How "Free transactions" feature have to be promoted - VERY IMPORTANT NOTE!

[Erlich Bachman]

 

Sounds good.

[abit]

I'd like to quote something here, to see if anybody will respond to do something as a volunteer or a paid worker.
@Akado @noisy @Empirical1.2 @bitcoinsatan @jakub @tbone @cube @xeroc @kenCode @BunkerChain Labs @Xeldal @Thom @Samupaha

If I understood correctly, the Rate Limited Fees feature is super high priority? Would you like to write a feature definition document in the formal BSIP format for us? I'm a bit sick of requesting for deployment/hard fork without a detailed feature definition document.
Please refer to :
* BM's blog post: http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2016/02/10/How-to-build-a-decentralized-application-without-fees/
* BSIP example: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0010.md
* my implementation post: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21462.0.html
* Github feature request: https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/issues/603

Thanks a lot!

[tbone]

I agree that we should be careful about saying "free transactions".  But I also think "rate limited free transactions" won't mean anything to anyone new to Bitshares.  In fact, although regulars know what we're referring to, the term rate limited free transactions isn't a particularly good description or name for it.  Perhaps something like "stake-weighted free transactions" would be more easily understood by most people.

[kenCode]

 

[xeroc]

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[noisy]

One thing though.  How does this message remove/reduce the fear/perception that this is not a scam/ponzi when "most users' do not pay fees?

This is very good question. Personally I think that the fear of scam/ponzi can have mostly... very technical people - early adopters. Why? Because they already know a lot, to be almost sure, that all coins which already had free transactions are long dead, and was created only as SCAMcoins.

However I hope, that those technical people should be encouraged enough by 2nd part of the term - "Rate limited free transactions", to be curious enough to spent some time to learn what actually mean "Rate limited free transactions".

But this is mostly my wish-thinking... I am not sure whether people actually can think in that way.

[cube]

We are all very excited about upcoming future.

Free Transaction*
* - if you have proper amount of money on your account.

We should not over promise, and deliver exactly what we are going to say.

- They think, that this is not possible... because they know the reality. So they think that in that case bitshares is a SCAM or Ponzi
- They believe... they are making big plans... to figure out later... that there is a catch, and they end up with disappointment.

At the end of the day, for most users (but not all) will not have any fees at all, so they will still have very good opinion about that feature, but we cannot afford more overpromissed marketing campaigns.

It is an exciting time. This is what the message needs to inspire indeed.

One thing though.  How does this message remove/reduce the fear/perception that this is not a scam/ponzi when "most users' do not pay fees?

[bytemaster]

[noisy]

We are all very excited about upcoming future.

What Bytemaster describe in his blogpost - How to build a Decentralized Application without Fees should be soon delivered. Thanks to @abit work, most of implementation is already done. He already created a Pull Request - https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/issues/603

And... in the title of this Pull Request we have an answer to question asked in the title:

New feature should be called:

Rate limited free transactions

Why this is important? Because... term "Free transactions" is too wide... and this is not exactly what we are going to deliver. There are some requirements which need to be fulfilled to have a possibility of making a free transactions. Do you see a difference?

Of course we cannot use term:

Free Transaction*
* - if you have proper amount of money on your account.

We should not over promise, and deliver exactly what we are going to say.

Do you know why this is also important? Because I have already find out, that when people first hear about "bitshares are going to have free transactions".. they react in two ways:

- They think, that this is not possible... because they know the reality. So they think that in that case bitshares is a SCAM or Ponzi
- They believe... they are making big plans... to figure out later... that there is a catch, and they end up with disappointment.

"Rate limited free transactions" is simple term, easy to understand. We should be allergic to all simplifications, and every time when someone will use that term... we should educate them.

At the end of the day, for most users (but not all) will not have any fees at all, so they will still have very good opinion about that feature, but we cannot afford more overpromissed marketing campaigns.