mad?

You're definitely an idiot that lacks reading comprehension.

Exhibit A: The thread title is "NXT forks Bitshares 2.0 mojo!" which refers to Nxt forking TonyK's idea (considering the link in the OP).

Exhibit B: Someone claims NXT stole the idea.
Quote from: Pheonike on February 24, 2016, 06:20:05 PM
While we are sitting here in a circle jerk arguing about dilution, other people are taken our ideas and running with them.

Exhibit C: Someone agrees with Exhibit B.
Quote from: xeroc on February 24, 2016, 06:22:46 PM
Quote from: Pheonike on February 24, 2016, 06:20:05 PM
While we are sitting here in a circle jerk arguing about dilution, other people are taken our ideas and running with them.
Same procedure as every year ..
At least we wont have much money to spend innovating in future

Exhibit D: I did not accuse Tonyk of stealing the idea, because of the use of "if anything" and the context surrounding those words. Considering those things, that statement doesn't mean "tonyk stole the idea." It means that it is impossible for NXT to have stolen the idea. Let me dumb it down for you... It is impossible for Nxt to have stolen the dual token idea, because their OP was before Tonyk's OP, and I know (since I am a Nxt investor/supporter) that they have been tossing around this idea for a while. If anyone stole the idea (Nxt or Tonyk) it was Tonyk seeing as their idea was published first.
Quote from: CoinHoarder on February 24, 2016, 07:12:34 PM
You guys are delusional. Check the date on the OP compared to the date of Tony's OP. If anything Tony stole the idea from Nxt. They have been discussing similar ideas for a long time now, this is their most recent design.
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gamey


Although I was a big fan of the toolkit idea, I am not so sure the right stack was chosen for such a thing. I have no idea about 2.0.

NXT however  has the benefit of being a java based project.  Java is very popular.  https://github.com/blog/2047-language-trends-on-github

So NXT has a potentially larger developer base that has been untapped by guys wanting to work on a blockchain project.

This is not to say C++ is bad or anything, but just something to consider why NXT has developers. Really not trying to criticize anyone in this post...
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clayop

Quote from: Empirical1.2 on February 24, 2016, 11:26:34 PM
Quote from: betax on February 24, 2016, 11:17:22 PM
Quote from: xeroc on February 24, 2016, 06:22:46 PM
Quote from: Pheonike on February 24, 2016, 06:20:05 PM

While we are sitting here in a circle jerk arguing about dilution, other people are taken our ideas and running with them.
Same procedure as every year ..
At least we wont have much money to spend innovating in future

Shame...

Where does NXT get the money for innovating? They have no dilution right.

Not against diluting for good/profitable development obviously, just slightly ironic/humorous we're attempting to justify dilution for development using a competitor innovating/developing with no dilution :)

IMO the motivation is NXT price increase, and that's the win-win for shareholders and workers.
If a worker declares that he won't get paid until the price doubled, he may get voted in ;)
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Quote from: betax on February 24, 2016, 11:17:22 PM
Quote from: xeroc on February 24, 2016, 06:22:46 PM
Quote from: Pheonike on February 24, 2016, 06:20:05 PM

While we are sitting here in a circle jerk arguing about dilution, other people are taken our ideas and running with them.
Same procedure as every year ..
At least we wont have much money to spend innovating in future

Shame...

Where does NXT get the money for innovating? They have no dilution right.

Not against diluting for good/profitable development obviously, just slightly ironic/humorous we're attempting to justify dilution for development using a competitor innovating/developing with no dilution :)
If you want to take the island burn the boats

TravelsAsia

No secret sauce in open source. We can only hope more 2.0 platforms take off.

betax

Quote from: xeroc on February 24, 2016, 06:22:46 PM
Quote from: Pheonike on February 24, 2016, 06:20:05 PM

While we are sitting here in a circle jerk arguing about dilution, other people are taken our ideas and running with them.
Same procedure as every year ..
At least we wont have much money to spend innovating in future

Shame...
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