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[ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« on: January 22, 2018, 01:52:59 pm »
Payger - Payment + Messenger




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In 2017 the global Blockchain market cap grew over $700 billion USD and attracted millions of new users around the world. The leading exchanges Coinbase, Bitfinex and Bithumb struggled under the pressure of 200,000 new users per day and more pushing into the new digital economy. Drunk on the rush Coinbase´s mobile app even hit the number one at the Apple store just right before Christmas. So what comes next?

Once they get sober again they are shocked to realize that most crypto wallets on the market are poorly designed, complicated to use and not user-friendly for beginners at all. Transaction costs more than the minimum wage in America, transfers take hours and where can I spend my cryptos anyways?

We are a group of Blockchain enthusiasts located in Germany and our vision is to accelerate the transition to the blockchain based digital economy. Over the last months, we developed a new payment platform that leverages leading blockchains and will be a new home for your favourite crypto currencies.

It is called Payger.

Payger is the new payment platform for your favourite digital assets. We compared the leading payment systems today and started to combine the best features + designs and implemented the best technologies to develop Payger - the coin agnostic payment platform for your digital assets. Payger enables you to store, transfer and trade multiple digital assets and is providing global payment solutions for individuals and businesses.

The Payger platform consists of four main components:
- Payger Wallet – The browser wallet
- Payger App – Payment merged with messenger
- Payger API – Access to the Payger payment engine
- Payger Payment Engine – Blockchain based payment engine

Q2 2018 marks our first product launch of the Payger Wallet, that will target early adopter SMB and enterprises. The browser-based wallet will enable them to receive, exchange and transfer digital assets like Bitcoin, Ethereum, Dash and more in a user-friendly PayPal style interface.

In comparison to most other blockchain projects, we are not an R&D project. The Payger team combines senior executives, skilled software developers and blockchain enthusiasts with years of experience in banking, payments and AI technologies. We focus on using matured technologies and build on top of established blockchain ecosystems.

It is our goal to combine the best available technologies to provide a global real-time payment network, automate payment processes, reduce friction and settlement times resulting in lower costs across the whole value chain. In conclusion, Payger intends to become one of the leading PSP for blockchain-based payments and to complement or replace today´s market leaders such as Stripe, PayPal, Saxo Payment and Ant Financial.

Visit our website at Payger.com and sign up for our newsletter to learn more about our other exciting products to be released in 2018!


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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 01:57:00 pm »
update May 01 2018 - Launch www.Payger.com Website
update May 01 2018 - Launch www.t.me/Payger Telegram
update May 21 2018 - Launch Payger Wallet Alpha Version - wallet.payger.com
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 08:53:24 pm »
all the luck with the new project chris  +5%

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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 09:02:40 pm »
all the luck with the new project chris  +5%

Thank you Alfredo. I will release more steady updates within the next weeks. My full focus is on the release of the first web wallet.
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2018, 12:11:33 am »
Payger is an exit scam for the Blockpay project.

More on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2804399.0

Christoph defrauded Blockpay token buyers from the pre-ICO

He transferred proceeds from ICO funds on his own accounts.

https://busy.org/@stevepaterson/the-face-of-the-bitshares-foundation-ico-crowd-magazine-manager-annemieke-dirkes-threatens-to-blackmail-business-partners

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2018, 01:05:12 pm »
Payger is an exit scam for the Blockpay project.

More on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2804399.0

Christoph defrauded Blockpay token buyers from the pre-ICO

He transferred proceeds from ICO funds on his own accounts.

https://busy.org/@stevepaterson/the-face-of-the-bitshares-foundation-ico-crowd-magazine-manager-annemieke-dirkes-threatens-to-blackmail-business-partners

Surely Blockpay tokens are being brought forwards to this new project? After all, blockpay's website redirects to the payger website. If not, eww.
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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2018, 01:23:52 pm »
Surely Blockpay tokens are being brought forwards to this new project? After all, blockpay's website redirects to the payger website. If not, eww.

You are right @customminer. Until further notice, the BlockPay token stay the same and belong to the project. We are making good progress with the Payger development and just hired two additional full-time developers for bug fixing and security testing. We are close to a feature freeze and launch of the first mvp in Q2 2018. More updates via our monthly newsletter and here in the forum.

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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2018, 07:20:49 pm »
Payger is a fraud that is conversing the Blockpay pre-ICO funds for the beneficiary Christoph Hering.

There are only announcements about Payger, and nothing is backed up with anything. No developers are mentioned (though Christoph Hering said in Sep. 2017 they will be introduced the next weeks), there are countless contradictions in the scant comments he gave in the development newsletters (he doesn't even post those newsletters on the Payger one-page website other than sending it to Blockpay token holders), he lied about Payger being a rebranding of Blockpay (in fact it is a change of the corporate and ownership structure, with his lawyer dad pulling the strings), and he doesn't say anything about the whereabouts of the large part of the pre-ICO Blockpay funds (while there is evidence he has them on his private accounts).

Payger is an exit scam where he would get away with stealing the pre-ICO funds. He doesn't provide meaningful responses on the financial affairs. He ribbed off one of his previous business partners within Blockpay (the only guy who was honest and did a good job)  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2804399.msg30654738#msg30654738 .

Christoph Hering and his dad Wolfgang Hering (Bitshares corporate council) are criminals. They should be banned from the Bitshares community. Unvote these scumbags and spread the word!

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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2018, 11:33:39 pm »
Is for things like that BTS comunity most probably never can be taken seriously, this is only a nest for good intentions and bad actors, further more we tolerate all kind of abuse like this here in detriment of our own people, nobody seems to have to take any responsability of their actions, and we as a comunity tolerate this shit, is a shame, since the very begining the vast majority of projects just vanish in the air without explanation and of course with the money. ::)

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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2018, 07:59:13 pm »
Christoph Hering: Stop Payger and pay back the funds to the investors in Blockpay. You had agreed to the buyback time ago.

You and Ken Code ditched Blockpay, and stole the money.

There is no information about the corporate affairs of Blockpay/Payger, only meaningless development newsletters for some Payger backend website. Christoph Hering refuses any transparency on investor related issues.

Payger is a blatant scam, Christoph Hering and his dad are criminals.

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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2018, 04:24:50 pm »
Christoph Hering: Stop Payger and pay back the funds to the investors in Blockpay. You had agreed to the buyback time ago.

You and Ken Code ditched Blockpay, and stole the money.

There is no information about the corporate affairs of Blockpay/Payger, only meaningless development newsletters for some Payger backend website. Christoph Hering refuses any transparency on investor related issues.

Payger is a blatant scam, Christoph Hering and his dad are criminals.

You seem out of touch with our latest product development Rodrigo. The Payger website is online at www.payger.com and we are on time with our development roadmap. In our last Newsletter, send out this Monday, we reached out to several thousand people to recruit alpha tester of the Payger Wallet.

No funds have been stolen and we are transparent with our spendings and development roadmap.

More info are available at:
* www.payger.com
* www.medium.com/@payger
* www.telegram.me/payger
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2018, 10:56:37 pm »
I am not Rodrigo.

There is no meaningful update on the financial and corporate affairs of Blockpay. In short, the money is gone and went into the pockets of Christoph Hering and the Blockpay "CTO" Ken Code, a fraudster with a warrant in the US for various scams that always raised funds with nothing ever delivered, and a total impostor with no programming experience.

The only thing Christoph Hering tells about are so called development updates for a different entity called Payger. That project is not open source and has nothing to do with a crypto token project and the original Blockpay concept for which the ICO took place.

Again, Christoph Hering provide accounting for the Blockpay ICO funds. Don't weasle out with talking about Payger. You are/were Blockpay CEO and CFO, what happened with the funds. Tell that to investors and not distracting narratives about Payger.

With what funds did you pay your lavish cars, the advertising agency for polishing up your public image as "Bitshares celebrity", and your tax fines you had to pay because you had to declare the stolen funds to the tax Authorities in Germany. You gave a significant part of the ICO funds to the fraudster Ken Code, and the rest you took for yourself.

Payger is part of an exit scam strategy with the help of your disgusting lawyer dad, that should everybody know and check the facts. Payger was announced as rebranding of Blockpay (no convincing reason exists for that measure), while in fact it is a legally different entity that serves the purpose of the scam.
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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2018, 04:54:17 pm »
@sunbear So what is your relation with me then? What is your BitShares account name? Instead of spreading lies and harassing me you better check the facts.

  • The current affairs of BlockPay can be found at www.BlockPay.ch .
  • No money is stolen or gone, and all funds are public visible in the blockchain accounts.
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Our development status can be read here https://medium.com/@PaygerHQ/payger-the-new-payment-platform-for-your-favourite-digital-assets-2a5757f6e56f  . I recommend you read it first before spreading lies.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2018, 09:39:53 pm »
Nothing about the current affairs of Blockpay can be found. Blockpay.ch redirected to Payger.com, now this was changed with a meaningless answer that "tokens remain the same" and more information only in Q4. That's all you have to say since 2016 about the tokens?? It is an unbinding promise to investors, whereas in the meantime all funds ended up in limited corporations that are personally owned by you. It is an ICO scam, funds raised from investors need to be spent for a stated purpose and held in escrow or a  foundation. There is no DAC or DAO like entity underlying the Blockpay token on the Bitshares blockchain, ICO investors were betrayed. What you did with your lawyer dad is a scam.

Ken Code was paid out a significant part of the ICO funds, you had no right to do so. You gave him funds on the wrong believe that they were owned by you and Ken.

Ken Code scammed, the software was/is not functional, and even you came to that conclusion. Before you praised that crap and said it was finished and ready to use within a defined time frame when you held the ICO. None of your announcements and statements were ever materialized.

There is no transparency concerning the funds. They went into multiple accounts and it is not said what they were spent for. It is documented that there is a discrepancy of 430BTC,and other figures that you gave were also wrong.

The fact that you had to file a charge against yourself at the tax Authorities has to do with the improper setup of the company structure and the movements of the funds. That caused income taxes on your robbery that you had to pay -with yet more investors funds. Legitimate crypto projects with their foundations or escrows are not subject to that kind of taxes.

There are various witnesses for your lavish lifestyle.

All in all, there is a never ending shitshow of phoney announcements, lies and fraud. In effect you made yourself beneficial owner of the Payger companies with the ICO funds that were taken out of escrow. You refuse any meaningful statements about the Blockpay token and transparency on accounting. Where is the listing of the particular spendings of the funds by purpose?
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2018, 11:19:06 pm »
Christoph Hering does not give meaningful answers (if any).

The Blockpay ICO was from before the crypto rally of 2017, the funds that were raised in 2016 later became worth multi-million in fiat equivalent. Nothing would be in relation to the development and operational costs for Blockpay (all that was a fraud anyway).

Every crypto project where the executives don't disclose the financials is a fraud. Payger is an exit scam, it serves Christoph Hering for weaseling out of Blockpay and cover up the theft of the ICO funds.

The ICO scam is guided by the lawyer dad of Christoph Hering, Dr. Wolfgang Hering http://hering-law.de/english/wolfgang_hering.html. He violates the law. For instance, he does not respond on inquiries about the escrow contract, which is a legal requirement. He also helped Ken Code stealing his share out of the Blockpay funds, though Ken Code has a search warrant in the U.S. and Dr. Wolfgang is a lawyer accredited in New York.

The criminal lawyer Dr. Wolfgang is corporate council for several Bitshares entities. Every fraud that happens on the platform falls back on the overall reputation of Bitshares and its public acceptance.



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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2018, 11:04:59 pm »
Dear all, today I am very excited to announce the release of the Payger Wallet Alpha version as of May 21.05.2018.

We spent the last months heads down and developed the core back and front end features of the Payger Wallet. Payger Wallet is a redesigned and new web wallet for the BitShares blockchain. It marks the first element out of four of the Payger Ecosystem. If you want to convince yourself of the clarity and ease of use of the Payger Wallet, you can test the payment features exclusively in the alpha version.

I invite everyone to take part in the alpha testing group and help us to improve the platform. Those who are interested to help can register at the following link: https://bit.ly/2s2Rc0v

Here is a short reminder about Payger - the new digital web wallet for digital currencies

Payger is a combination of mobile payment and social media platform, which is characterized by a particularly simple usability. With Payger, digital currency trading is even easier now. Users can transfer money in seconds, trade bitcoin against ether, and manage multiple digital currencies at the same time.
Payger focuses on a user-friendly handling of the private keys and has developed its own comprehensive password recovery tool. Users can therefore not only view and export their private keys at any time; in addition, they have the option to reset their Payger user password and PIN. Via SMS and e-mail notifications, all account activities such as transactions, logins or password updates are always kept in view - Payger users always know what's happening in their account. The focus is on the comprehensive payment features: By means of the Payger Wallet, users can henceforth buy or sell digital currencies. In addition, Payger enables the sending and exchange of digital currencies. Payger users will soon be able to send invoices by e-mail and pay in digital currencies.

Current Payger Wallet Features:
  • Account Registration, including KYC
  • Deposit / Withdraw of Bitcoin, Ether, Dash, Litecoin, Steem, BitShares
  • Exchange of selected BitShares assets
  • Transfer of assets
  • Automatic notification for login, transfer, password change, etc.
  • Account recovery
  • Value stamping
  • Full transaction history export
  • Tax report export

For more information, feedback and our progress stay in touch with us on our telegram: https://t.me/payger

Also check out our website: www.payger.com
Stay up to date on Payger via our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/PaygerHQ/
Follow Payger on Twitter: https://twitter.com/PaygerHQ.

 
Here are some screenshots from the Payger Wallet

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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2018, 06:45:25 pm »
Payger is a scam on Blockpay investors. Everyone reading this thread can verify that Christoph Hering is not giving due disclosure on the financials and corporate affairs. He ignores inquiries since last year. 430BTC from Blockpay disappeared, which is documented on the related Bitcointalk thread and from some leaks. That is only the tip of the iceberg...

Projects and individuals that scammed investors should be banned from Bitshares. More so if they seek important roles within the Bitshares community, like being committee member aspirants, public speakers and corporate lawyers.

What happened with Blockpay is killing the platform. There should be no excuse for that. Christoph Hering could have resolved the issues with Blockpay token holders last year, when he already agreed on a buyback that he later ignored. Instead he tries to weasel out  and embezzle the ICO funds. The money trail tells it all.
 
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2018, 07:48:13 pm »
He closes all public channels https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2804399.msg35187496#msg35187496 (that thread contains a lot of information about the Hering scammers.)

The Blockpay website, facebook, chat etc. was already deleted last year (with all that lies and phoney announcements.)

Payger being a rebranding of Blockpay is just another lie. It is a legally different entity, another token, and where any commitment is carefully avoided.
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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2018, 11:50:46 pm »

No funds have been stolen and we are transparent with our spendings and development roadmap.

More info are available at:
* www.payger.com
* www.medium.com/@payger
* www.telegram.me/payger

This is a typical response from this notorious liar and fraudster.

He is not transparent with his spendings, and no meaningful roadmap exists.

Just in case there is a "misunderstanding", Dr. Wolfgang Hering: Make clear what you mean by defamation, as that is what you ordered a law firm to take action.

Now more funds are disappearing, just a few days ago:

https://cryptofresh.com/u/echo1

So where is the transparency for that, did you tell shit again??

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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2018, 06:31:39 pm »

No funds have been stolen and we are transparent with our spendings and development roadmap.

More info are available at:
* www.payger.com
* www.medium.com/@payger
* www.telegram.me/payger

This is a typical response from this notorious liar and fraudster.

He is not transparent with his spendings, and no meaningful roadmap exists.

Just in case there is a "misunderstanding", Dr. Wolfgang Hering: Make clear what you mean by defamation, as that is what you ordered a law firm to take action.

Now more funds are disappearing, just a few days ago:

https://cryptofresh.com/u/echo1

So where is the transparency for that, did you tell shit again??

No good developer works for free. With Payger we created a professional team of senior developers who are currently developing the Payger Wallet, API, Merchant services and more. That costs money. The Payger Wallet v1 is live and running and is a new user-friendly wallet using the BitShares Blockchain. Give it a try and test for yourself what we are building. It is worth it.
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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2018, 05:40:50 pm »

No good developer works for free. With Payger we created a professional team of senior developers who are currently developing the Payger Wallet, API, Merchant services and more. That costs money. The Payger Wallet v1 is live and running and is a new user-friendly wallet using the BitShares Blockchain. Give it a try and test for yourself what we are building. It is worth it.

Some time ago in 2017 you said that developers will be announced the next weeks...

But, you are distracting from the core issues, like always.

Payger is a scam on Blockpay investors. You were stealing the major part of those funds together with Ken Code, and with the help of your lawyer dad.

Don't try to allude that costs for Payger are in relation to the disappeared pre-ICO funds.

You and your dad won't get away with that...

You will get another tax charge soon...
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2018, 08:05:09 pm »

No good developer works for free. With Payger we created a professional team of senior developers who are currently developing the Payger Wallet, API, Merchant services and more. That costs money. The Payger Wallet v1 is live and running and is a new user-friendly wallet using the BitShares Blockchain. Give it a try and test for yourself what we are building. It is worth it.

Some time ago in 2017 you said that developers will be announced the next weeks...

But, you are distracting from the core issues, like always.

Payger is a scam on Blockpay investors. You were stealing the major part of those funds together with Ken Code, and with the help of your lawyer dad.

Don't try to allude that costs for Payger are in relation to the disappeared pre-ICO funds.

You and your dad won't get away with that...

You will get another tax charge soon...

Your answers show me that you did not try wallet.payger.com yet. Payger is not a scam and I did not steal any funds. Your accusations are wrong. Also no pre-ico funds have disappeared. I am building what was announced in 2016 in the pre-ico and everyone can go to www.payger.com and see the results of my work.
Stop spreading wrong accusations, your statements are wrong sunbear.
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2018, 04:35:36 pm »

Your answers show me that you did not try wallet.payger.com yet. Payger is not a scam and I did not steal any funds. Your accusations are wrong. Also no pre-ico funds have disappeared. I am building what was announced in 2016 in the pre-ico and everyone can go to www.payger.com and see the results of my work.
Stop spreading wrong accusations, your statements are wrong sunbear.

I had told you before that I am not interested in Payger.

Payger is a scam on Blockpay token holders (read what I wrote and do not reply inaccurately), it is a different legal entity and a different token http://cryptofresh.com/a/PAYGER . Payger is not a rebranding of Blockpay as you were trying to allude. Payger is an exit scam on Blockpay token holders, where you attempt to conceal the various embezzlement that occurred with Blockpay pre-ICO funds by using a different entity from Blockpay.

You refused any affirmation concerning the Blockpay token. The Blockpay token is defunct by now. Then you told something that in Q4 there will be a statement about the token. Notwithstanding that you violate provisions under German law by not giving due information for a security that you illegally sold, you either attempt to coerce Blockpay token holders into accepting the different entity Payger or declare insolvency on Payger. These are only two typical scenarios, what you are doing falls into the realm of corporate fraud where there are varieties of such schemes.
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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2018, 04:08:01 pm »
On Apr. 19, 2017 Christoph Hering declared that Blockpay has reserves of 540 BTC.



Shortly thereafter he disappeared, and the BTC accounts were mostly empty.

https://steemit.com/news/@kencode/chris4210-where-are-you

... If that is true, then where is all that money?! I see you have been recently taking out hundreds of thousands of dollars, where did all that money go?!
https://blockchain.info/address/37jDFfS9WJEPL33YivJbnjfQQNU5RjFWFY


All internals of Blockpay were assuming he made the run with the money https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/bitshares-open-source-hangout-25-2017-06-16 . He did not tell anyone from within Blockpay what happened with the funds.

He never gave a meaningful response on that issue up to now.

On Oct. 22, 2017 he declared that 110 BTC were left https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587349.msg23349660#msg23349660 (actually it was more like 80 BTC at that time).

Concerning Payger he said on Bitcointalk through one of his fake profiles "pie777" something like all remaining funds will be used off upon start of Payger. Posts from that profile were deleted in the meanwhile.




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