Quote from: bitsharesbagholder on January 11, 2019, 01:48:50 PM
is there anything being done to help restore it ?

https://youtu.be/IXOoZ8Zd2eA?t=1105

This discussion about cashless societies is describing a very negative future if allowed to grow without alternatives..

The quickly approaching dangers of centralization of payment systems....

Why isn't a Bitshares marketing worker or the Foundation or Cryptonomex promoting the hell out of  BTS as the antidote ?!

BTS marketcap should be at least $5-6 billion even in its current state!   

Where's a smart whale when you need one.... geez!

By bidding for the settlement fund we are essentially bidding for a position at a specific bitusd/bts price?

      YES, ( and the more collateral you bid the better your position)

-If enough bids happen and this revives, we essentially skip the step of having to sell bitusd for bts in the open market after borrowing bitusd into existence?    YES, essentially

-If the above is correct and we had enough BTS backing, we could essentially open a position at $0.01 with 1k debt and 100k collateral?    YES,

but you would not want to tie up that much collateral for a relatively small amount of debt.....

a revival will only happen when the MCR is greater than 1.75....

either because the feed price has increased sufficiently - e.g auto revival

or because the total amount of collateral bids is greater than 1.75 x #bitshares in the settlement fund..

or some combination of both..

Still trying to wrap my head around bsip18 after reading: https://steemit.com/bitshares/@haruka/detailed-mechanism-of-global-settlement-black-swan-and-reviving-of-bitassets

Please correct me if I am wrong about the following:

-By bidding for the settlement fund we are essentially bidding for a position at a specific bitusd/bts price?

-If enough bids happen and this revives, we essentially skip the step of having to sell bitusd for bts in the open market after borrowing bitusd into existence?

-If the above is correct and we had enough BTS backing, we could essentially open a position at $0.01 with 1k debt and 100k collateral?

End of the day I want to borrow bitusd and buy more bts with it by using existing bts as collateral.  Since that is not available at the moment, is the above method correct to get a position when this revives?

Is Bitspark in Mexico?

         www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/02/11/691467587/americans-seek-cheaper-meds-in-mexico

The way you have worded your question kinda leaves it open to several interpretations,.I think if you ask your question more precisely it might be easier to answer...

Having said that, my view is simple..bidding on the settlement fund debt is basically betting on the future of BTS ( and indirectly I guess on the success of BEOS and EOS)   

So the only question is how much do you want to bet..

i.e how much debt do you want to acquire and how much additional collateral do you want to add to your margin account to secure it..

If I understand your question correctly...the only way to "arb"...(i'm guessing you mean arbitrage) this is to buy bitUSD in the open market in exchange for whatever other assets you have which would "protect" you in case of a BTS price decrease.  e.g for every X amount of BTS collateral you can acquire Y bitUSD. {Also you could buy any other bitAsset as well I suppose}

HOWEVER...this kind of arbitrage strategy would only be worthwhile if bitUSD is revived and normal operations (i.e borrowing) are resumed..

I believe that some combination of BTS, BTC, ETH, etc...price increase within an overall bullish cryptocurrency market environment that coincides with a sufficient number of successful bids during the auction of the settlement funds,(enough to surpass the 175% MCR). will trigger the revival of bitUSD.

Maybe someone can correct me..but I think the size of the settlement fund is about   $5.7m ?   so a few whales could help jump start the process without putting too much their assets at risk...maybe .01%

I hear Jeff Bezos' ex-wife has some surplus assets..maybe BM can persuade her to invest in BTS instead of another Sotheby's Auction..Ha!

Can someone explain the best way to "arb" this in terms of USD? I can just buy BTS, and sell on the BTS/USD market (for a higher price, in exchange for risk of holding BitUSD)?

Thanks for the response and the link to instructional video..Things are much clearer now..

I think I'm going to use a chunk of my income tax refund to invest in BTS,   ;D   The technology has got to be worth more than
a nickel and has more utility than "cryptoKitties"

This bear market.. just as much as a US government "partial" shutdown has to end sooner or later..

Given the outrageous prices of prescription medications in the USA...I've wondered why hasn't some entrepreneur developed
a dApp that would allow users to use bitUSD or other bitasset bitPeso etc. to pay to their regular online discount pharmacy..not only would they save money on drug prices but also transaction costs, FX fees, etc..and the pharmacies would save on costs as well..

I think this is the kind of "Use Case" that could raise BTS market profile to the level of prominence that BTC and ETH enjoy even though it's obvious they're use for consumer payments is limited by transaction speed..

Quote from: sschiessl on January 12, 2019, 11:51:08 PM
Have a look here, available since last release
https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/asset/USD

There is a new section in asset details that shows collateral bids, including doing a bid.

https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmU42kFBJu55co7ZfSpczrUA9Trcbf3oFWFooLR2tCguXM/collateral%20bid%20bitshares.gif

Have a look here, available since last release
https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/asset/USD

There is a new section in asset details that shows collateral bids, including doing a bid.

I will make you a video of how to do it in the GUI.

How can people participate in the revival if there isn't any way to access the bid mechanism thru the reference wallet GUI ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitShares/comments/a0i56y/detailed_explanation_of_bitshares_global/

"This operation is not present in GUI wallet right now, but can be done by using bid_collateral command in CLI wallet or constructing the operation manually."

There's no step by step instructions in the Tech Support section of the forum either..

i.e how to access,
...the command lines that one would use

Isn't this at least something the BitShares Foundation would do in the "Public interest"  or to at least spark more interest in BTS by regular traders, speculators or just average Jjoes willing to a gamble.??

or is this bitAsset revival limited to "BTS insiders"... How could a benevolent whale participate (if such a person exists!) even if he or she wanted to?

BitShares needs a marketing guru or a miracle worker..it seems..

Quote from: bitsharesbagholder on January 11, 2019, 08:58:48 PM
I'm not asking how it can be revived.
I'm asking what is being done to get it revived.

All of these accounts are bidding on the debt. That is actively trying for a solution. If you would like to contribute to the efforts, please put a bid on the debt.

Quote from: iamredbar on January 11, 2019, 08:34:25 PM
Inside of that Steemit link tells you how it can be revived. That is why xeroc posted it. There is also talk around here on different ways we can revive it quicker.

I'm not asking how it can be revived.
I'm asking what is being done to get it revived.

Inside of that Steemit link tells you how it can be revived. That is why xeroc posted it. There is also talk around here on different ways we can revive it quicker.

stop posting steem links as answers