[Committee Member] - binggo's proposal to join the bitshares committee/理事会申请

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#19
August 20, 2020, 03:13:48 AM Last Edit: August 20, 2020, 11:32:14 PM by binggo
更新一下，因为有新提案冒出来了:

第一种情况：BAIP所有的提案严格按照所谓的"社区共识"来卡的话，所有BAIP提案都没有效力，因为社区从来就没有对一个BAIP提案如何生效进行过广泛且详细的讨论与论证，并且进行广泛的社区参与投票以使其生效，所以我作为一个临时理事，不会对任何BAIP做批准操作.


第二种情况：很多人认为理事可以有独断专行权，可以不遵循这个"社区共识"，所以我选择不批准，理由如下：

社区很多人希望提高强清补偿，这当然也包括我，但是我的方案是有前提条件的，1.解喂价，2.恢复喂价的相关灵敏度。3.综合费率应最少到5%.，不然单单提高强清补偿并没有太大的意义，虽然可以保护一些保守抵押者，但是同时会带来在锁定喂价情况下严重的贴线抵押反扑，套利手段只有你想不到，没有做不到。

而我感觉我应该是可以在这两种共识之间选择来回摆动的~~），全是NO

对于biteur，我的观点是如最最上面对强清的看法，对于bts这个治理与认识乱像，一步到位远远好过蜗牛爬，一个2%补偿的bitcny都被清的哭爹喊娘，何况再来一个2%的biteur有何意义？！~都不带想想的吗？


事情嘛就是这个事，以前我也提过强清补偿的理事提案，但是仔细想想，在前提大条件没有实现的情况下，弊远大于利。


而且现在这几个提案参数设置的如此这样，很明显不是为了解决强清问题来的，是为了从强清身上捞一把油水来的...再形象一点的比喻就是：村里的百姓被土匪恶霸鱼肉的死去活来的时候，官府这时候不仅不想解决土匪恶霸，反而设立了一个土匪恶霸税...


binggo

#18
August 16, 2020, 10:58:20 AM
QuoteAgree on point one that 1% is to low

Is point 2 about margin call fee?

Yes, all were too low

Thul3

#17
August 16, 2020, 10:49:15 AM
Quote from: binggo on August 16, 2020, 10:34:06 AM
Quote from: abit on August 16, 2020, 10:06:54 AM
我觉得强清费和爆仓费的提案可以批。资金相关的可以缓缓。


如果不是被赶上来的，我实在是不想对强清费与爆仓费做任何评论。

既然问了，我就说我的看法;

1.强清费：我对强清费是持反对意见的，即使折衷一下的话：强清补偿+强清费至少需要不低于5%.

原因是5%提供的适当的折价空间与fomo情绪可以作为后续爆仓的缓冲垫，5%的折价空间也可以给市场带来更多的流动性套利空间，再者市场也维持不了5%的折价太长时间，当然这是要在喂价正常的情况下，合约市场都会有升贴水，这个市场也是一个样，整个17年牛市与18年，在5%补偿情况下，没有人抱怨过折价问题，也没有强清问题，全在抱怨高昂的入场费率，至于化解什么风险，太扯犊子了，MCR是干什么的...资金应当是在市场里转来转去，而不是无限收割抵押

2.爆仓费：收的太低没有意义，作为流动性罚金，起码也要10%起步...低了大家爆着玩，都拿自己的仓位不当回事，没有爆仓费的分享与解冻功能太过于遗憾，本来是可以用此激发一些吃单积极性...

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说不准，过两天就下去了呢，说这些也没有太大的意义, 城头变幻大王旗


Agree on point one that 1% is to low

Is point 2 about margin call fee?

binggo

#16
August 16, 2020, 10:34:06 AM Last Edit: August 20, 2020, 03:13:23 AM by binggo
Quote from: abit on August 16, 2020, 10:06:54 AM
我觉得强清费和爆仓费的提案可以批。资金相关的可以缓缓。


如果不是被赶上来的，我实在是不想对强清费与爆仓费做任何评论。

既然问了，我就说我的看法;

1.强清费：我对强清费是持反对意见的，即使折衷一下的话：强清补偿+强清费至少需要不低于5%.

原因是5%提供的适当的折价空间与fomo情绪可以作为后续爆仓的缓冲垫，5%的折价空间也可以给市场带来更多的流动性套利空间，再者市场也维持不了5%的折价太长时间，当然这是要在喂价正常的情况下，合约市场都会有升贴水，这个市场也是一个样，整个17年牛市与18年，在5%补偿情况下，没有人抱怨过折价问题，也没有强清问题，全在抱怨高昂的入场费率，至于化解什么风险，太扯犊子了，MCR是干什么的...资金应当是在市场里转来转去，而不是无限收割抵押

2.爆仓费：收的太低没有意义，作为流动性罚金，起码也要10%起步...我们有小弟makrdao可以参照，低了大家爆着玩，都拿自己的仓位不当回事，没有爆仓费的分享与解冻功能太过于遗憾，本来是可以用此激发一些吃单积极性...

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说不准，过两天就下去了呢，说这些也没有太大的意义, 城头变幻大王旗

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更新一下:

第一种情况：BAIP所有的提案严格按照所谓的"社区共识"来卡的话，所有BAIP提案都没有效力，因为社区从来就没有对一个BAIP提案如何生效进行过广泛且详细的讨论与论证，并且进行广泛的社区参与投票以使其生效，所以我作为一个临时理事，不会对任何BAIP做批准操作.


第二种情况：很多人认为理事可以有独断专行权，可以不遵循这个"社区共识"，但是我还是选择不批准，理由如下：

社区很多人希望提高强清补偿，这当然也包括我，但是我的方案是有前提条件的，1.解喂价，2.恢复喂价的相关灵敏度。，不然单单提高强清补偿并没有太大的意义，虽然可以保护一些保守抵押者，但是同时会带来在锁定喂价情况下严重的贴线抵押反扑。

而我感觉我应该是可以在这两种共识之间选择来回摆动的~~）

对于biteur，我的观点是如最最上面对强清的看法，对于bts这个治理情况，一步到位远远好过蜗牛爬，一个2%补偿的bitcny都被清的哭爹喊娘，何况再来一个2%的biteur有何意义？！~都不带想想的吗？


事情嘛就是这个事，以前我也提过强清补偿的理事提案，但是仔细想想，在前提大条件没有实现的情况下，弊远大于利。



abit

#15
August 16, 2020, 10:06:54 AM
我觉得强清费和爆仓费的提案可以批。资金相关的可以缓缓。
BitShares committee member: abit
BitShares witness: in.abit

binggo

#14
August 16, 2020, 10:04:40 AM

.............

As a temporary committe member, i will not approve any proposal for this moment.

作为一名临时(被赶上架子的）理事会成员，这个时候我不会批准任何提案...

...

世间安得两全法,不负如来不负卿

Thul3

#13
April 02, 2020, 07:44:02 PM Last Edit: April 02, 2020, 08:06:20 PM by Thul3
Added my vote back to you.


Hope you come back to committee to get the activity and logic thinking back there

Don't let them take full control!

binggo

#12
March 03, 2020, 05:24:30 PM Last Edit: March 03, 2020, 05:32:54 PM by binggo
CLOSED.

SUPPORTERS, please remove your vote from me, thanks.

and i will not respond anything from now，i have known the situation of the committee,  vacate the position to other who want to sit.
--_

帖子关闭。

请移除投票。

从现在开始不再做任何回应。我已经清楚理事会里面是怎么回事了，筹码请各自关心，茅坑也就不蹲着占地方了，留给有责任，有能力，有影响的人来坐。

谢谢。

abit

#11
February 19, 2020, 07:01:41 PM
Quote from: binggo on February 19, 2020, 01:34:05 PM
[Committee Proposal]
https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.57236

I need a public discussion for this if it is not very emergent.

如果这个理事会提案不是那么紧急的话，我需要一个公开讨论来决定，以避免可能出现的问题与纠纷。


Code Select
BTS-RFC 1.10.57236

------------------------------------------------------------------------

*Review Period*: Fri Feb 21, 2020 14:45 - 15:45
Review begins in 2 days

{
  "proposer": "1.2.12376",
  "fail_reason": ""
}

------------------------------------------------------------------------


        Proposed change to blockchain parameters

All *BTS* amounts below have been scaled for ease of comparison.

  * {
  *   "current_fees": {
  *     "parameters": {
  *       "transfer[0]": {
  *         "fee": "0.869 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "limit_order_create[1]": {
  *         "fee": "0.0483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "limit_order_cancel[2]": {
  *         "fee": "0.00482 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "call_order_update[3]": {
  *
            "fee": "0.0483 BTS"

  *
            "fee": "0.483 BTS"

  *       },
  *       "fill_order[4]": {
  *       },
  *       "account_create[5]": {
  *         "basic_fee": "4.83 BTS",
  *         "premium_fee": "241.3 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "account_update[6]": {
  *         "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "account_whitelist[7]": {
  *         "fee": "4.83 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "account_upgrade[8]": {
  *         "membership_annual_fee": "4,777,833,291 BTS",
  *         "membership_lifetime_fee": "5,791 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "account_transfer[9]": {
  *         "fee": "241.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_create[10]": {
  *         "symbol3": "386,088 BTS",
  *         "symbol4": "96,522 BTS",
  *         "long_symbol": "2,413 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_update[11]": {
  *         "fee": "96.5 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_update_bitasset[12]": {
  *         "fee": "241.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_update_feed_producers[13]": {
  *         "fee": "241.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_issue[14]": {
  *         "fee": "0.869 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_reserve[15]": {
  *         "fee": "0.0483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_fund_fee_pool[16]": {
  *         "fee": "24.13 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_settle[17]": {
  *
            "fee": "2.413 BTS"

  *
            "fee": "9.65 BTS"

  *       },
  *       "asset_global_settle[18]": {
  *         "fee": "241.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_publish_feed[19]": {
  *         "fee": "0.00482 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "witness_create[20]": {
  *         "fee": "2,413 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "witness_update[21]": {
  *         "fee": "0.483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "proposal_create[22]": {
  *         "fee": "9.65 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "2.413 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "proposal_update[23]": {
  *         "fee": "0.2413 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "proposal_delete[24]": {
  *         "fee": "0 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "withdraw_permission_create[25]": {
  *         "fee": "7.24 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "withdraw_permission_update[26]": {
  *         "fee": "0.483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "withdraw_permission_claim[27]": {
  *         "fee": "0.695 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "withdraw_permission_delete[28]": {
  *         "fee": "0 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "committee_member_create[29]": {
  *         "fee": "241.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "committee_member_update[30]": {
  *         "fee": "483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "committee_member_update_global_parameters[31]": {
  *         "fee": "0 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "vesting_balance_create[32]": {
  *         "fee": "4.83 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "vesting_balance_withdraw[33]": {
  *         "fee": "4.83 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "worker_create[34]": {
  *         "fee": "2,413 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "custom[35]": {
  *         "fee": "0.483 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "2.413 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "assert[36]": {
  *         "fee": "24.13 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "balance_claim[37]": {
  *       },
  *       "override_transfer[38]": {
  *         "fee": "48.3 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "transfer_to_blind[39]": {
  *         "fee": "10.13 BTS",
  *         "price_per_output": "3.38 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "transfer_from_blind[41]": {
  *         "fee": "10.13 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_claim_fees_operation[43]": {
  *         "fee": "48.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "[44]": {
  *       },
  *       "[45]": {
  *
            "fee": "0.0483 BTS"

  *
            "fee": "0.483 BTS"

  *       },
  *       "[46]": {
  *       },
  *       "[47]": {
  *         "fee": "241.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "[48]": {
  *         "fee": "483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "[49]": {
  *         "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
  *         "fee_per_day": "1.593 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "[50]": {
  *         "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
  *         "fee_per_kb": "4.83 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "[52]": {
  *         "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
  *         "fee_per_day": "1.593 BTS"
  *       }
  *     },
  *     "scale": 10000
  *   },
  *   "block_interval": 3,
  *   "maintenance_interval": 3600,
  *   "maintenance_skip_slots": 3,
  *   "committee_proposal_review_period": 3600,
  *   "maximum_transaction_size": 409600,
  *   "maximum_block_size": 2000000,
  *   "maximum_time_until_expiration": 86400,
  *   "maximum_proposal_lifetime": 2419200,
  *   "maximum_asset_whitelist_authorities": 10,
  *   "maximum_asset_feed_publishers": 25,
  *   "maximum_witness_count": 1001,
  *   "maximum_committee_count": 1001,
  *   "maximum_authority_membership": 10,
  *   "reserve_percent_of_fee": 2000,
  *   "network_percent_of_fee": 2000,
  *   "lifetime_referrer_percent_of_fee": 3000,
  *   "cashback_vesting_period_seconds": 7776000,
  *   "cashback_vesting_threshold": 10000000,
  *   "count_non_member_votes": true,
  *   "allow_non_member_whitelists": false,
  *   "witness_pay_per_block": 100000,
  *   "worker_budget_per_day": "50000000000",
  *   "max_predicate_opcode": 1,
  *   "fee_liquidation_threshold": 10000000,
  *   "accounts_per_fee_scale": 1000,
  *   "account_fee_scale_bitshifts": 0,
  *   "max_authority_depth": 2,
  *   "extensions": {
  *     "updatable_htlc_options": {
  *       "max_timeout_secs": 2592000,
  *       "max_preimage_size": 10240
  *     }
  *   }
  * }
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=32136.0
BitShares committee member: abit
BitShares witness: in.abit

binggo

#10
February 19, 2020, 01:34:05 PM Last Edit: February 19, 2020, 11:59:49 PM by binggo
Approve

Reason：This is more flat, we can try it, maybe we will lower the force-settlement fee in the further if we get more feedbacks from Prediction Market Assets.

Prediction Market Assets is a something like Contract Market, it should need an applicable fee and threshold.

通过.

理由: 这个提案相对平滑, 未尝不可, 将来如果我们能从预测市场得到更多反馈的话,适当降低强清费用也是合适的.

强清市场是有点类似于合约市场, 有高杠杆性, 需要合适的费用及门槛.
-------------------------
[Committee Proposal]
https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.57236

I need a public discussion for this if it is not very emergent.

如果这个理事会提案不是那么紧急的话，我需要一个公开讨论来决定，以避免可能出现的问题与纠纷。


Code Select
BTS-RFC 1.10.57236

------------------------------------------------------------------------

*Review Period*: Fri Feb 21, 2020 14:45 - 15:45
Review begins in 2 days

{
  "proposer": "1.2.12376",
  "fail_reason": ""
}

------------------------------------------------------------------------


        Proposed change to blockchain parameters

All *BTS* amounts below have been scaled for ease of comparison.

  * {
  *   "current_fees": {
  *     "parameters": {
  *       "transfer[0]": {
  *         "fee": "0.869 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "limit_order_create[1]": {
  *         "fee": "0.0483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "limit_order_cancel[2]": {
  *         "fee": "0.00482 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "call_order_update[3]": {
  *
            "fee": "0.0483 BTS"

  *
            "fee": "0.483 BTS"

  *       },
  *       "fill_order[4]": {
  *       },
  *       "account_create[5]": {
  *         "basic_fee": "4.83 BTS",
  *         "premium_fee": "241.3 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "account_update[6]": {
  *         "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "account_whitelist[7]": {
  *         "fee": "4.83 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "account_upgrade[8]": {
  *         "membership_annual_fee": "4,777,833,291 BTS",
  *         "membership_lifetime_fee": "5,791 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "account_transfer[9]": {
  *         "fee": "241.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_create[10]": {
  *         "symbol3": "386,088 BTS",
  *         "symbol4": "96,522 BTS",
  *         "long_symbol": "2,413 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_update[11]": {
  *         "fee": "96.5 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_update_bitasset[12]": {
  *         "fee": "241.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_update_feed_producers[13]": {
  *         "fee": "241.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_issue[14]": {
  *         "fee": "0.869 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_reserve[15]": {
  *         "fee": "0.0483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_fund_fee_pool[16]": {
  *         "fee": "24.13 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_settle[17]": {
  *
            "fee": "2.413 BTS"

  *
            "fee": "9.65 BTS"

  *       },
  *       "asset_global_settle[18]": {
  *         "fee": "241.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_publish_feed[19]": {
  *         "fee": "0.00482 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "witness_create[20]": {
  *         "fee": "2,413 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "witness_update[21]": {
  *         "fee": "0.483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "proposal_create[22]": {
  *         "fee": "9.65 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "2.413 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "proposal_update[23]": {
  *         "fee": "0.2413 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "proposal_delete[24]": {
  *         "fee": "0 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "withdraw_permission_create[25]": {
  *         "fee": "7.24 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "withdraw_permission_update[26]": {
  *         "fee": "0.483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "withdraw_permission_claim[27]": {
  *         "fee": "0.695 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "withdraw_permission_delete[28]": {
  *         "fee": "0 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "committee_member_create[29]": {
  *         "fee": "241.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "committee_member_update[30]": {
  *         "fee": "483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "committee_member_update_global_parameters[31]": {
  *         "fee": "0 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "vesting_balance_create[32]": {
  *         "fee": "4.83 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "vesting_balance_withdraw[33]": {
  *         "fee": "4.83 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "worker_create[34]": {
  *         "fee": "2,413 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "custom[35]": {
  *         "fee": "0.483 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "2.413 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "assert[36]": {
  *         "fee": "24.13 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "balance_claim[37]": {
  *       },
  *       "override_transfer[38]": {
  *         "fee": "48.3 BTS",
  *         "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "transfer_to_blind[39]": {
  *         "fee": "10.13 BTS",
  *         "price_per_output": "3.38 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "transfer_from_blind[41]": {
  *         "fee": "10.13 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "asset_claim_fees_operation[43]": {
  *         "fee": "48.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "[44]": {
  *       },
  *       "[45]": {
  *
            "fee": "0.0483 BTS"

  *
            "fee": "0.483 BTS"

  *       },
  *       "[46]": {
  *       },
  *       "[47]": {
  *         "fee": "241.3 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "[48]": {
  *         "fee": "483 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "[49]": {
  *         "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
  *         "fee_per_day": "1.593 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "[50]": {
  *         "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
  *         "fee_per_kb": "4.83 BTS"
  *       },
  *       "[52]": {
  *         "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
  *         "fee_per_day": "1.593 BTS"
  *       }
  *     },
  *     "scale": 10000
  *   },
  *   "block_interval": 3,
  *   "maintenance_interval": 3600,
  *   "maintenance_skip_slots": 3,
  *   "committee_proposal_review_period": 3600,
  *   "maximum_transaction_size": 409600,
  *   "maximum_block_size": 2000000,
  *   "maximum_time_until_expiration": 86400,
  *   "maximum_proposal_lifetime": 2419200,
  *   "maximum_asset_whitelist_authorities": 10,
  *   "maximum_asset_feed_publishers": 25,
  *   "maximum_witness_count": 1001,
  *   "maximum_committee_count": 1001,
  *   "maximum_authority_membership": 10,
  *   "reserve_percent_of_fee": 2000,
  *   "network_percent_of_fee": 2000,
  *   "lifetime_referrer_percent_of_fee": 3000,
  *   "cashback_vesting_period_seconds": 7776000,
  *   "cashback_vesting_threshold": 10000000,
  *   "count_non_member_votes": true,
  *   "allow_non_member_whitelists": false,
  *   "witness_pay_per_block": 100000,
  *   "worker_budget_per_day": "50000000000",
  *   "max_predicate_opcode": 1,
  *   "fee_liquidation_threshold": 10000000,
  *   "accounts_per_fee_scale": 1000,
  *   "account_fee_scale_bitshifts": 0,
  *   "max_authority_depth": 2,
  *   "extensions": {
  *     "updatable_htlc_options": {
  *       "max_timeout_secs": 2592000,
  *       "max_preimage_size": 10240
  *     }
  *   }
  * }

sschiessl

#9
February 17, 2020, 08:02:45 AM
Quote from: binggo on February 16, 2020, 11:31:39 PM


-------------------------------
[Committee Proposal] Set asset_settle fee from 2.413 BTS to 1,000 BTS.

https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.57202

I will give the decision and why later.

Listening...
---------------------
[理事会提案] 设置强清手续费从2.413 BTS到 1,000 BTS.

https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.57202

Code Select
  BTS-RFC 1.10.57202

Review Period: Wed Feb 19, 2020 22:55 - 23:55
Review begins 2020-02-19T22:55:00+00:00

{
  "proposer": "1.2.12376",
  "fail_reason": ""
}

Proposed change to blockchain parameters

All BTS amounts below have been scaled for ease of comparison.

    {
    "current_fees": {
    "parameters": {
    "transfer[0]": {
    "fee": "0.869 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.483 BTS"
    },
    "limit_order_create[1]": {
    "fee": "0.0483 BTS"
    },
    "limit_order_cancel[2]": {
    "fee": "0.00482 BTS"
    },
    "call_order_update[3]": {
    "fee": "0.0483 BTS"
    },
    "fill_order[4]": {
    },
    "account_create[5]": {
    "basic_fee": "4.83 BTS",
    "premium_fee": "241.3 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
    },
    "account_update[6]": {
    "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
    },
    "account_whitelist[7]": {
    "fee": "4.83 BTS"
    },
    "account_upgrade[8]": {
    "membership_annual_fee": "4,777,833,291 BTS",
    "membership_lifetime_fee": "5,791 BTS"
    },
    "account_transfer[9]": {
    "fee": "241.3 BTS"
    },
    "asset_create[10]": {
    "symbol3": "386,088 BTS",
    "symbol4": "96,522 BTS",
    "long_symbol": "2,413 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.483 BTS"
    },
    "asset_update[11]": {
    "fee": "96.5 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
    },
    "asset_update_bitasset[12]": {
    "fee": "241.3 BTS"
    },
    "asset_update_feed_producers[13]": {
    "fee": "241.3 BTS"
    },
    "asset_issue[14]": {
    "fee": "0.869 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.483 BTS"
    },
    "asset_reserve[15]": {
    "fee": "0.0483 BTS"
    },
    "asset_fund_fee_pool[16]": {
    "fee": "24.13 BTS"
    },
    "asset_settle[17]": {
    "fee": "2.413 BTS"
    "fee": "1,000 BTS"
    },
    "asset_global_settle[18]": {
    "fee": "241.3 BTS"
    },
    "asset_publish_feed[19]": {
    "fee": "0.00482 BTS"
    },
    "witness_create[20]": {
    "fee": "2,413 BTS"
    },
    "witness_update[21]": {
    "fee": "0.483 BTS"
    },
    "proposal_create[22]": {
    "fee": "9.65 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "2.413 BTS"
    },
    "proposal_update[23]": {
    "fee": "0.2413 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
    },
    "proposal_delete[24]": {
    "fee": "0 BTS"
    },
    "withdraw_permission_create[25]": {
    "fee": "7.24 BTS"
    },
    "withdraw_permission_update[26]": {
    "fee": "0.483 BTS"
    },
    "withdraw_permission_claim[27]": {
    "fee": "0.695 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
    },
    "withdraw_permission_delete[28]": {
    "fee": "0 BTS"
    },
    "committee_member_create[29]": {
    "fee": "241.3 BTS"
    },
    "committee_member_update[30]": {
    "fee": "483 BTS"
    },
    "committee_member_update_global_parameters[31]": {
    "fee": "0 BTS"
    },
    "vesting_balance_create[32]": {
    "fee": "4.83 BTS"
    },
    "vesting_balance_withdraw[33]": {
    "fee": "4.83 BTS"
    },
    "worker_create[34]": {
    "fee": "2,413 BTS"
    },
    "custom[35]": {
    "fee": "0.483 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "2.413 BTS"
    },
    "assert[36]": {
    "fee": "24.13 BTS"
    },
    "balance_claim[37]": {
    },
    "override_transfer[38]": {
    "fee": "48.3 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
    },
    "transfer_to_blind[39]": {
    "fee": "10.13 BTS",
    "price_per_output": "3.38 BTS"
    },
    "transfer_from_blind[41]": {
    "fee": "10.13 BTS"
    },
    "asset_claim_fees_operation[43]": {
    "fee": "48.3 BTS"
    },
    "[44]": {
    },
    "[45]": {
    "fee": "0.0483 BTS"
    },
    "[46]": {
    },
    "[47]": {
    "fee": "241.3 BTS"
    },
    "[48]": {
    "fee": "483 BTS"
    },
    "[49]": {
    "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
    "fee_per_day": "1.593 BTS"
    },
    "[50]": {
    "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
    "fee_per_kb": "4.83 BTS"
    },
    "[52]": {
    "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
    "fee_per_day": "1.593 BTS"
    }
    },
    "scale": 10000
    },
    "block_interval": 3,
    "maintenance_interval": 3600,
    "maintenance_skip_slots": 3,
    "committee_proposal_review_period": 3600,
    "maximum_transaction_size": 409600,
    "maximum_block_size": 2000000,
    "maximum_time_until_expiration": 86400,
    "maximum_proposal_lifetime": 2419200,
    "maximum_asset_whitelist_authorities": 10,
    "maximum_asset_feed_publishers": 25,
    "maximum_witness_count": 1001,
    "maximum_committee_count": 1001,
    "maximum_authority_membership": 10,
    "reserve_percent_of_fee": 2000,
    "network_percent_of_fee": 2000,
    "lifetime_referrer_percent_of_fee": 3000,
    "cashback_vesting_period_seconds": 7776000,
    "cashback_vesting_threshold": 10000000,
    "count_non_member_votes": true,
    "allow_non_member_whitelists": false,
    "witness_pay_per_block": 100000,
    "worker_budget_per_day": "50000000000",
    "max_predicate_opcode": 1,
    "fee_liquidation_threshold": 10000000,
    "accounts_per_fee_scale": 1000,
    "account_fee_scale_bitshifts": 0,
    "max_authority_depth": 2,
    "extensions": {
    "updatable_htlc_options": {
    "max_timeout_secs": 2592000,
    "max_preimage_size": 10240
    }
    }
    }



            
btcbchbts    0.260201   444824.5045   115744   2020/2/17 9:10
hangjun-btss    0.260201   384317.5495   100000   2020/2/17 11:06
bts-ydy8    0.260201   307454.0396   80000   2020/2/17 22:23
yinchg    0.260201   188546.1898   49060   2020/2/18 0:51
hakuku-findom    0.260201   153727.0198   40000   2020/2/18 6:42
yykxuxu830905    0.260201   141113.7178   36718   2020/2/17 22:21
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:38
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:44
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:45
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:48
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:55
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:57
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:59
love8zf02    0.260201   76863.50991   20000   2020/2/17 9:42
anbi    0.260201   38431.72075   9999.9911   2020/2/17 17:19
yutaoweishan1    0.260201   7993.805031   2080   2020/2/18 7:36
fengshen123456    0.260201   48.424011   12.6   2020/2/17 9:21


LTM just need pay 1000*0.02=200 BTS.

at least to settle: 100,000 bts
make sure the profits：0.4%

What is the reasoning for it? I can't follow what you have laid out above.

binggo

#8
February 16, 2020, 11:31:39 PM Last Edit: February 17, 2020, 08:50:27 AM by binggo
Disapprove

Reason： This is a global parameters, will harm other users of BTS, like Prediction Market Assets. We can't do this.

不同意。

理由：这是一个全局参数，会伤害BTS的其他用户，比如 预测市场的用户，他们需要清算结束预测。我们不能跟BM一样，牺牲2%而保全经济。


-------------------------------
[Committee Proposal] Set asset_settle fee from 2.413 BTS to 1,000 BTS.

https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.57202

I will give the decision and why later.

Listening...
---------------------
[理事会提案] 设置强清手续费从2.413 BTS到 1,000 BTS.

https://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.57202

Code Select
  BTS-RFC 1.10.57202

Review Period: Wed Feb 19, 2020 22:55 - 23:55
Review begins 2020-02-19T22:55:00+00:00

{
  "proposer": "1.2.12376",
  "fail_reason": ""
}

Proposed change to blockchain parameters

All BTS amounts below have been scaled for ease of comparison.

    {
    "current_fees": {
    "parameters": {
    "transfer[0]": {
    "fee": "0.869 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.483 BTS"
    },
    "limit_order_create[1]": {
    "fee": "0.0483 BTS"
    },
    "limit_order_cancel[2]": {
    "fee": "0.00482 BTS"
    },
    "call_order_update[3]": {
    "fee": "0.0483 BTS"
    },
    "fill_order[4]": {
    },
    "account_create[5]": {
    "basic_fee": "4.83 BTS",
    "premium_fee": "241.3 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
    },
    "account_update[6]": {
    "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
    },
    "account_whitelist[7]": {
    "fee": "4.83 BTS"
    },
    "account_upgrade[8]": {
    "membership_annual_fee": "4,777,833,291 BTS",
    "membership_lifetime_fee": "5,791 BTS"
    },
    "account_transfer[9]": {
    "fee": "241.3 BTS"
    },
    "asset_create[10]": {
    "symbol3": "386,088 BTS",
    "symbol4": "96,522 BTS",
    "long_symbol": "2,413 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.483 BTS"
    },
    "asset_update[11]": {
    "fee": "96.5 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
    },
    "asset_update_bitasset[12]": {
    "fee": "241.3 BTS"
    },
    "asset_update_feed_producers[13]": {
    "fee": "241.3 BTS"
    },
    "asset_issue[14]": {
    "fee": "0.869 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.483 BTS"
    },
    "asset_reserve[15]": {
    "fee": "0.0483 BTS"
    },
    "asset_fund_fee_pool[16]": {
    "fee": "24.13 BTS"
    },
    "asset_settle[17]": {
    "fee": "2.413 BTS"
    "fee": "1,000 BTS"
    },
    "asset_global_settle[18]": {
    "fee": "241.3 BTS"
    },
    "asset_publish_feed[19]": {
    "fee": "0.00482 BTS"
    },
    "witness_create[20]": {
    "fee": "2,413 BTS"
    },
    "witness_update[21]": {
    "fee": "0.483 BTS"
    },
    "proposal_create[22]": {
    "fee": "9.65 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "2.413 BTS"
    },
    "proposal_update[23]": {
    "fee": "0.2413 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
    },
    "proposal_delete[24]": {
    "fee": "0 BTS"
    },
    "withdraw_permission_create[25]": {
    "fee": "7.24 BTS"
    },
    "withdraw_permission_update[26]": {
    "fee": "0.483 BTS"
    },
    "withdraw_permission_claim[27]": {
    "fee": "0.695 BTS",
    "price_per_kbyte": "0.338 BTS"
    },
    "withdraw_permission_delete[28]": {
    "fee": "0 BTS"
    },
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    },
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    },
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    "fee": "10.13 BTS",
    "price_per_output": "3.38 BTS"
    },
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    "fee": "10.13 BTS"
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    "fee": "48.3 BTS"
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    "fee": "0.0483 BTS"
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    },
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    "fee": "483 BTS"
    },
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    "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
    "fee_per_day": "1.593 BTS"
    },
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    "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
    "fee_per_kb": "4.83 BTS"
    },
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    "fee": "0.0483 BTS",
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btcbchbts    0.260201   444824.5045   115744   2020/2/17 9:10
hangjun-btss    0.260201   384317.5495   100000   2020/2/17 11:06
bts-ydy8    0.260201   307454.0396   80000   2020/2/17 22:23
yinchg    0.260201   188546.1898   49060   2020/2/18 0:51
hakuku-findom    0.260201   153727.0198   40000   2020/2/18 6:42
yykxuxu830905    0.260201   141113.7178   36718   2020/2/17 22:21
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:38
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:44
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:45
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:48
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:55
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:57
dqt812    0.260201   115295.2649   30000   2020/2/17 21:59
love8zf02    0.260201   76863.50991   20000   2020/2/17 9:42
anbi    0.260201   38431.72075   9999.9911   2020/2/17 17:19
yutaoweishan1    0.260201   7993.805031   2080   2020/2/18 7:36
fengshen123456    0.260201   48.424011   12.6   2020/2/17 9:21


LTM just need pay 1000*0.02=200 BTS.

at least to settle: 100,000 bts
make sure the profits：0.4%

binggo

#7
February 14, 2020, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: Thul3 on February 14, 2020, 04:40:12 PM
Would love to support you into committee.
However i belive in a balance in committee as there are "3 groups" mainly BEOS people,CN-vote people (where risks exist they follow blindly their groups recommendation and agenda) and neutral committee members which are the most important part imo (since BEOS and CN-Vote clearly did together inside deals before)
It's this way healthier and more secure in my opinion than just having BEOS and CN-Vote people in committee.

Once CN-Vote removes their votes from fully inactive committee members like evangelist or liondani i will support you in to keep the balance and get active members into committee

Thanks,
anyway, i'm not one of them, even i set my proxy on CN-VOTE.

Thul3

#6
February 14, 2020, 04:40:12 PM Last Edit: February 14, 2020, 04:59:47 PM by Thul3
Would love to support you into committee.
However i belive in a balance in committee as there are "3 groups" mainly BEOS people,CN-vote people (where risks exist they follow blindly their groups recommendation and agenda) and neutral committee members which are the most important part imo (since BEOS and CN-Vote clearly did together inside deals before)
It's this way healthier and more secure in my opinion than just having BEOS and CN-Vote people in committee.

Once CN-Vote removes their votes from fully inactive committee members like evangelist or liondani i will support you in to keep the balance and get active members into committee
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