111* days estimated for Difficulty to retarget. Could this kill PTS?

Started by NewMine, March 03, 2014, 05:41:40 AM

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testz

Quote from: zvs on March 03, 2014, 04:15:48 PM
Quote from: testz on March 03, 2014, 03:04:09 PM
1-2 block per hour it's not a problem, the main problem which we have it's that not all pools include tx into blocks: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=831.msg41839#msg41839

I found one, but as I see we have another one, which I can't find, maybe it's a solo miner.
re: the thread you linked, I'm 99% sure that doesn't apply here (and isn't practice by ypool anymore, anyway)

I'll quote Stan, since his extremely condescending reply on another thread would be appropriate here as well

Knowledge and understanding is the ultimate proof of work.

People are sending transactions with zero fees, there are no longer ~5-10 blocks every hour, now there are 1 or 2.  That means many of these transactions won't get into blocks for quite a long time.

I place it to ypool thread because I think it's connected to jh miner originally developed by ypool owner, anyway, in our case it's doesn't connected to fee, if you look to block explorer http://ptsexplorer.cloudapp.net/chain/BitShares-PTS the blocks with 1 transactions doesn't take transactions with fee as well.
And my investigation shows that most blocks produced with 1 transaction doesn't connected to any known pools.

Knowledge and understanding is the ultimate proof of work.

zvs

Quote from: testz on March 03, 2014, 03:04:09 PM
1-2 block per hour it's not a problem, the main problem which we have it's that not all pools include tx into blocks: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=831.msg41839#msg41839

I found one, but as I see we have another one, which I can't find, maybe it's a solo miner.
re: the thread you linked, I'm 99% sure that doesn't apply here (and isn't practice by ypool anymore, anyway)

I'll quote Stan, since his extremely condescending reply on another thread would be appropriate here as well

Knowledge and understanding is the ultimate proof of work.

People are sending transactions with zero fees, there are no longer ~5-10 blocks every hour, now there are 1 or 2.  That means many of these transactions won't get into blocks for quite a long time.

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testz

1-2 block per hour it's not a problem, the main problem which we have it's that not all pools include tx into blocks: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=831.msg41839#msg41839

I found one, but as I see we have another one, which I can't find, maybe it's a solo miner.

barwizi

Quote from: toast on March 03, 2014, 08:31:56 AM
Quote from: AdamBLevine on March 03, 2014, 05:44:36 AM
Maybe it's time to do a proof of burn into a proto-asset that actually trades on the first Bitshares chain.  Seems miners don't understand why they'd want to keep mining now that Bitshares has split off.

I don't think this is a good idea, I think it's good if PTS is kept "pure".

We actually don't care if there are barely any miners, we just care that they dropped so quickly that the difficulty doesn't have time to adjust and so blocks are slowed down

Implementation of the diff algo i use (PPC) for NRS with stronger limits may help. A hard limit on the maximum time that may pass before a block is solved will make retargets adjust to these swings in hash.

also recently there is talk of chain migration to PoS only. Everyone keeps their balance but we maintain high tx speed by way of micro PoS
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toast

Quote from: AdamBLevine on March 03, 2014, 05:44:36 AM
Maybe it's time to do a proof of burn into a proto-asset that actually trades on the first Bitshares chain.  Seems miners don't understand why they'd want to keep mining now that Bitshares has split off.

I don't think this is a good idea, I think it's good if PTS is kept "pure".

We actually don't care if there are barely any miners, we just care that they dropped so quickly that the difficulty doesn't have time to adjust and so blocks are slowed down
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That's a problem now, the transaction is very slow in recent days (avg. 1 confirmation per hr.)

AdamBLevine

Maybe it's time to do a proof of burn into a proto-asset that actually trades on the first Bitshares chain.  Seems miners don't understand why they'd want to keep mining now that Bitshares has split off.
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NewMine

From: http://mrx.im/pts.php?cpm=4270

*new numbers edit

Blocks to retarget: 3098
Measured: 23.16%
Estimated difficulty: 0.00632337 (15.34%)
Time to retarget: 111d 07:06:46 (2014-08-26 07:34:58 UTC+9)

Network hashing speed:
Last 100 blocks: 3,557,881.87 cpm ETA: 107d 00:58:55
Last  50 blocks: 3,421,845.28 cpm ETA: 111d 07:06:46
Last  15 blocks: 2,604,555.19 cpm ETA: 146d 05:17:17
Last   5 blocks: 4,670,302.72 cpm ETA: 81d 13:04:31



Original post below:

Blocks to retarget: 2500
Measured: 38.00%
Estimated difficulty: 0.02562563 (70.73%)
Time to retarget: 42d 06:22:30 (2014-04-14 20:57:18 UTC+9)

Network hashing speed:
Last 100 blocks: 8,467,957.85 cpm ETA: 31d 21:37:55
Last  50 blocks: 6,391,461.77 cpm ETA: 42d 06:22:30
Last  15 blocks: 7,458,464.16 cpm ETA: 36d 05:15:33
Last   5 blocks: 12,018,548.16 cpm ETA: 22d 11:26:40


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