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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2016, 02:03:38 am »
That was from the August 2014 Cryptolina event, shortly after this picture was taken.



We spent several days together and V and BM exchanged a lot of great ideas.

Haven't talked much lately, but that could change at any time and I sense there is nothing preventing it other than it will probably have to wait till we come up for air on our current thrusts.  Perhaps when we catch up with ETH on CMC later this summer we will take August off and go pay him a visit wherever he is at that time.  :)

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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2016, 03:02:46 am »
Perhaps when we catch up with ETH on CMC later this summer

 
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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2016, 03:12:44 am »
That was from the August 2014 Cryptolina event, shortly after this picture was taken.



We spent several days together and V and BM exchanged a lot of great ideas.

Haven't talked much lately, but that could change at any time and I sense there is nothing preventing it other than it will probably have to wait till we come up for air on our current thrusts.  Perhaps when we catch up with ETH on CMC later this summer we will take August off and go pay him a visit wherever he is at that time.  :)

You just gave me a reason to sell more BTS with your price prediction  :'( :'(

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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2016, 03:19:32 am »
this summer

Do I sense another exciting edition of "BitShares Summer Announcements" on the horizon? tbh those "Winter Storm Warnings" just weren't doing it for me...

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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2016, 03:27:12 am »
this summer

Do I sense another exciting edition of "BitShares Summer Announcements" on the horizon? tbh those "Winter Storm Warnings" just weren't doing it for me...

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This is the last paycheck you can afford to buy BTS at these price .
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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2016, 03:30:46 am »
this summer

Do I sense another exciting edition of "BitShares Summer Announcements" on the horizon? tbh those "Winter Storm Warnings" just weren't doing it for me...

 :P

I prefer we all go out and actively try to get people to join our little motley crew instead of asking when others will make it happen (not saying you are advocating sitting on our asses, btw). 

If anyone wants to know the "secret sauce" that will make us fly it literally comes down to us all doing as much as we can and trying to not lose focus of what WE can do to help (as opposed to getting upset about others' failures while they are throwing their hat in the ring). 

Love you [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] but seriously bro, has every single thing you have worked on worked out?  I assure you it hasn't for any of us.  Unfortunately for Stan, he is in the position where he has to show people the possibilities without  making promises because complete silence will be taken as "nothing is going on".  So I for one am very happy he comes on and gives us the updates of what could "potentially" be on the horizon.  I mean look how little the community knows about PLAY and MUSE these days...  And I assure you that silence has many in the community too concerned to buy in.  So which has been more valuable I guess is the question.  If silence was, then I'd imagine MUSE and PLAY would be higher substantially than BTS but I have been wrong before!  If you don't believe me...ask my wife!
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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2016, 03:39:20 am »
this summer

Do I sense another exciting edition of "BitShares Summer Announcements" on the horizon? tbh those "Winter Storm Warnings" just weren't doing it for me...

 :P

I prefer we all go out and actively try to get people to join our little motley crew instead of asking when others will make it happen. 

If anyone wants to know the "secret sauce" it literally comes down to us all doing as much as we can and trying to not lose focus of what WE can do to help (as opposed to getting upset about others' failures while they are throwing their hat in the ring. 

Love you [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] but seriously bro, has every single thing you have worked on worked out?  I assure you it hasn't.  Unfortunately for Stan, he is in the position where he has to show people the possibilities without  making promises because complete silence will be taken as "nothing is going on".  So I for one am very happy he comes on and gives us the updates of what could "potentially" be on the horizon.  I mean look how little the community knows about PLAY and MUSE these days...  And I assure you that silence has many in the community too concerned to buy in.  So which has been more valuable I guess is the question.  If silence was, then I'd imagine MUSE and PLAY would be higher substantially than BTS.

According to CFA guidelines which I have been reading lately , suggesting people what the price of a speculative/investment object will be by a person at a unique position constitutes potential misrepresentation .
You can predict price , he can't . There might be consequence someday if the space is more regulated .
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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2016, 08:31:26 am »
this summer

Do I sense another exciting edition of "BitShares Summer Announcements" on the horizon? tbh those "Winter Storm Warnings" just weren't doing it for me...

 :P

I prefer we all go out and actively try to get people to join our little motley crew instead of asking when others will make it happen. 

If anyone wants to know the "secret sauce" it literally comes down to us all doing as much as we can and trying to not lose focus of what WE can do to help (as opposed to getting upset about others' failures while they are throwing their hat in the ring. 

Love you [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] but seriously bro, has every single thing you have worked on worked out?  I assure you it hasn't.  Unfortunately for Stan, he is in the position where he has to show people the possibilities without  making promises because complete silence will be taken as "nothing is going on".  So I for one am very happy he comes on and gives us the updates of what could "potentially" be on the horizon.  I mean look how little the community knows about PLAY and MUSE these days...  And I assure you that silence has many in the community too concerned to buy in.  So which has been more valuable I guess is the question.  If silence was, then I'd imagine MUSE and PLAY would be higher substantially than BTS.

According to CFA guidelines which I have been reading lately , suggesting people what the price of a speculative/investment object will be by a person at a unique position constitutes potential misrepresentation .
You can predict price , he can't . There might be consequence someday if the space is more regulated .

schooled on regulation.  My oh my how it strangles the invigorating contest for freedom and innovation *sigh*.  I must certainly agree that these are potential issues...
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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2016, 08:44:02 am »
this summer

Do I sense another exciting edition of "BitShares Summer Announcements" on the horizon? tbh those "Winter Storm Warnings" just weren't doing it for me...

 :P

I prefer we all go out and actively try to get people to join our little motley crew instead of asking when others will make it happen. 

If anyone wants to know the "secret sauce" it literally comes down to us all doing as much as we can and trying to not lose focus of what WE can do to help (as opposed to getting upset about others' failures while they are throwing their hat in the ring. 

Love you [member=25607]btswildpig[/member] but seriously bro, has every single thing you have worked on worked out?  I assure you it hasn't.  Unfortunately for Stan, he is in the position where he has to show people the possibilities without  making promises because complete silence will be taken as "nothing is going on".  So I for one am very happy he comes on and gives us the updates of what could "potentially" be on the horizon.  I mean look how little the community knows about PLAY and MUSE these days...  And I assure you that silence has many in the community too concerned to buy in.  So which has been more valuable I guess is the question.  If silence was, then I'd imagine MUSE and PLAY would be higher substantially than BTS.

According to CFA guidelines which I have been reading lately , suggesting people what the price of a speculative/investment object will be by a person at a unique position constitutes potential misrepresentation .
You can predict price , he can't . There might be consequence someday if the space is more regulated .

schooled on regulation.  My oh my how it strangles the invigorating contest for freedom and innovation *sigh*.  I must certainly agree that these are potential issues...

We are all in unique positions.

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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2016, 11:04:26 am »
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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2016, 04:14:33 am »
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unacceptable uses include using the EVM as a file storage, email or text messaging system, anything to do with graphical interfaces, and applications best suited for cloud computing like genetic algorithms, graph analysis or machine learning.

There would be less of a difference when bitshares eventually implement a compatible EVM.
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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2016, 03:55:15 pm »
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unacceptable uses include using the EVM as a file storage, email or text messaging system, anything to do with graphical interfaces, and applications best suited for cloud computing like genetic algorithms, graph analysis or machine learning.

There would be less of a difference when bitshares eventually implement a compatible EVM.

honestly I am surprised no one on the development team looked into the possibilities last year.  but better late then never.

it will be much easier for bitshares to get fin services users with that bolted on ...

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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2016, 09:28:11 pm »
Interesting video on scalability of ETH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOjlvwfREtw

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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
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Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2016, 07:23:04 am »
Major takeaway of that video:

* They name every hardfork differently! Frontier, Homestead, serenity
* Only after Serenity they will work on scalability for 1k to 10k tps
* After that .. they will be up to 1M tps ..
* Ethereum 4.0 brings 'infinity million tps" (WTF?! they either break speed of light or the size of the planet :) ) and maybe privacy
* Casper (the POS consensus) has not yet been proven
* solving the Economic scalability (bad actors shouldn't make a profit) in casper is still unsolved
* cross shard interoperability still unsolved
* shard validation and fees still unsolved

I think they will run into a lot of issues if they do not realize that doing things in parallel results in a lot of overhead.

The video is probably not worth your time, Dan. But it gives a nice overview of their current plans
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