PTS Post Snapshot will likely fall again.

Started by bytemaster, August 03, 2014, 05:51:36 PM

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Riverhead

Quote from: yellowecho on August 22, 2014, 12:49:18 AM

Yeah I don't really expect much of a sell off since volume is already low... but if it does I'm definitely buying.


+5%  Most under appreciated coin ever IMHO.

Empirical1

Glad to see a healthy drop in PTS, means there was a lot of value in there for the snapshot, BitShares DNS in particular probably. Depending how feature rich the initial release is, it could have a $4 million+ opening CAP. That would put it top 15 out the gate.(Really looking forward to the auction feature, beside mitigating squatting, I think that's going to generate a lot of interest in the DAC.)
So top 10 easy, soon enough :) 

yellowecho

Quote from: Brekyrself on August 21, 2014, 10:52:41 PM
With the PTS price so low are people still going to sell?  Buy depth is very lacking and any major sell offs would drop the price significantly.

Yeah I don't really expect much of a sell off since volume is already low... but if it does I'm definitely buying.
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Brekyrself

With the PTS price so low are people still going to sell?  Buy depth is very lacking and any major sell offs would drop the price significantly.

unsoindovo

Quote from: toast on August 03, 2014, 07:56:12 PM
I have been working with testz on both short-term and long-term solutions for this. When it is ready we will approach community with options: 1) difficulty patch to KGW, 2) difficulty patch and then migrate to new DPOS chain later, 3) stop-network patch and migrate to new DPOS chain sooner

i think the best solution it is on point 1)
difficulty patch to KGW or something else!!

yellowecho

Quote from: tbkmcjl on August 19, 2014, 04:15:42 PM
Then ,what is PTS's advantage anyway ?  The price fall is kinda like I buy the child-DAC with money indirectly.

Any buying child-DAC directly would risk less if a delay like 228 happen again.

PTS acts like a pre-sale for the child-DAC.  You could buy the child-DAC after its released but you also risk price volatility on launch.  PTS price drop occurs more now because there are less snapshots; however, I suspect it will stabilize as the Bitshares ecosystem grows and snapshots become a regular occurrence.
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Riverhead

PTS' real value is that it gives you stake in ALL future DACs. The producers of the DACs can use these earlier releases to determine the PTS/DACShare ratio. It should self regulate.

sudo

money  in PTS pools just like a small pond, water is very shallow, still let POW pumping money out,
die-hard fans  really going to die.

sudo

Quote from: toast on August 03, 2014, 07:56:12 PM
I have been working with testz on both short-term and long-term solutions for this. When it is ready we will approach community with options: 1) difficulty patch to KGW, 2) difficulty patch and then migrate to new DPOS chain later, 3) stop-network patch and migrate to new DPOS chain sooner

pow just like a Blood drawing machine

It's a pitty BTS vote  can't be used right now for all PTS holder to choose the future.


why not do this :
1.snapshot aug21(use the same snapshot with DNS&vote)
2.embedded pts into bitshares x as a Bitasset(new bitshares client)
3.give back the rest pts(300K+) to the ags donater(use pts) & pts keepers(snapshot)  by the shares percent
4.let people get pts in bitshares x  through the private key(like get btsx)

then  we can trede  directly   pts-cny、pts-btsx     in  bitsharesx  instead of  btc38 or bter


PTS as a bitasset  in bitsharesx
we can trade pts-bts  pts-cny  in low fees   instead of  btc38  0.1%fee
direct  pts-bts   not  pts-cny  cny-bts  in btc38  with  fee 0.2%

pts  is just a liquid  stock rights ,why not  chang into a bitasset  in Bitsharesx market?

if PTS(dpos) a new client  there will be  101+ new  delegate   & payment  is a waste

pts  as a asset in bitshares X with 2m total num is equal to AGS
but if  pts is a single  dpos ,  when it burns after few years, maybe  pts1.5m, AGS sitll 2m, it's not fair, that's a Naked plunder to agser

clout


Shentist

QuotePosted by: bytemaster
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PTS will probably see another fall off in value after these snapshots.... this will impact mining.   We should plan ahead for this.

no suprise here.

@toast
do you have a timeline for all 3 options?

toast

I have been working with testz on both short-term and long-term solutions for this. When it is ready we will approach community with options: 1) difficulty patch to KGW, 2) difficulty patch and then migrate to new DPOS chain later, 3) stop-network patch and migrate to new DPOS chain sooner
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PTS will probably see another fall off in value after these snapshots.... this will impact mining.   We should plan ahead for this.
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