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Here is the doc that was linked in the on-chain worker proposal
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fQWuIZY_odslF40IhD8Hybf_-0KuFWaZcA6355_tREI/edit

Please note that BTS is not an appropriate abbreviation for BitShares. BTS is the core token, and that usage causes confusion (and has caused a lot of confusion especially in the regulatory area). I would suggest to not use that abbreviation for any kind of marketing.
Furthermore it was mentioned there would be an escrow, but from the account that has created the worker it it seems that this idea was abandoned. Could you please comment on that?
« Last Edit: June 21, 2019, 07:19:00 am by sschiessl »

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Yay! Thanks for your vote of confidence and guidance.  8)

Completely agree on marketing budget, will think on that now.

As for profits, I think we should return this back to the community since we would be front-loading the expenses for ourselves internally as well as paying EVOLV for their services out of the BitShares coffers. Frankly the videos of sessions **could** be an ongoing possible income stream (for BitShares) that the general (non-BitShares public) might be interested in purchasing after the fact.

We did a poll in Telegram which indicated people seemed to like Vegas as a venue for it and the 27-28th timeslot:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ez-mK-oWSQ3WMb7xymatjL3zgH8LGYC6/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-VMYZ9N6Vl39X69T7w7Wswu8HEXuhLxE/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-UrokeT_QS8Xve0Y9c8punu-Gjp8StLi/view?usp=sharing

Happy to run some additional ones if you think that would help. Any questions in particular we should ask?

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Oof, been so busy, I only got a chance to go through this thread now.

Overall, I support our presence in WCC as I believe this kind of exposure will be great for BitShares, especially if combined with a marketing push....which thankfully I see people slowly getting into, see Stefan's worker (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27747.0), thul3's proposal (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28444.0)  and Bench's proposal (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28495.0).

We definately need more workers like this (or even a larger one if anyone's up for it).

As far as the NABC at the same time is concerned, the base costs are really good. I don't see a marketing/promotion budget for it however. If we want people to come/register/participate in the hackathon, a promotion budget will be needed.

Also, there is mention of a possible profit from this event. What will be done with it?

I'd like to see a "promoted" poll/questionnaire we can all share via steem/twitter/etc. to better judge interest and evaluate the potential of an NABC.


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Great questions Stefan! I asked the organizers and the are open to us doing a Keynote, there are two rooms hosting keynotes at WCC so there are options. Also, Stan Larimer is already speaking so just need to discuss some logistics. I'll tag you in the telegram as we work out those details and post the outcome of that discussion here on the forum as well.

As for attendance, it's a bit hard to say, however, we can make an effort to poll the audience for interest and make some guesstimates. I will say that Bitcoin/Blockchain conferences are an ecosystem in and of themselves and it seems like people live for those things haha. So, usually people are able to take the time off due to working in the industry itself, however, I've met non-crypto industry people who will usually attend a day or two depending on their schedule. The fact that it's partially on a weekend might actually work in our favor from that standpoint.

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Thanks for the answers. I take it that the answer for B) then is that there is no escrow? I'm not asking this to be annoying, I'm asking this considering the background and what would benefit the worker the most imo.

Here are more comments :)

1. The pro forma mentions costs and possible incomes. Can you please state clearly what the maximum budget required from the blockchain?
2. You talk about Keynote, does that mean BitShares will be able to present a Keynote at WCC?
3. You mention DEVCON that is supposed to be happening at the same time. What is the difference, and are there any details known?
4. Will you be seeking sponsors, and if so would that reduce the amount that will be taken from the blockchain similar to DevCon?

EDIT: Because it just popped in my head in the other marketing worker: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28444.msg330767#msg330767

5. How will the invoicing happen? I would hate to see VAT appearing that is then being billed to the blockchain. Did you look into this by any chance already? If you are confident that will not be the case, disregard this  last question please.

Answers posted in OP as an update.

Side note - Yes on sponsors as well, in which case those funds would offset any cost to the blockchain.

The entire conference is Bitshares based - so a lot of speakers and keynotes will take place. We aim for this to be a very well rounded event for the entire Bitshares community.

Thanks for the answers, found them now. For 2 a follow up: Keynote I meant at the WCC main event, not at the BitShares pre-conference. Is that the keynote you were referencing?

How do you estimate the attendance for a Sunday and Monday considering that the main event is thereafter? I'm not familiar with american conference planning especially from employers side (people would miss the whole week).

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Sounds amazing, would love to see this happen.

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Thanks for the answers. I take it that the answer for B) then is that there is no escrow? I'm not asking this to be annoying, I'm asking this considering the background and what would benefit the worker the most imo.

Here are more comments :)

1. The pro forma mentions costs and possible incomes. Can you please state clearly what the maximum budget required from the blockchain?
2. You talk about Keynote, does that mean BitShares will be able to present a Keynote at WCC?
3. You mention DEVCON that is supposed to be happening at the same time. What is the difference, and are there any details known?
4. Will you be seeking sponsors, and if so would that reduce the amount that will be taken from the blockchain similar to DevCon?

EDIT: Because it just popped in my head in the other marketing worker: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28444.msg330767#msg330767

5. How will the invoicing happen? I would hate to see VAT appearing that is then being billed to the blockchain. Did you look into this by any chance already? If you are confident that will not be the case, disregard this  last question please.

Answers posted in OP as an update.

Side note - Yes on sponsors as well, in which case those funds would offset any cost to the blockchain.

The entire conference is Bitshares based - so a lot of speakers and keynotes will take place. We aim for this to be a very well rounded event for the entire Bitshares community.

Will get back to you tomorrow


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Support. Filming?

Yes we will film for sure. Looking into livestream options as well for those that cannot make it in person.

Thanks for your support!

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Thanks for the answers. I take it that the answer for B) then is that there is no escrow? I'm not asking this to be annoying, I'm asking this considering the background and what would benefit the worker the most imo.

Here are more comments :)

1. The pro forma mentions costs and possible incomes. Can you please state clearly what the maximum budget required from the blockchain?
2. You talk about Keynote, does that mean BitShares will be able to present a Keynote at WCC?
3. You mention DEVCON that is supposed to be happening at the same time. What is the difference, and are there any details known?
4. Will you be seeking sponsors, and if so would that reduce the amount that will be taken from the blockchain similar to DevCon?

EDIT: Because it just popped in my head in the other marketing worker: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28444.msg330767#msg330767

5. How will the invoicing happen? I would hate to see VAT appearing that is then being billed to the blockchain. Did you look into this by any chance already? If you are confident that will not be the case, disregard this  last question please.

Answers posted in OP as an update.

Side note - Yes on sponsors as well, in which case those funds would offset any cost to the blockchain.

The entire conference is Bitshares based - so a lot of speakers and keynotes will take place. We aim for this to be a very well rounded event for the entire Bitshares community.

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Thanks for the answers. I take it that the answer for B) then is that there is no escrow? I'm not asking this to be annoying, I'm asking this considering the background and what would benefit the worker the most imo.

Here are more comments :)

1. The pro forma mentions costs and possible incomes. Can you please state clearly what the maximum budget required from the blockchain?
2. You talk about Keynote, does that mean BitShares will be able to present a Keynote at WCC?
3. You mention DEVCON that is supposed to be happening at the same time. What is the difference, and are there any details known?
4. Will you be seeking sponsors, and if so would that reduce the amount that will be taken from the blockchain similar to DevCon?

EDIT: Because it just popped in my head in the other marketing worker: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28444.msg330767#msg330767

5. How will the invoicing happen? I would hate to see VAT appearing that is then being billed to the blockchain. Did you look into this by any chance already? If you are confident that will not be the case, disregard this  last question please.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2019, 05:23:55 am by sschiessl »

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EVOLV staff just relayed to us:

We also have a global press release going out regarding the events participating in Vegas Blockchain Week and we would like to include the NA Bitshares event. It just may not give you enough time to get approval. We’re releasing on May 31st and need to have it in Monday so it can be translated in all languages.

They are also willing to work with us on a deposit amount versus the full balance in order for us to secure the venue and advertise.

They really like graphene and Bitshares and are willing to work with us.

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Currently John Conlin (Committee), Jonathon Bahai, Aaron Mangal, Myself, and Dan Notestien.

Aaron is a long time BTS community member and has attended WCC in the past. He has also done content for BTS, including this: https://coincentral.com/what-is-bitshares/

Currently Aaron is managing the pre-WP. John was going to manage the other Devconn WP being posted that will be happening in conjunction with the WCC event.

Right now the budget required via the pro-forma is posted in the OP, showing a net profit from the event if those numbers are hit, even when adding in team expenses.

pro forma = https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kSRQ6GGvXfVoucdyWWRQMyNq-ulQDjwa/view?usp=sharing


Since ticket sales will be occurring at same time payout from worker is going on, I would propose we end worker once it breaks even (with a cushion for team expense) so worker funds for other projects are not affected, and any additional income being placed in holding for the next conference.

We are not guaranteed to hit those numbers, I think that the price should be around $197.00.

Timing is good since we have 5 full months to promote for it.




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