Quote from: Bangzi on October 31, 2019, 01:48:41 AM
Can you approve Committee-account Proposal: 1.10.50903 to Create a new Worker "BAIP-Threshold"? Is one of the criteria to pass a BAIP(BitAssets Improvement Proposal)

https://github.com/bitshares/baips/blob/master/baip-0001.md

Hey Clockwork!

If you don't feel like approving this proposal, please don't do it. This gang comes witness by witness and member by member to try to force them into their agenda. But we are free men. We act out of our consciousnes as I am sure you will do in this case.

Can you approve Committee-account Proposal: 1.10.50903 to Create a new Worker "BAIP-Threshold"? Is one of the criteria to pass a BAIP(BitAssets Improvement Proposal)

https://github.com/bitshares/baips/blob/master/baip-0001.md

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 12:56:53 PM

"Fairness comes from the stakeholders ability to vote/unvote witnesses based on their perceived feeding performance."

This is a very wrong thought，"Fairness" come from the rule，then the stakeholder can judge which wittness didn't follow the rule.

The bitusd had destroyed by the GS, NOW the committee want to destroy the bitcny with settlement, excellent, just do want you want to do.

I see, NO ONE in the committee know the market.

That' all, end.

Quote from: clockwork on July 15, 2019, 09:38:39 AM

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 09:16:18 AM
I didn't find andy evidence to prove we have a "Much better feeding", settled volume can't prove it, as the offset is 2%.

I didn't find any rule of the feed price，the feed price still control by the witness, and i found we didn't have any method to deal with the witness like "verbaltech2" and the GS Protection.

Quote from: clockwork on July 15, 2019, 08:45:05 AM

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 08:31:21 AM

So， did we have a stable measure to solve this kind problem?

Quote from: clockwork on July 15, 2019, 08:26:08 AM

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 06:59:37 AM
You have support the: https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.38714

Give the reason!!!

I never agreed with raising the settlement offset in the first place and always thought all bitAssets should have the same one.

5% was supposed to only be a temporary measure in the first place.

Much better feeding....We've had wild swings on CEXs that did not affect the feed price like the case used to be which led to manipulation and abuse of the settlement mechanism.

A good proof of that is the fact that only 170 000 bitCNY has been settled over the last 6 months....That's a grand total of less than 25k USD over SIX months.

If you think this makes any real difference in the market, you're looking at the wrong place.

If you don't think we have better feeding then you probably don't remember what was happening due to odd CMC , poloniex etc prices back when the offset was changed to 5%

I heard the same argument about settled volume not proving anything when we went from 5% to 2% as well... But nothing changed.

There are not supposed to be any rules and the price IS supposed to be chosen by the witnesses themselves. Fairness comes from the stakeholders ability to vote/unvote witnesses based on their perceived feeding performance.

anything else is more centralized and completely defeats the purpose of having the witness fed system in place

Then where is that rule ? Show me whitepaper, docs or Bytemaster's statement (who originally started this all mess without rules or proper governance/limits) and we will follow it. Or you want me to educate you on basic principles and logic of BitShares blockchain ?

"Fairness comes from the stakeholders ability to vote/unvote witnesses based on their perceived feeding performance."

This is a very wrong thought，"Fairness" come from the rule，then the stakeholder can judge which wittness didn't follow the rule.

The bitusd had destroyed by the GS, NOW the committee want to destroy the bitcny with settlement, excellent, just do want you want to do.

I see, NO ONE in the committee know the market.

That' all, end.

Quote from: clockwork on July 15, 2019, 09:38:39 AM

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 09:16:18 AM
I didn't find andy evidence to prove we have a "Much better feeding", settled volume can't prove it, as the offset is 2%.

I didn't find any rule of the feed price，the feed price still control by the witness, and i found we didn't have any method to deal with the witness like "verbaltech2" and the GS Protection.

Quote from: clockwork on July 15, 2019, 08:45:05 AM

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 08:31:21 AM

So， did we have a stable measure to solve this kind problem?

Quote from: clockwork on July 15, 2019, 08:26:08 AM

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 06:59:37 AM
You have support the: https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.38714

Give the reason!!!

I never agreed with raising the settlement offset in the first place and always thought all bitAssets should have the same one.

5% was supposed to only be a temporary measure in the first place.

Much better feeding....We've had wild swings on CEXs that did not affect the feed price like the case used to be which led to manipulation and abuse of the settlement mechanism.

A good proof of that is the fact that only 170 000 bitCNY has been settled over the last 6 months....That's a grand total of less than 25k USD over SIX months.

If you think this makes any real difference in the market, you're looking at the wrong place.

If you don't think we have better feeding then you probably don't remember what was happening due to odd CMC , poloniex etc prices back when the offset was changed to 5%

I heard the same argument about settled volume not proving anything when we went from 5% to 2% as well... But nothing changed.

There are not supposed to be any rules and the price IS supposed to be chosen by the witnesses themselves. Fairness comes from the stakeholders ability to vote/unvote witnesses based on their perceived feeding performance.

anything else is more centralized and completely defeats the purpose of having the witness fed system in place

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 09:16:18 AM
I didn't find andy evidence to prove we have a "Much better feeding", settled volume can't prove it, as the offset is 2%.

I didn't find any rule of the feed price，the feed price still control by the witness, and i found we didn't have any method to deal with the witness like "verbaltech2" and the GS Protection.

Quote from: clockwork on July 15, 2019, 08:45:05 AM

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 08:31:21 AM

So， did we have a stable measure to solve this kind problem?

Quote from: clockwork on July 15, 2019, 08:26:08 AM

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 06:59:37 AM
You have support the: https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.38714

Give the reason!!!

I never agreed with raising the settlement offset in the first place and always thought all bitAssets should have the same one.

5% was supposed to only be a temporary measure in the first place.

Much better feeding....We've had wild swings on CEXs that did not affect the feed price like the case used to be which led to manipulation and abuse of the settlement mechanism.

A good proof of that is the fact that only 170 000 bitCNY has been settled over the last 6 months....That's a grand total of less than 25k USD over SIX months.

If you think this makes any real difference in the market, you're looking at the wrong place.

If you don't think we have better feeding then you probably don't remember what was happening due to odd CMC , poloniex etc prices back when the offset was changed to 5%

I heard the same argument about settled volume not proving anything when we went from 5% to 2% as well... But nothing changed.

There are not supposed to be any rules and the price IS supposed to be chosen by the witnesses themselves. Fairness comes from the stakeholders ability to vote/unvote witnesses based on their perceived feeding performance.

anything else is more centralized and completely defeats the purpose of having the witness fed system in place

I didn't find andy evidence to prove we have a "Much better feeding", settled volume can't prove it, as the offset is 2%.

I didn't find any rule of the feed price，the feed price still control by the witness, and i found we didn't have any method to deal with the witness like "verbaltech2" and the GS Protection.

Quote from: clockwork on July 15, 2019, 08:45:05 AM

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 08:31:21 AM

So， did we have a stable measure to solve this kind problem?

Quote from: clockwork on July 15, 2019, 08:26:08 AM

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 06:59:37 AM
You have support the: https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.38714

Give the reason!!!

I never agreed with raising the settlement offset in the first place and always thought all bitAssets should have the same one.

5% was supposed to only be a temporary measure in the first place.

Much better feeding....We've had wild swings on CEXs that did not affect the feed price like the case used to be which led to manipulation and abuse of the settlement mechanism.

A good proof of that is the fact that only 170 000 bitCNY has been settled over the last 6 months....That's a grand total of less than 25k USD over SIX months.

If you think this makes any real difference in the market, you're looking at the wrong place.

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 08:31:21 AM

So， did we have a stable measure to solve this kind problem?

Quote from: clockwork on July 15, 2019, 08:26:08 AM

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 06:59:37 AM
You have support the: https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.38714

Give the reason!!!

I never agreed with raising the settlement offset in the first place and always thought all bitAssets should have the same one.

5% was supposed to only be a temporary measure in the first place.

Much better feeding....We've had wild swings on CEXs that did not affect the feed price like the case used to be which led to manipulation and abuse of the settlement mechanism.

A good proof of that is the fact that only 170 000 bitCNY has been settled over the last 6 months....That's a grand total of less than 25k USD over SIX months.

If you think this makes any real difference in the market, you're looking at the wrong place.

So， did we have a stable measure to solve this kind problem?

Quote from: clockwork on July 15, 2019, 08:26:08 AM

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 06:59:37 AM
You have support the: https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.38714

Give the reason!!!

I never agreed with raising the settlement offset in the first place and always thought all bitAssets should have the same one.

5% was supposed to only be a temporary measure in the first place.

Quote from: binggo on July 15, 2019, 06:59:37 AM
You have support the: https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.38714

Give the reason!!!

I never agreed with raising the settlement offset in the first place and always thought all bitAssets should have the same one.

5% was supposed to only be a temporary measure in the first place.

You have support the: https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.38714

Give the reason!!!

Please Unvote 9 Witnesses that have No Feed Global Protection for BitUSD.

liondani, verbaltech2, delegate-1.lafona, xn-delegate, abc123, xman, fox, roelandp, in.abit

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28662.msg332430;topicseen#msg332430

Please unvote these witnesses! These witnesses have not yet changed the MCR to 1.6, and they do not follow community consensus!

delegate-1.lafona
blckchnd
openledger-dc
verbaltech2

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28399.0

Thanks

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Thanks to everyone voting for me so far!

Some of you I've already spoken to.

Anyone else wanting to discuss my proposal or anything else bitshares related, please reach out to me here, or telegram in the Bitshares DEX group (my handle is @clockworkgr), or Bitshares Discord (handle Clockwork).

In a shameless bit of self-promotion, I have started up a series of educational bitshares-promoting articles on steemit. Here are the first three so far:

https://steemit.com/bitshares/@clockwork/account-model-wallet-model-and-security-on-the-dex-part-1-of-2

https://steemit.com/bitshares/@clockwork/cex-vs-dex-by-example

https://steemit.com/bitshares/@clockwork/account-model-wallet-model-and-security-on-the-dex-part-2-of-2-multisig

Any comments or suggestions are more than welcome!