Quote from: liondani on April 21, 2014, 11:10:28 PM

Quote from: bytemaster on April 20, 2014, 09:03:52 PM

Quote from: burgoboby on April 20, 2014, 09:02:45 PM
D'you mean our PTS are gonna become worthless ?

I mean they will change form and you will get something else of equal (or greater) value in exchange.  More of a hard fork.

that means, after that, if someone will donate the new PTS for AGS it must be done to a new address I suppose...

We are preparing a plan that we think will solve the following items:

1) PTS Mining Issues
2) PTS AGS Fund
3) Air Drop Targeting

Details on this plan are being worked out, but I think most will find it much more effective at addressing things.

Quote from: bytemaster on April 20, 2014, 09:03:52 PM

Quote from: burgoboby on April 20, 2014, 09:02:45 PM
D'you mean our PTS are gonna become worthless ?

I mean they will change form and you will get something else of equal (or greater) value in exchange.  More of a hard fork.

that means, after that, if someone will donate the new PTS for AGS it must be done to a new address I suppose...

Quote from: burgoboby on April 20, 2014, 09:02:45 PM
D'you mean our PTS are gonna become worthless ?

I mean they will change form and you will get something else of equal (or greater) value in exchange.  More of a hard fork.

D'you mean our PTS are gonna become worthless ?

Quote from: greenfields on April 19, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
the new protoshares DPOS client, will it be backwards compatible with proof of work, and the POS blocks will just overtake the POW blocks?

If protoshares revalues within the next month, would that put the DPOS migration on hold, or is this DPOS protoshares planned to be a test of DPOS before bitsharesX is released?

No the new ProtoShares DPOS client will not be backwards compatible.

the new protoshares DPOS client, will it be backwards compatible with proof of work, and the POS blocks will just overtake the POW blocks?

If protoshares revalues within the next month, would that put the DPOS migration on hold, or is this DPOS protoshares planned to be a test of DPOS before bitsharesX is released?

Quote from: liondani on April 18, 2014, 09:16:51 AM

Quote from: Stan on April 17, 2014, 08:34:26 PM

Quote from: burgoboby on April 17, 2014, 08:31:33 PM

Quote from: bytemaster on April 17, 2014, 04:25:29 PM

Quote from: newmine on April 17, 2014, 01:21:53 PM

Quote from: bytemaster on April 16, 2014, 07:54:40 PM
No because the value of pts is the social contract which is transferable on the daily snapshots.   We will soon migrate pts to dpos and this problem will go away. 


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How will this work? With 350k shares to be distributed before the 2 million mark and inflationary only period? I see it working post share exhaustion but not till then. Is the delegate to act as a faucet? What am I missing?

You are missing that PTS has no obligation to mine out all 2 million shares and that the final snapshot on PTS can occur at any time.

February, 28th spnapshot wasn't the last one ? A new snapshot will happen ? wich purpose ?

Every new DAC in the pipeline will have its own snapshot when it is ready to launch.  No such dates have been announced by any developers I know of, but you can see many DACs are in various stages of development.

Do you have the knowledge that some announcements take place soon from some developers? Is it possible that some of them would not choose the path of  snapshoting PTS and choose other ways to promote their DACs ??? Are they committed to a snapshot ?

The March newsletter outlined many new DACs that are on the horizon.  Some of them could do a snapshot this spring or summer - but that depends on their rate of progress which is subject to many forces beyond anyone's control.

All of them have committed to honor the BitShares Social Consensus, but most are still working out the details of what distribution of shares will maximize their likelihood of success.  Many ideas get floated in the forum to gain community feedback and are usually highly subject to change as the developer's think and listen and learn.

Your best bet is to follow the postings of each developer, look at the state of their code, and form your own estimates of how long it will be before each snapshot takes place.

The accepted practice is to give the community at least two week's notice prior to doing any snapshot.

Quote from: Stan on April 17, 2014, 08:34:26 PM

Quote from: burgoboby on April 17, 2014, 08:31:33 PM

Quote from: bytemaster on April 17, 2014, 04:25:29 PM

Quote from: newmine on April 17, 2014, 01:21:53 PM

Quote from: bytemaster on April 16, 2014, 07:54:40 PM
No because the value of pts is the social contract which is transferable on the daily snapshots.   We will soon migrate pts to dpos and this problem will go away. 


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How will this work? With 350k shares to be distributed before the 2 million mark and inflationary only period? I see it working post share exhaustion but not till then. Is the delegate to act as a faucet? What am I missing?

You are missing that PTS has no obligation to mine out all 2 million shares and that the final snapshot on PTS can occur at any time.

February, 28th spnapshot wasn't the last one ? A new snapshot will happen ? wich purpose ?

Every new DAC in the pipeline will have its own snapshot when it is ready to launch.  No such dates have been announced by any developers I know of, but you can see many DACs are in various stages of development.

Do you have the knowledge that some announcements take place soon from some developers? Is it possible that some of them would not choose the path of  snapshoting PTS and choose other ways to promote their DACs ??? Are they committed to a snapshot ?

Quote from: burgoboby on April 17, 2014, 08:31:33 PM

Quote from: bytemaster on April 17, 2014, 04:25:29 PM

Quote from: newmine on April 17, 2014, 01:21:53 PM

Quote from: bytemaster on April 16, 2014, 07:54:40 PM
No because the value of pts is the social contract which is transferable on the daily snapshots.   We will soon migrate pts to dpos and this problem will go away. 


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How will this work? With 350k shares to be distributed before the 2 million mark and inflationary only period? I see it working post share exhaustion but not till then. Is the delegate to act as a faucet? What am I missing?

You are missing that PTS has no obligation to mine out all 2 million shares and that the final snapshot on PTS can occur at any time.

February, 28th spnapshot wasn't the last one ? A new snapshot will happen ? wich purpose ?

Every new DAC in the pipeline will have its own snapshot when it is ready to launch.  No such dates have been announced by any developers I know of, but you can see many DACs are in various stages of development.

Quote from: bytemaster on April 17, 2014, 04:25:29 PM

Quote from: newmine on April 17, 2014, 01:21:53 PM

Quote from: bytemaster on April 16, 2014, 07:54:40 PM
No because the value of pts is the social contract which is transferable on the daily snapshots.   We will soon migrate pts to dpos and this problem will go away. 


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How will this work? With 350k shares to be distributed before the 2 million mark and inflationary only period? I see it working post share exhaustion but not till then. Is the delegate to act as a faucet? What am I missing?

You are missing that PTS has no obligation to mine out all 2 million shares and that the final snapshot on PTS can occur at any time.

February, 28th spnapshot wasn't the last one ? A new snapshot will happen ? wich purpose ?

I think it would be good to define the snapshot to be the block that breaks 2m shares. Even better to have the new version ready and have hard-forked the old one to stop producing blocks at that point.

Quote from: newmine on April 17, 2014, 01:21:53 PM

Quote from: bytemaster on April 16, 2014, 07:54:40 PM
No because the value of pts is the social contract which is transferable on the daily snapshots.   We will soon migrate pts to dpos and this problem will go away. 


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How will this work? With 350k shares to be distributed before the 2 million mark and inflationary only period? I see it working post share exhaustion but not till then. Is the delegate to act as a faucet? What am I missing?

You are missing that PTS has no obligation to mine out all 2 million shares and that the final snapshot on PTS can occur at any time.

Quote from: bytemaster on April 16, 2014, 07:54:40 PM
No because the value of pts is the social contract which is transferable on the daily snapshots.   We will soon migrate pts to dpos and this problem will go away. 


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How will this work? With 350k shares to be distributed before the 2 million mark and inflationary only period? I see it working post share exhaustion but not till then. Is the delegate to act as a faucet? What am I missing?

A delegate can be a delegate for multiple DACs. There will likely be delegates where you can request to be added specifically for this purpose

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just wondering if that would be possible to have an option that can joint mining with BTS network since for some small DAC it may be difficult to find 100 delegates at the beginning.

Quote from: bytemaster on April 16, 2014, 08:38:46 PM
Each network has its own delegates.


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