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[vote] Upgrade Forum Software
« on: January 14, 2017, 05:09:12 pm »
Following the discussions in the last mumbles and the old threads by Bitsapphire I created a short summary of potential software we could use.

The idea is to streamline communication and improve the exchange between the different communities around the world. One of the goals was the to find a translation plugin, that will help us to talk better with the Chinese community. Further upgrading the forum software will send a strong signal that BitShares is active and improving.

What is wrong with the current forum?
Since Bitshapphire is not active anymore in the BitShares Community anymore, it would be better to have an active community member hosting the forum and be in charge of the maintenance. The goal is so to keep the forum 99% online.

Who could host it?
An active member of the BitShares community, let us discuss who could be suitable.

What are the current hosting costs?
50-60 Euro per month according to Bitsapphire

What happens with the current posts, ranks, and the old forum?
I found this guide for Discourse How to import Simple Machine to Discourse
We can probably import everything to the new forum and put the old posts in an archive.

Why now?
If not now, then never.

The two forums that would suit us the best:

1. Discourse http://www.discourse.org/
Demo: https://meta.discourse.org/

Plug-ins:

Very cool, Discourse also has a google translate plugin, which could help us to talk better with China.

2. NodeBB https://nodebb.org/
Demo: http://forum.expii.com/

Plug-ins:

3. Simple Machines Forum (currently used) www.simplemachines.org

3. Phpbb (currently used) https://www.phpbb.com
Demo: https://www.phpbb.com/community/index.php?sid=a6cdaea5cf2d304369d71e6952e76746

Happy voting and a good discussion!

ps.: My favorite is discourse
« Last Edit: January 14, 2017, 08:18:06 pm by Chris4210 »
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Re: [vote] Upgrade Forum Software
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2017, 05:47:56 pm »
Discourse very good. All those annoying +5% becomes "like" and then no clutter.  +5%

Is there a cost for the software itself?

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Re: [vote] Upgrade Forum Software
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2017, 06:01:37 pm »
Discourse very good. All those annoying +5% becomes "like" and then no clutter.  +5%

Is there a cost for the software itself?

Both software's and the plug-ins are free. The only costs would be the time to move the forum to the new platform and the monthly server cost for hosting.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2017, 06:26:47 pm »
That, and the maintenance for any problems that might arise. I've used Discourse before, and been pleased with it.

Looks like the migration might be pretty hairy, though.

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Re: [vote] Upgrade Forum Software
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2017, 07:12:00 pm »
That, and the maintenance for any problems that might arise. I've used Discourse before, and been pleased with it.

Looks like the migration might be pretty hairy, though.

Yeah, I was looking for the best tools how to do that. I found the following scripts https://meta.discourse.org/t/importer-for-simple-machines-2-forums/17656/13
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Re: [vote] Upgrade Forum Software
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2017, 08:14:07 pm »
Following the discussions in the last mumbles and the old threads by Bitsapphire I created a short summary of potential software we could use.

The idea is to streamline communication and improve the exchange between the different communities around the world. One of the goals was the to find a translation plugin, that will help us to talk better with the Chinese community. Further upgrading the forum software will send a strong signal that BitShares is active and improving.

What is wrong with the current forum?
Since Bitshapphire is not active anymore in the BitShares Community anymore, it would be better to have an active community member hosting the forum and be in charge of the maintenance. The goal is so to keep the forum 99% online.

Who could host it?
An active member of the BitShares community, let us discuss who could be suitable.

What are the current hosting costs?
50-60 Euro per month according to Bitsapphire

What happens with the current posts, ranks, and the old forum?
I found this guide for Discourse How to import Simple Machine to Discourse
We can probably import everything to the new forum and put the old posts in an archive.

Why now?
If not now, then never.

The two forums that would suit us the best:

1. Discourse http://www.discourse.org/
Demo: https://meta.discourse.org/

Plug-ins:

Very cool, Discourse also has a google translate plugin, which could help us to talk better with China.

2. NodeBB https://nodebb.org/
Demo: http://forum.expii.com/

Plug-ins:

3. Simple Machines Forum (currently used) www.simplemachines.org



Happy voting and a good discussion!

ps.: My favorite is discourse

Seem to have missed phpbb forums i added. Can we please add it? It is not the prettiest forum bit has the most tools for community growth and development out of all of them.

I also have been in contact with taulant. He said he has received many requests to be the new owner of the forums, but he and the team decided they would prefer to give to me (I never asked him to own the forums, instead approaching him for the community at large, which is probably why).  After rceiving the forum from taulant I stated out loud to you chris that I am not comfortable with any one entity (no matter how much I personally trust them) to have ownership. Please dont forget this as we move forward.

The reason is actually simple. I also believe this is why taulant and team decided this route. I am interested in opening community discussion about this further when im ready in the coming days. For now please co sider talking amongst yourselves about the best way to give OWNERSHIP to bitshares community as a whole.

(P.S. I trust you to run them personally)
« Last Edit: January 14, 2017, 08:31:19 pm by fuzzy »
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2017, 08:17:06 pm »
voted for discourse, same as last time. majority could end up at "no change" again though

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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2017, 08:18:37 pm »
Seem to have missed phpbb forums i added. Can we please add it? It is notnthebprettiest forum bit has tge most tools forncommubity growth and development out of all of them.

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Re: [vote] Upgrade Forum Software
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2017, 08:19:32 pm »
voted for discourse, same as last time. majority could end up at "no change" again though

We will discuss it on the mumble again and make a decision by the end of January 2017.
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Re: [vote] Upgrade Forum Software
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2017, 08:22:06 pm »
voted for discourse, same as last time. majority could end up at "no change" again though

We will discuss it on the mumble again and make a decision by the end of January 2017.

mumble is by no means an indicator for consent (even less so than the forum).

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Re: [vote] Upgrade Forum Software
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2017, 08:24:19 pm »
voted for discourse, same as last time. majority could end up at "no change" again though

We will discuss it on the mumble again and make a decision by the end of January 2017.

mumble is by no means an indicator for consent (even less so than the forum).

Partially true. But remember that about 10x people listen to the mumble as those who attend so it is a good place to catch a very large % of the people who really are the true bts community.
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Re: [vote] Upgrade Forum Software
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2017, 09:42:43 pm »
Following the discussions in the last mumbles and the old threads by Bitsapphire I created a short summary of potential software we could use.

The idea is to streamline communication and improve the exchange between the different communities around the world. One of the goals was the to find a translation plugin, that will help us to talk better with the Chinese community. Further upgrading the forum software will send a strong signal that BitShares is active and improving.

What is wrong with the current forum?
Since Bitshapphire is not active anymore in the BitShares Community anymore, it would be better to have an active community member hosting the forum and be in charge of the maintenance. The goal is so to keep the forum 99% online.

Who could host it?
An active member of the BitShares community, let us discuss who could be suitable.

What are the current hosting costs?
50-60 Euro per month according to Bitsapphire

What happens with the current posts, ranks, and the old forum?
I found this guide for Discourse How to import Simple Machine to Discourse
We can probably import everything to the new forum and put the old posts in an archive.

Why now?
If not now, then never.

The two forums that would suit us the best:

1. Discourse http://www.discourse.org/
Demo: https://meta.discourse.org/

Plug-ins:

Very cool, Discourse also has a google translate plugin, which could help us to talk better with China.

2. NodeBB https://nodebb.org/
Demo: http://forum.expii.com/

Plug-ins:

3. Simple Machines Forum (currently used) www.simplemachines.org



Happy voting and a good discussion!

ps.: My favorite is discourse

Seem to have missed phpbb forums i added. Can we please add it? It is not the prettiest forum bit has the most tools for community growth and development out of all of them.

I also have been in contact with taulant. He said he has received many requests to be the new owner of the forums, but he and the team decided they would prefer to give to me (I never asked him to own the forums, instead approaching him for the community at large, which is probably why).  After rceiving the forum from taulant I stated out loud to you chris that I am not comfortable with any one entity (no matter how much I personally trust them) to have ownership. Please dont forget this as we move forward.

The reason is actually simple. I also believe this is why taulant and team decided this route. I am interested in opening community discussion about this further when im ready in the coming days. For now please co sider talking amongst yourselves about the best way to give OWNERSHIP to bitshares community as a whole.

(P.S. I trust you to run them personally)
Fuzzy, when you speak of Ownership, do you refer to the ownership of the domain bitsharestalk.org? If not what else? 

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Re: [vote] Upgrade Forum Software
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2017, 09:57:14 pm »
Domain + forums xferred to hosting I chose.
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Re: [vote] Upgrade Forum Software
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2017, 03:35:03 am »
I Think discourses translation feature could be a huge benefit to our community!! i also like the solved answer plugin allowing people to find accepted answers to issues easily without trawling the whole tread; also if the meetup plugin would allow use to schedule our mumble hangouts for extra visibility i think that is also cool feature.

My only concern about this integration with sharebits that [member=602]fuzzy[/member] is working on. i think the requirements are simple i.e ability to send pm via api, post via api and receive pages (@username) via api. 

If the above is possible i would vote for discourse; hopefully there is another theme also that would make better use of a wide screen monitor

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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2017, 08:35:39 am »
I Think discourses translation feature could be a huge benefit to our community!! i

you can do it with 1 click in chrome already by the way