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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2019, 08:10:01 pm »
"Sockpuppet" is clearly "the artist formerly known as funkit" . Its obvious from style and all the points he has made on the telegram channel.  Funny that he needs a fake id account when "funkit" is as fake a name as they come.  What reputation could he possibly be protecting?

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Methinks funkit's sockpuppet doth protest too much.
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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2019, 09:07:39 pm »
somebody maybe have interest, here is the list of transfer which donated to beos more than 1M BTS.

Code: [Select]
25227646.7152, blocktrades
22279422.0373, angel3
21114050, cadord-ozois7
14600000, invictus3
10207991, enkibeos1
10000000, stan3
9868885.9805, btsnow
8673452.5392, ibilitian-scoltock6
7990211.5226, cievia-waugaman3
7593039, rain2beos
7430923.9399, haeassa-granovsky5
6550000, abina.rivard3
keebler-kahn7, 6500256.2339
5422667.53589, cadord-ozois7
5172186.6832, jeraud-kanze2
4777689.69869, geravia-mackinnon8
4338906.2565, qqq1qqq1
4086728.3216, quonael-lievesley1
4064940, beos-bunker
3920520.4724, wesley-waugaman3
3816315.2519, stratolaunch
3647937, wb18919800929
gugugu33, 3539300
3189864, bafohald.degeorge3
3044242, austintexas11
3029462.5877, qqq1qqq1
3000099, iamfrom70s
gugugu33, 3000000
3000000, qqq1qqq1
2999999, newlandbeos2
2998499, billion-hero-prize3
2952927.2604, bts2beos
2859200, rvrtsbts
2500049.0373, thread2
2209480.0536, nana-roseannadana3
2191926.6782, kedaliwin-tefft4
2139791.954, qqq1qqq1
2117555.3873, rsbitshares666666
2004559.656, dadossi-chandra1
1999999.5187, goodc0re2
1800100, x-man
1673005, medabeos1
1561566, jabb3rwocky
1500000.3736, stan3
1498960.8691, hirendra-nakamoto6
1450000, tbone2
1428000, teiva
1415726.0071, michael22
1378395.2358, ralibaen-hagman2
1300001.6149, invictus3
1300000, yvg1900beos
1268583.9373, beos-gurjieff
gugugu33, 1258820
1200000, beos-lzr1900
1200000, beos-lzr1900
1141587.4705, zetaliron-frayser1
gugugu33, 1122992
1106661, kaizen305beos
1079000.5226, beos-lzr1900
beos-lzr1900, 1019999.5679
1006421, lisa86
1000499.5186, hlmbj4r5

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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2019, 09:23:08 pm »
The account histories are interesting.

Apparently quite some genesis funds are claimed, just for BEOS.

HUGE.

Is it I3's hidden treasury? The AGS fund?
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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2019, 10:05:49 pm »
any account appeared in this list will never get my support for witness or committee or worker.
this means they gave up the ownership of their share, the word sockpuppet fit them very much, they are unreliable.


somebody maybe have interest, here is the list of transfer which donated to beos more than 1M BTS.

Code: [Select]
25227646.7152, blocktrades
22279422.0373, angel3
21114050, cadord-ozois7
14600000, invictus3
10207991, enkibeos1
10000000, stan3
9868885.9805, btsnow
8673452.5392, ibilitian-scoltock6
7990211.5226, cievia-waugaman3
7593039, rain2beos
7430923.9399, haeassa-granovsky5
6550000, abina.rivard3
keebler-kahn7, 6500256.2339
5422667.53589, cadord-ozois7
5172186.6832, jeraud-kanze2
4777689.69869, geravia-mackinnon8
4338906.2565, qqq1qqq1
4086728.3216, quonael-lievesley1
4064940, beos-bunker
3920520.4724, wesley-waugaman3
3816315.2519, stratolaunch
3647937, wb18919800929
gugugu33, 3539300
3189864, bafohald.degeorge3
3044242, austintexas11
3029462.5877, qqq1qqq1
3000099, iamfrom70s
gugugu33, 3000000
3000000, qqq1qqq1
2999999, newlandbeos2
2998499, billion-hero-prize3
2952927.2604, bts2beos
2859200, rvrtsbts
2500049.0373, thread2
2209480.0536, nana-roseannadana3
2191926.6782, kedaliwin-tefft4
2139791.954, qqq1qqq1
2117555.3873, rsbitshares666666
2004559.656, dadossi-chandra1
1999999.5187, goodc0re2
1800100, x-man
1673005, medabeos1
1561566, jabb3rwocky
1500000.3736, stan3
1498960.8691, hirendra-nakamoto6
1450000, tbone2
1428000, teiva
1415726.0071, michael22
1378395.2358, ralibaen-hagman2
1300001.6149, invictus3
1300000, yvg1900beos
1268583.9373, beos-gurjieff
gugugu33, 1258820
1200000, beos-lzr1900
1200000, beos-lzr1900
1141587.4705, zetaliron-frayser1
gugugu33, 1122992
1106661, kaizen305beos
1079000.5226, beos-lzr1900
beos-lzr1900, 1019999.5679
1006421, lisa86
1000499.5186, hlmbj4r5

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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2019, 11:19:56 pm »
any account appeared in this list will never get my support for witness or committee or worker.
this means they gave up the ownership of their share, the word sockpuppet fit them very much, they are unreliable.


somebody maybe have interest, here is the list of transfer which donated to beos more than 1M BTS.

Code: [Select]
25227646.7152, blocktrades
22279422.0373, angel3
21114050, cadord-ozois7
14600000, invictus3
10207991, enkibeos1
10000000, stan3
9868885.9805, btsnow
8673452.5392, ibilitian-scoltock6
7990211.5226, cievia-waugaman3
7593039, rain2beos
7430923.9399, haeassa-granovsky5
6550000, abina.rivard3
keebler-kahn7, 6500256.2339
5422667.53589, cadord-ozois7
5172186.6832, jeraud-kanze2
4777689.69869, geravia-mackinnon8
4338906.2565, qqq1qqq1
4086728.3216, quonael-lievesley1
4064940, beos-bunker
3920520.4724, wesley-waugaman3
3816315.2519, stratolaunch
3647937, wb18919800929
gugugu33, 3539300
3189864, bafohald.degeorge3
3044242, austintexas11
3029462.5877, qqq1qqq1
3000099, iamfrom70s
gugugu33, 3000000
3000000, qqq1qqq1
2999999, newlandbeos2
2998499, billion-hero-prize3
2952927.2604, bts2beos
2859200, rvrtsbts
2500049.0373, thread2
2209480.0536, nana-roseannadana3
2191926.6782, kedaliwin-tefft4
2139791.954, qqq1qqq1
2117555.3873, rsbitshares666666
2004559.656, dadossi-chandra1
1999999.5187, goodc0re2
1800100, x-man
1673005, medabeos1
1561566, jabb3rwocky
1500000.3736, stan3
1498960.8691, hirendra-nakamoto6
1450000, tbone2
1428000, teiva
1415726.0071, michael22
1378395.2358, ralibaen-hagman2
1300001.6149, invictus3
1300000, yvg1900beos
1268583.9373, beos-gurjieff
gugugu33, 1258820
1200000, beos-lzr1900
1200000, beos-lzr1900
1141587.4705, zetaliron-frayser1
gugugu33, 1122992
1106661, kaizen305beos
1079000.5226, beos-lzr1900
beos-lzr1900, 1019999.5679
1006421, lisa86
1000499.5186, hlmbj4r5

Does that go for anyone who has ever put any of their bitshares on a CEX? Or anyone who has ever bought bitshares on a CEX and kept them there for a while before bringing them to the DEX?

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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2019, 12:21:10 am »
There is big different between CEX gateway and BEOS.
people have to deposit shares to CEX if they want to trade.
but I can't find any accepatable reason why people need to deposit shares to beos.
for the purpose of raindrop, you don't need to rob peoples shares ownership, you don't need to rob people's vote power,
but these people just do it without doubt, they deposit shares to beos for only 1 reason, kneel and show loyalty to stan the godfather of beos.

Does that go for anyone who has ever put any of their bitshares on a CEX? Or anyone who has ever bought bitshares on a CEX and kept them there for a while before bringing them to the DEX?

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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2019, 07:20:33 am »
There is big different between CEX gateway and BEOS.
people have to deposit shares to CEX if they want to trade.
but I can't find any accepatable reason why people need to deposit shares to beos.
for the purpose of raindrop, you don't need to rob peoples shares ownership, you don't need to rob people's vote power,
but these people just do it without doubt, they deposit shares to beos for only 1 reason, kneel and show loyalty to stan the godfather of beos.

Does that go for anyone who has ever put any of their bitshares on a CEX? Or anyone who has ever bought bitshares on a CEX and kept them there for a while before bringing them to the DEX?

他们的钱他们自己负责,有些宗教是要信徒捐出他们全副身家的,只要信徒心甘情愿就行了,一个愿打一个愿挨,干嘛替别人担心 :o

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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2019, 10:22:36 am »
somebody maybe have interest, here is the list of transfer which donated to beos more than 1M BTS.

Code: [Select]
25227646.7152, blocktrades
22279422.0373, angel3
21114050, cadord-ozois7
14600000, invictus3
10207991, enkibeos1
10000000, stan3
9868885.9805, btsnow
8673452.5392, ibilitian-scoltock6
7990211.5226, cievia-waugaman3
7593039, rain2beos
7430923.9399, haeassa-granovsky5
6550000, abina.rivard3
keebler-kahn7, 6500256.2339
5422667.53589, cadord-ozois7
5172186.6832, jeraud-kanze2
4777689.69869, geravia-mackinnon8
4338906.2565, qqq1qqq1
4086728.3216, quonael-lievesley1
4064940, beos-bunker
3920520.4724, wesley-waugaman3
3816315.2519, stratolaunch
3647937, wb18919800929
gugugu33, 3539300
3189864, bafohald.degeorge3
3044242, austintexas11
3029462.5877, qqq1qqq1
3000099, iamfrom70s
gugugu33, 3000000
3000000, qqq1qqq1
2999999, newlandbeos2
2998499, billion-hero-prize3
2952927.2604, bts2beos
2859200, rvrtsbts
2500049.0373, thread2
2209480.0536, nana-roseannadana3
2191926.6782, kedaliwin-tefft4
2139791.954, qqq1qqq1
2117555.3873, rsbitshares666666
2004559.656, dadossi-chandra1
1999999.5187, goodc0re2
1800100, x-man
1673005, medabeos1
1561566, jabb3rwocky
1500000.3736, stan3
1498960.8691, hirendra-nakamoto6
1450000, tbone2
1428000, teiva
1415726.0071, michael22
1378395.2358, ralibaen-hagman2
1300001.6149, invictus3
1300000, yvg1900beos
1268583.9373, beos-gurjieff
gugugu33, 1258820
1200000, beos-lzr1900
1200000, beos-lzr1900
1141587.4705, zetaliron-frayser1
gugugu33, 1122992
1106661, kaizen305beos
1079000.5226, beos-lzr1900
beos-lzr1900, 1019999.5679
1006421, lisa86
1000499.5186, hlmbj4r5
X-man?????

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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2019, 10:51:37 am »
There is big different between CEX gateway and BEOS.
people have to deposit shares to CEX if they want to trade.
but I can't find any accepatable reason why people need to deposit shares to beos.
for the purpose of raindrop, you don't need to rob peoples shares ownership, you don't need to rob people's vote power,
but these people just do it without doubt, they deposit shares to beos for only 1 reason, kneel and show loyalty to stan the godfather of beos.

Does that go for anyone who has ever put any of their bitshares on a CEX? Or anyone who has ever bought bitshares on a CEX and kept them there for a while before bringing them to the DEX?

他们的钱他们自己负责,有些宗教是要信徒捐出他们全副身家的,只要信徒心甘情愿就行了,一个愿打一个愿挨,干嘛替别人担心 :o

那是正确的

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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2019, 10:54:33 am »
somebody maybe have interest, here is the list of transfer which donated to beos more than 1M BTS.

Code: [Select]
25227646.7152, blocktrades
22279422.0373, angel3
21114050, cadord-ozois7
14600000, invictus3
10207991, enkibeos1
10000000, stan3
9868885.9805, btsnow
8673452.5392, ibilitian-scoltock6
7990211.5226, cievia-waugaman3
7593039, rain2beos
7430923.9399, haeassa-granovsky5
6550000, abina.rivard3
keebler-kahn7, 6500256.2339
5422667.53589, cadord-ozois7
5172186.6832, jeraud-kanze2
4777689.69869, geravia-mackinnon8
4338906.2565, qqq1qqq1
4086728.3216, quonael-lievesley1
4064940, beos-bunker
3920520.4724, wesley-waugaman3
3816315.2519, stratolaunch
3647937, wb18919800929
gugugu33, 3539300
3189864, bafohald.degeorge3
3044242, austintexas11
3029462.5877, qqq1qqq1
3000099, iamfrom70s
gugugu33, 3000000
3000000, qqq1qqq1
2999999, newlandbeos2
2998499, billion-hero-prize3
2952927.2604, bts2beos
2859200, rvrtsbts
2500049.0373, thread2
2209480.0536, nana-roseannadana3
2191926.6782, kedaliwin-tefft4
2139791.954, qqq1qqq1
2117555.3873, rsbitshares666666
2004559.656, dadossi-chandra1
1999999.5187, goodc0re2
1800100, x-man
1673005, medabeos1
1561566, jabb3rwocky
1500000.3736, stan3
1498960.8691, hirendra-nakamoto6
1450000, tbone2
1428000, teiva
1415726.0071, michael22
1378395.2358, ralibaen-hagman2
1300001.6149, invictus3
1300000, yvg1900beos
1268583.9373, beos-gurjieff
gugugu33, 1258820
1200000, beos-lzr1900
1200000, beos-lzr1900
1141587.4705, zetaliron-frayser1
gugugu33, 1122992
1106661, kaizen305beos
1079000.5226, beos-lzr1900
beos-lzr1900, 1019999.5679
1006421, lisa86
1000499.5186, hlmbj4r5
X-man?????
My mistick  x-main!=xman

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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2019, 10:56:02 am »
There is big different between CEX gateway and BEOS.
people have to deposit shares to CEX if they want to trade.
but I can't find any accepatable reason why people need to deposit shares to beos.
for the purpose of raindrop, you don't need to rob peoples shares ownership, you don't need to rob people's vote power,
but these people just do it without doubt, they deposit shares to beos for only 1 reason, kneel and show loyalty to stan the godfather of beos.

Does that go for anyone who has ever put any of their bitshares on a CEX? Or anyone who has ever bought bitshares on a CEX and kept them there for a while before bringing them to the DEX?

BEOS is not "robbing" anything or anyone. Participating BTS shareholders are voluntarily giving their voting power to BEOS so that BEOS is enabled to integrate with bitshares. This will open up bitshares to the larger EOS community and bring value to both bitshares and BEOS.

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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2019, 08:52:24 pm »
BEOS is not "robbing" anything or anyone. Participating BTS shareholders are voluntarily giving their voting power to BEOS so that BEOS is enabled to integrate with bitshares. This will open up bitshares to the larger EOS community and bring value to both bitshares and BEOS.
what's your meanning about "they need voting power to enabled to integrate with bitshares"?
will this not be approved by other bitshares holders?
did this include vote in dead witness?
did this include vote in nobody known's commiittee?
did this include vote out others who didn't show loyal to stan?
All bull shit.
and this is why BEOS and the peoples who supportted BEOS's bull shit will lost my support.

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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2019, 09:10:10 pm »
BEOS is not "robbing" anything or anyone. Participating BTS shareholders are voluntarily giving their voting power to BEOS so that BEOS is enabled to integrate with bitshares. This will open up bitshares to the larger EOS community and bring value to both bitshares and BEOS.
what's your meanning about "they need voting power to enabled to integrate with bitshares"?
will this not be approved by other bitshares holders?
did this include vote in dead witness?
did this include vote in nobody known's commiittee?
did this include vote out others who didn't show loyal to stan?
All bull shit.
and this is why BEOS and the peoples who supportted BEOS's bull shit will lost my support.

Basically to put in a WP to integrate BEOS with BTS. Yes it will have to be approved by the BTS community.

We are voting in many witnesses that have shown interest or previous community witnesses that may be interested in coming back to BTS. We have had several good discussions with BP's as of late and hope to use our votes to further decentralize the witness structure.

What nobody knowns? We all know that the evangelist account is my committee account and godfather is stans. Other members of the community have different accounts for witness/bp/committee versus their personal accounts. No secret and not unknown.

Last - many people being voted for are not loyal to stan, some are eben outright HOSTILE to Stan, myself and BEOS - yet we continue to vote for them. So that negates that premise.


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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2019, 11:32:58 pm »
BEOS is not "robbing" anything or anyone. Participating BTS shareholders are voluntarily giving their voting power to BEOS so that BEOS is enabled to integrate with bitshares. This will open up bitshares to the larger EOS community and bring value to both bitshares and BEOS.
what's your meanning about "they need voting power to enabled to integrate with bitshares"?
will this not be approved by other bitshares holders?
did this include vote in dead witness?
did this include vote in nobody known's commiittee?
did this include vote out others who didn't show loyal to stan?
All bull shit.
and this is why BEOS and the peoples who supportted BEOS's bull shit will lost my support.

Basically to put in a WP to integrate BEOS with BTS. Yes it will have to be approved by the BTS community.

We are voting in many witnesses that have shown interest or previous community witnesses that may be interested in coming back to BTS. We have had several good discussions with BP's as of late and hope to use our votes to further decentralize the witness structure.

What nobody knowns? We all know that the evangelist account is my committee account and godfather is stans. Other members of the community have different accounts for witness/bp/committee versus their personal accounts. No secret and not unknown.

Last - many people being voted for are not loyal to stan, some are eben outright HOSTILE to Stan, myself and BEOS - yet we continue to vote for them. So that negates that premise.

could you point out who said stan is the godfather of bts?
could you point out where is the commiittee application thread of godfather and evangelist?
and yes, I know many people being voted for are not loyal to stan, we known many dead witness be voted in by stan, sure dead account can't loyal to stan.
and can you tell me who is delegate.freedom, could you point out even one post of this account? could you explain why this nobody by supported instead of some guys from like openleger, bts.ai, bts++?
and can you point out any input from beos about the poll, for example: why they didn't support reduce mssr to 1.01, and after one day they change to support?
As I know, stan said anybody didn't give him BTS means didn't support beos, and didn't worth his support. this diffinitely means beos is agains the main bitshares community.

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Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2019, 08:00:29 am »
Participating BTS shareholders are voluntarily giving their voting power to BEOS so that BEOS is enabled to integrate with bitshares.

Erm, no. They voluntarily lock up their BTS to receive shares from the raindrop.
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