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Finally, a use for my CRAPCOIN?

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The features is there already .. but only available to the blockchain level. It's not yet exposed to the end-user in the GUI

Devs are working on it:
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/356

This is in regards to issue #356.
I see that this function is now implemented on GUI level, but only for fee transfers.
Is there a plan to allow user to select the method of payment for network fees for trading (placing limit orders)?

There have been discussions about how to best do it. We don't want to make trading too difficult for people .. hence this will probably be an "advanced" setting ..
But its on the list of things to do!

Haha where this 'discussion" has been going on?
So defaulting to the (cheaper) paying the fees in BTS and the same dropdown menu (the same as per transfers) might be TOO complicated for traders?

Who  user - knowledgeable genius suggested/supports this great insight into the shallow minds of traders?

Very curious, here.

« Last Edit: January 04, 2016, 03:15:13 am by tonyk »
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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The features is there already .. but only available to the blockchain level. It's not yet exposed to the end-user in the GUI

Devs are working on it:
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/356

This is in regards to issue #356.
I see that this function is now implemented on GUI level, but only for fee transfers.
Is there a plan to allow user to select the method of payment for network fees for trading (placing limit orders)?

There have been discussions about how to best do it. We don't want to make trading too difficult for people .. hence this will probably be an "advanced" setting ..
But its on the list of things to do!

Thanks for letting me know that BROWNIE.PTS was created during BitShares 1. No wonder I cannot configure it the same way on BitShares 2.

Okay, so since core exchange rate cannot be set to zero for assets created in BitShares 2.0, I guess I have to wait for this "advanced" setting to be implemented in the future. Hopefully.
FYI it's already possible to set fees in BTS or UIA while transferring / trading with the latest GUI.
//Edit: by now it will pay fee in BTS while trading if fee pool is insufficient. See https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/628

Thanks for letting me now that system will try to pay fee in BTS while trading if fee pool is empty. Since I don't know how long I must wait for this "advanced" setting to get launched, so emptying out the fee pool sounds like a good workaround.
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The features is there already .. but only available to the blockchain level. It's not yet exposed to the end-user in the GUI

Devs are working on it:
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/356

This is in regards to issue #356.
I see that this function is now implemented on GUI level, but only for fee transfers.
Is there a plan to allow user to select the method of payment for network fees for trading (placing limit orders)?

There have been discussions about how to best do it. We don't want to make trading too difficult for people .. hence this will probably be an "advanced" setting ..
But its on the list of things to do!

Thanks for letting me know that BROWNIE.PTS was created during BitShares 1. No wonder I cannot configure it the same way on BitShares 2.

Okay, so since core exchange rate cannot be set to zero for assets created in BitShares 2.0, I guess I have to wait for this "advanced" setting to be implemented in the future. Hopefully.
FYI it's already possible to set fees in BTS or UIA while transferring / trading with the latest GUI.
//Edit: by now it will pay fee in BTS while trading if fee pool is insufficient. See https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/628
« Last Edit: December 24, 2015, 06:24:29 pm by abit »
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The features is there already .. but only available to the blockchain level. It's not yet exposed to the end-user in the GUI

Devs are working on it:
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/356

This is in regards to issue #356.
I see that this function is now implemented on GUI level, but only for fee transfers.
Is there a plan to allow user to select the method of payment for network fees for trading (placing limit orders)?

There have been discussions about how to best do it. We don't want to make trading too difficult for people .. hence this will probably be an "advanced" setting ..
But its on the list of things to do!

Thanks for letting me know that BROWNIE.PTS was created during BitShares 1. No wonder I cannot configure it the same way on BitShares 2.

Okay, so since core exchange rate cannot be set to zero for assets created in BitShares 2.0, I guess I have to wait for this "advanced" setting to be implemented in the future. Hopefully.
I'm a BitShares enthusiast in Japan, spreading BitShares daily to the Japanese people through https://genxnotes.com. Help us grow bitJPY together, so that bitUSD/bitJPY market pair will become the most popular market worldwide! Imagine what kind of world it will become when we execute this.

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all assets that have been migrated from BitShares 1, start with a CER of 0

Hold on. Are you saying that BROWNIES.PTS was issued during BItShares 1?

Yes, it was created before the launch of 2.0.

BROWNIE.PTS:BTS was a fairly active market well before the 2.0 launch, went as high as 20 BTS per BROWNIE.PTS
« Last Edit: December 21, 2015, 10:26:19 pm by svk »
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all assets that have been migrated from BitShares 1, start with a CER of 0

Hold on. Are you saying that BROWNIES.PTS was issued during BItShares 1?
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all assets that have been migrated from BitShares 1, start with a CER of 0

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The blockchain allows for a core exchange rate of zero (obviously) hence it is a bug in the GUI

https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/543

Thank you for the reply. I now understand it's a GUI bug. I will keep following this issue on Github.

I realized that this was closed by svk31 with the message, "Seems xeroc was mistaken and it's not actually possible to set a zero or null cer. I've added the ability to set the CER on creation however, and also hid the asset selection in asset update for assets that have a valid (CORE + the asset to update) combination of CER assets."

In that case, how was BROWNIE.PTS configured as zero core exchange rate by bytemaster?
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The features is there already .. but only available to the blockchain level. It's not yet exposed to the end-user in the GUI

Devs are working on it:
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/356

This is in regards to issue #356.
I see that this function is now implemented on GUI level, but only for fee transfers.
Is there a plan to allow user to select the method of payment for network fees for trading (placing limit orders)?

There have been discussions about how to best do it. We don't want to make trading too difficult for people .. hence this will probably be an "advanced" setting ..
But its on the list of things to do!

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The features is there already .. but only available to the blockchain level. It's not yet exposed to the end-user in the GUI

Devs are working on it:
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/356

This is in regards to issue #356.
I see that this function is now implemented on GUI level, but only for fee transfers.
Is there a plan to allow user to select the method of payment for network fees for trading (placing limit orders)?
I'm a BitShares enthusiast in Japan, spreading BitShares daily to the Japanese people through https://genxnotes.com. Help us grow bitJPY together, so that bitUSD/bitJPY market pair will become the most popular market worldwide! Imagine what kind of world it will become when we execute this.

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The blockchain allows for a core exchange rate of zero (obviously) hence it is a bug in the GUI

https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/543

Thank you for the reply. I now understand it's a GUI bug. I will keep following this issue on Github.
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It didn't occur to me that that was an option, but it makes sense that it would force you to pay in BTS. I'll get that added in the current milestone.
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The blockchain allows for a core exchange rate of zero (obviously) hence it is a bug in the GUI

https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/543

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Okay, good to know that the feature is there already. Awaiting for GUI control.

I have another related question. See here.
http://cryptofresh.com/a/BROWNIE.PTS

How did bytemaster set Core Exchange Rate to null? By setting it to null, I see that selling or transferring BROWNIE.PTS will force user to pay network fee using BTS. I am trying to set one of my UIAs the same way as BROWNIE.PTS but the system doesn't allow me to save it.
I'm a BitShares enthusiast in Japan, spreading BitShares daily to the Japanese people through https://genxnotes.com. Help us grow bitJPY together, so that bitUSD/bitJPY market pair will become the most popular market worldwide! Imagine what kind of world it will become when we execute this.