Freedomfighting Socialists are Giving up

[santaclause102]

Anyone else notice the trend here? 99% of the people (pun intended) who fight the oppressive capitalist systems are anti-capitalist activists who don't know how to fuel their own revolution. They end up cynical and despondent, if not "crucified," not for a second doubting that their view of how to effect change is mistaken.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/pirate-bay-founder-peter-sunde-i-have-given-up

I have noticed this in the Norwegian Pirate Party, in the Open Source community, and in various Free Society communities. You can also see it in dejected spirit of the recent conversation between Žižek, Varoufakis and Assange:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjxAArOkoA0

The clear signal from our community, i.e. the cryptocurrency community, is that any effective revolution has to consider economic independence and freedom, as well as economic incentives, as essential to any effective solution. What's great about our community is that we blame actual barriers to participation and ineffective centralization, instead of blaming and engaging with ideology.

I fully agree! It's just that the pure Austrian approach can sometimes (contrary to it's assumptions about subjectivity / subjective (price) judgement) forget that no revolution that does away with hierarchical / state institutions can work without a change of consciousness. I.e. No System (system here: set of rules that are violently enforced while there is (relatively) wide consent about the legitimacy of the violence and the enforcement) and also no "no system" can handle the degree of greed we have today. But maybe less structural violence helps to reduce it? Interesting question!

Žižek, Varoufakis and Assange:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjxAArOkoA0

It's really annoying to always see these "leftist" and "liberal" attributions made to certain arguments (made by Zizek all the time). 
But very much worth watching at least from here on: https://youtu.be/yjxAArOkoA0?t=1h3m34s

[Samupaha]

This reminds me of Marc Emery, who funded his cannabis revolution by selling hemp seeds and other stuff. Good documentary about his life and how his views changed over time is Principle of Pot.

At first he tried to change the society with default procedure, working at a political party and trying to get people to support him. That didn't work, of course. He realized that it was more effective just to choose one thing and focus on that. He chose cannabis and was very succesful – now the new prime minister is going to legalize it.

It's been a while since I've watched the doc but I think he made clear that it's really important to have independent funding. If activists don't have money, they are not going to succeed.

[CLains]

Anyone else notice the trend here? 99% of the people (pun intended) who fight the oppressive capitalist systems are anti-capitalist activists who don't know how to fuel their own revolution. They end up cynical and despondent, if not "crucified," not for a second doubting that their view of how to effect change is mistaken.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/pirate-bay-founder-peter-sunde-i-have-given-up

I have noticed this in the Norwegian Pirate Party, in the Open Source community, and in various Free Society communities. You can also see it in dejected spirit of the recent conversation between Žižek, Varoufakis and Assange:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjxAArOkoA0

The clear signal from our community, i.e. the cryptocurrency community, is that any effective revolution has to consider economic independence and freedom, as well as economic incentives, as essential to any effective solution. What's great about our community is that we blame actual barriers to participation and ineffective centralization, instead of blaming and engaging with ideology.