[ANN] DwarfPool - MEGA WEEKEND-PROMOTION

Started by Atrides, January 18, 2014, 03:55:22 PM

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bppsp1

Quote from: asenski on January 22, 2014, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: bppsp1 on January 21, 2014, 10:10:17 PM
The calc math is roughly correct Id say.

What I see is happening is quite simply LARGE pools "outluck" small pools on block hits.

Think about it like this, if you had 90 people flipping coins on one side as a team and 10 people on the other side and the rule is that whichever side have the highest percentage of heads/tails then the 90 people flipping coins will in the vast majority totally dominate the 10 people flipping coins except if you got constant same difficulty and unlimited time then it will even out but it would take many many years if you ask me.

That is not the reason. The small pool that only has 10 people also only splits the reward 10-way instead of 90-way.

The only reason people join pools is if chance of finding a block is so far into the future that by then the difficulty could drastically change and they could mine for a month and end up with nothing.

However with the HPM I have I could discover 7 blocks/day, I don't really need a pool.

The whole logic of low hashrate pools will even out over time vs high hashrate pools is entirely flawed. This would be valid if we were talking about constant block rewards and constant same difficulty.

The fact that block rewards gets reduce quite often and difficulty fluctuate quite often effectively will keep a low hashing pool at a disadvantage and lower earnings ALLWAYS because it will have much greater variance during difficulty/block reward periods.

Low hashrate pool would need the hand of GOD to assist them if they want to actually reap the same earnings over time which realisticly just wont happen no matter how you try and slice it.

This is unfortunate though, it would be great if all hashrates were balanced among pools for equal chance of getting blocks per difficulty/blockreward period but right now with Memorycoin the competition and interest is too low to sustain a fairly equal split across all the available pools.

trankil

Quote from: Atrides on January 21, 2014, 04:58:14 PM
Quote from: trankil on January 21, 2014, 08:15:52 AM
i think you have a big big problem with your pool

i put 75.33 HPM  on it since yesterday and only  8MMC

look at this http://dwarfpool.com/mmc/address?wallet=MLp3eb64YEs4H27dhLsLv5ViKUV1hLKRBg

with other pools we have 20 to 30 MMC by days

You just got into the bad time when only few blocks have been found. Look at the diagram on the main page.

For example http://dwarfpool.com/mmc/address?wallet=MDp6AbARFnh68S8jURM4T8WBWudY5caMPq
With similar capacity he came to the pool much earlier than you, and he's got the same number of coins during the same period that you.
The number of coins do not depend on the time that you are on the pool, but on founded blocks in that time.
Therefore the pool should be observed for a longer time.

But even now from only a few founded blocks for the last bad 24 hours you've gathered 16-17 coins.

Quote from: trankil on January 21, 2014, 02:24:44 PM
No answer of asenski
ok we will move to an other pool again  >:(
I already answered today "Statistic fixed"
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2419.msg30640#msg30640

what i see its when i come back to an other pool i get 70-80 MMC by day instead of that... so
MMC : MTxecTRmb6Gs4wu4jsftJSHSuowiV3o6tF

PTS : PZt3qLFhQeber5NFjjv3ith813oF6zBwnU

bppsp1

The calc math is roughly correct Id say.

What I see is happening is quite simply LARGE pools "outluck" small pools on block hits.

Think about it like this, if you had 90 people flipping coins on one side as a team and 10 people on the other side and the rule is that whichever side have the highest percentage of heads/tails then the 90 people flipping coins will in the vast majority totally dominate the 10 people flipping coins except if you got constant same difficulty and unlimited time then it will even out but it would take many many years if you ask me.

Atrides

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Quote from: trankil on January 21, 2014, 08:15:52 AM
i think you have a big big problem with your pool

i put 75.33 HPM  on it since yesterday and only  8MMC

look at this http://dwarfpool.com/mmc/address?wallet=MLp3eb64YEs4H27dhLsLv5ViKUV1hLKRBg

with other pools we have 20 to 30 MMC by days

You just got into the bad time when only few blocks have been found. Look at the diagram on the main page.

For example http://dwarfpool.com/mmc/address?wallet=MDp6AbARFnh68S8jURM4T8WBWudY5caMPq
With similar capacity he came to the pool much earlier than you, and he's got the same number of coins during the same period that you.
The number of coins do not depend on the time that you are on the pool, but on founded blocks in that time.
Therefore the pool should be observed for a longer time.

But even now from only a few founded blocks for the last bad 24 hours you've gathered 16-17 coins.

Quote from: trankil on January 21, 2014, 02:24:44 PM
No answer of asenski
ok we will move to an other pool again  >:(
I already answered today "Statistic fixed"
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2419.msg30640#msg30640
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trankil

Quote from: trankil on January 21, 2014, 08:15:52 AM
i think you have a big big problem with your pool

i put 75.33 HPM  on it since yesterday and only  8MMC

look at this http://dwarfpool.com/mmc/address?wallet=MLp3eb64YEs4H27dhLsLv5ViKUV1hLKRBg

with other pools we have 20 to 30 MMC by days

No answer of asenski

ok we will move to an other pool again  >:(
MMC : MTxecTRmb6Gs4wu4jsftJSHSuowiV3o6tF

PTS : PZt3qLFhQeber5NFjjv3ith813oF6zBwnU

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trankil

i think you have a big big problem with your pool

i put 75.33 HPM  on it since yesterday and only  8MMC

look at this http://dwarfpool.com/mmc/address?wallet=MLp3eb64YEs4H27dhLsLv5ViKUV1hLKRBg

with other pools we have 20 to 30 MMC by days
MMC : MTxecTRmb6Gs4wu4jsftJSHSuowiV3o6tF

PTS : PZt3qLFhQeber5NFjjv3ith813oF6zBwnU

Atrides

Statistic fixed, payments made, please check it up. awards will be transfered tomorrow.
From now on payments will be made automatically after every block's confirmation

Thank you all for your patience and trust!
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bppsp1

Id seriously appreciate getting payouts processed, I daytrade MMC so not having access to my coins in timely manner isn't working out.

bppsp1

Any update on payouts and finishing the stats section so it provides accurate info regarding unconfirmed/confirmed/balance etc .?

Also stats is frozen again, recent block not updated under stats etc.


bppsp1

Quote from: Atrides on January 20, 2014, 11:22:37 AM
I suspended the autopayment and the personal statistic in the table "Shares" because of founded small bug on the personal page.
But the data in the table "Detailed shares" are always correct and actual, these are raw data.
I'll correct it now, renew stat and make first payments manually.
Thank you!

Ok, the worry was just about no stats / earnings updating.


Atrides

I suspended the autopayment and the personal statistic in the table "Shares" because of founded small bug on the personal page.
But the data in the table "Detailed shares" are always correct and actual, these are raw data.
I'll correct it now, renew stat and make first payments manually.
Thank you!
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bppsp1

The personal stats havnt updated for many hours as opposed to the main page block list.

Im guessing when he suspended payouts he somehow ended up also freezing the stats page.

I hope he resolves this quickly, things like this freak me the shit out. ;0

Atrides

Autopayments currently disabled because I want to double-triple-check all first shares and transactions manually.

I extend promotion up to 24:00 UTC
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Atrides

#12
Award for block 8671 again to "MFH4DrpkfWWfFRvtdu6TJuT4D8txKAKM6b" ))

Quote from: asenski on January 19, 2014, 10:27:03 PM
Nevermind, I think I get it - you are showing MORE stats than the other pools, including the blocks we were trying to solve but didn't, which results in "not found".

I'll change the statistic to ordinary one, it will not be seen detailed for each network block.
The status "not found" and other are general for pool, not for individual user.

Quote from: asenski on January 19, 2014, 10:27:03 PM
Do these shares still add up - the not found ones?

Quote from: bppsp1 on January 19, 2014, 10:27:03 PM
Any update on clearing up the stats page with regards to unconfirmed earnings etc. ?
Call me sceptical but I want to first see these changes implemented before I point miners to dwarfpool, cant wait. :)

Yes, all shares from "not founded" blocks will be calculated to next immatured
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