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BAIP7(https://github.com/bitshares/baips/blob/master/baip-0007.md)
    BAIP7: Proposal on bitASSETS reward and BTS destruction, The purpose of this proposal is to establish a scientific financial model of BTS, make reasonable use of the commission income of the committee, open up resources and reduce expenditure, and promote the stable growth of BTS system value.

Now 2 poll workers have been created:

1.14.262 Poll-BAIP7-Implement bitASSETS reward and BTS destruction
1.14.263 Poll-BAIP7-Do Not Implement bitASSETS reward and BTS destruction

According to BAIP procedure definition, the BAIP7 will be considered approved while below 3 criteria are met:

1.worker 1.14.262 get more voting power than 1.14.263 worker.
2.worker 1.14.262 get more voting power than BAIP-Threshold Worker 1.14.236.
3.Both No.1 & 2 above last for three consecutive days.

Special note: in essence, such voting is only a way for the community to express their opinions. The real control of the Committee accounts is still in the hands of the committee members. Some committee members may choose to implement or not to implement the proposal, and the community vote warehouse may also choose to vote for or not to vote for the committee members. If the proposal is approved and some committee members do not implement it, CN vote will reserve the right to cancel the voting of the committee members.


Please vote according to your opinion.


BAIP7 (https://github.com/bitshares/baips/blob/master/baip-0007.md)
     BAIP7是关于智能资产的锁仓奖励和对BTS定期销毁的提案。本议案的目的是合理运用理事会收入,给bitasset持有者较为稳定的收益,鼓励bitasset的使用,同时定期销毁bts,减少流通量。通过这两种手段稳步提升BTS价值。

现在有两个投票提案被创建:
1.14.262 Poll-BAIP7-Implement bitASSETS reward and BTS destruction ##赞同实施BAIP7
1.14.263 Poll-BAIP7-Do Not Implement bitASSETS reward and BTS destruction ## 反对实施BAIP7

根据BAIP流程,当以下三个条件满足时,BAIP7将被视为被社区批准实施:
1.提案 1.14.262 获得投票高于提案 1.14.263.
2.提案 1.14.262 获得投票高于提案 BAIP门槛提案 1.14.236.
3.以上两种状态持续三天以上。

特别说明:本质上此类投票只是社区表达意见的一种方式。理事会账户的真正控制权还在理事会成员手里,理事会成员有可能会选择执行或者不执行此提案,社区票仓也可以选择投票支持或不支持该理事会成员。若此提案通过,而有理事会成员不执行此提案的话,cn-vote将保留撤销此理事会成员投票的权利。



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Re: [Poll] BAIP7: Proposal on bitASSETS reward and BTS destruction
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2020, 11:57:16 am »
BAIP: 0007
Title: Proposal on bitASSETS reward and BTS destruction
Authors: cn-vote zhouxiaobao-2010
Status: Accepted
Type: Consensus
Created: 2020-06-01

Abstract
The purpose of this proposal is to establish a scientific financial model of BTS, make reasonable use of the commission income of the committee, open up resources and reduce expenditure, and promote the stable growth of BTS system value.

Specification

bitASSETS reward

Smart coins are the original assets of the system, and the corresponding holders should enjoy the dividend of system growth.

Reward amount: 20000 BTS per day(At the beginning of the activity, the existing funds in the Committee account will be used. When the existing funds are used up, the reward amount will be adjusted according to the same proportion of the income in the Committee account.)
Participating assets: bitCNY, bitUSD, bitEUR, bitRUBLE

1.Reward conditions:
1)The holding amount should exceed X. For example: those over 1000 yuan can participate in reward.
2)The holding amount needs to last for a period of time . For example, 7 days. Rewards can only be distributed if the holding amount meets 1000bitcny or above for 7 consecutive days.

2.Reward method:
1)Participating accounts should register at the beginning of each cycle.Account does not participate in reward if not registered. The registration method can be to transfer any small number of bitassets to the specified account.
2)The reward needs to be collected actively. If the reward is not collected within the time limit, this part of the reward will not be accumulated.The collection method can be to transfer any small number of bitasset to the specified account.
3)Set the upper limit of daily reward yield, such as 5 ‰. The purpose is to prevent the situation that the total amount of bitasset participating in the lock up award is too small and the yield is too high. Prevent waste of money.
4)The more available bitassets you hold, the more rewards you get. Calculated as a minimum of 7 days. For example, if the number of bitCNY held within 7 days is 2000 3000 3000 1000 5000 5000 2000, then 1000 is the effective number. Note that the available bitassets do not include bitassets such as participating in Pending purchase\ compulsory liquidation and transfer.
5)There is a reward for recommending new registered account to participate in lock in the reward plan. If the number of locked in bitassets in the account reaches a certain amount (e.g. 100000 bitcny, other bitassets are calculated based on the exchange rate year-on-year), it can be applied as a promotion account. If the new account recommended for registration by the account participates in the locked in of smart assets, the account can obtain corresponding rewards.

Regular destruction

The dividend shall be destroyed at the same time as it is distributed in each reward cycle.
Destruction per week = coefficient Z * (reward per week)

Parameter adjustment description

For all parameters, the modification cycle is 2 weeks. Each modification can be adjusted for a function or a single parameter. Modification conditions (one of two options):

1.Adopted by more than half of the members of the Committee.
2.Send a simple baip, describe the parameters you want to modify, according to the passing standard of baip.

Continuous operation

This proposal does not conflict with baip6(MM competition).
      If baip6 passes, it will be carried out at the same time. After the consumption of the Council's stock funds, 30% of the Council's monthly income is used for destruction, 30% is used for warehouse locking and reward distribution, 30% is used for mining with hanging orders, and 10% is used for Council reservation. The parameters are adjusted in the same proportion.
     If baip6 fails, the proposal will be implemented separately. After the consumption of the Council's stock funds, 30% of the Council's monthly income is used for destruction, 60% is used for lock in rewards, and 10% is used for the Council's reservation. The parameters are adjusted in the same proportion.

Organizer
The organizer is appointed by the Committee. In the early stage, a certain amount of funds will be spent by the Committee account for program development, and 1% of the daily reward will be used as the organizer's salary after operation.

Discussion
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=32398.0

Copyright
This document is placed in the public domain.
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本提案目的是初步推进建立BTS科学的金融模式,合理运用理事会手续费收入,开源节流,促进BTS系统价值稳定增长。

一、智能资产奖励计划

每天对参与该计划的智能资产发放奖励。

奖励数量:每日2万个BTS。(初期将使用理事会现有资金,当现有资金使用完毕后,将根据理事会收入按比例调整奖励数额)
参与资产:bitCNY,bitUSD,bitEUR,bitRUBLE

奖励条件:
1)持有量需超过X,如超过1000bitCNY,就可以参与奖励计划。
2)持有量需持续发生T,如7天,连续7天均满足1000bitCNY以上才有奖励。

奖励方式:
1)参与奖励的账户每周期开始时要报名登记,如未报名登记则不参与奖励。报名方式可以是,向指定账号转任意小数量的bitasset。
2)奖励需要主动领取,如超时未领取,则这这部分奖励不累积。领取方式可以是,向指定账号转任意小数量的bitasset。
3)设定日收益率上限,如:5‰,该设定的作用是,若参与奖励计划的资产过少,则奖励不会达到每天2万BTS,防止资金浪费。
4)持有可用智能资产越多,获得奖励越多。比如以7天持有量来举例,如某账户7天里每天持有的bitCNY数量为2000,3000,3000,1000,5000,5000,5000,则取1000为有效数量,即取最小值。注意,可用的智能资产不包括参加挂单,强清,转账等智能资产。
5)推荐新注册的用户参与锁仓奖励计划有奖励。账户中锁仓智能资产达到一定数量(如10万bitcny,其他智能资产按照汇率同比计算)则可以申请为推广账号,如果该账号推荐注册的新账号参与智能资产锁仓,则该账号可以获得相应的附加奖励。

二、定期销毁

每个奖励周期奖励奖励的同时进行销毁。
每个周期销毁量=系数z *(每周期奖励量)

三、参数调节说明

对于所有参数,以2周为一次修改周期。每次修改可针对某个功能或某单个参数进行调整。
修改条件(二选一):
1)指标成员半数以上通过
2)发简易的baip,描述希望修改的参数,按照baip的通过标准。

四、持续运营

本提案与baip6(挂单挖矿)不冲突。
     若baip6通过,则同时进行。待理事会账号资金消耗完毕后,每月理事会账号收益30%用于销毁,30%用作锁仓奖励,30%用于挂单挖矿,10%用于理事会备用资金。参数同比例调整。
     若baip6不通过,则单独执行本提案。待理事会存量资金消耗完毕后,每月理事会账号收入的30%用于销毁,60%用于锁仓奖励,10%用于备用。参数同比例调整。

五、组织者

组织者由理事会指定。前期由理事会帐户支出一定的资金用于程序开发,运行后每日奖励额的1%作为组织者工资。

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Re: [Poll] BAIP7: Proposal on bitASSETS reward and BTS destruction
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2020, 12:03:15 pm »
BAIP has no right to claim any existing funds expecially not from committee account.
You want to access funds you need to get the worker approved as a normal worker.
CN-Vote already destroyed any existing trust to committee which is being named now corrupt,scammers and other names.
If committee approves funds based on a non accurate BAIP worker which is trying to get access to funds they will be clearly seen as scammers and nothing else.
Committee funds should be based on consensus already long time be burned into reserve pool.
Bitcraibs and CN-Votes poor manipulation try to get access to these funds not executing community consensus will only destroy any kind of trust left on bitassets.
They call it already scam assets.
So instead of creating workers to bypass rules i recommend to first build up trust again into bitassets because cnvote and the trio did already enough damage to bitassets which resulted into a big decline.
I really am questioning if cn-vote is even able to get bitshares out of the crisis because all i see from cn-vote and the trio which is massivly influencing cn-votes community is playing with paramerters and no real progress at all.
You already made majority of traders leave because of your ignorance which you can see on the daily volume on dex.
You wanna spent 600k BTS /month minimum for what ?
Will it change any major issue bitshares is facing or any major problem why people left bitshares ?
I don't think so.All it does is reducing financing possibilities of real progress and giving free BTS to some big existing holders.

You want to succeed ?Maybe start first fixing your voting mistakes you did based on politics and inside deals instead for the good of bitshares and after that focus on PROGRESS and not on kicking on an outdated DEX which is losing competition against any other DEX because of your blocking of any real progress.

BAIP voting is defined by the voted in worker by consensus which made it very clear what a BAIP is and it's clearly not to get access to existing funds.

But you are free to explain to me how the 5 months wasted time and funds for core prelude worker are going to get us old or new members to bitshares.
Taxiation of gateways having now 100k BTS per day is getting us them to bitshares?
That's the effectivness which CN-Vote demanded ?


Maybe you can tell us where did us CN-Votes manipulation,inside deals,political,ignorace,lack of ethics etc brought ?
Because all i see is a heavy decline of bitshares in CMC rank and amount of members.
A reputation of scam project and dead bitassest
A totaly non trusted and inactive committee
No trading on DEX anymore
Destroyment of bitshares infra......

So tell me plese where did cn-vote improved anything on bitshares other than a few peoples income ?

Bitshares is now outdated to other exchanges because of its stagnation and even worse decline and you want fix it by endless playing and manipulating of parameters .
That is not going to bring bitshares any growth.


You think big amount of people calling bitshares a scam,bitassets a scam,committee corrupted,governance fucked etc because of CN-Votes ignorance and manipulation will bring any new users to bitshares ?
I doubt so.
You try to get people hold bitassets because they left ?
Maybe ask the question why they left bitassets and if you shouldn't fix first the reason why an existing community for bitassets left ?

Instead you play your endless parameters game which will benefit only a few people.

Tell me what is the result of the MM contest ?Have a look you don't pay people to trade on DEX they leave ?
Why ?


Based on volume numbers it is safe to claim that even chinese stopped trading on DEX.
Did you asked them why ?


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Special note: in essence, such voting is only a way for the community to express their opinions. The real control of the Committee accounts is still in the hands of the committee members. Some committee members may choose to implement or not to implement the proposal, and the community vote warehouse may also choose to vote for or not to vote for the committee members. If the proposal is approved and some committee members do not implement it,

How come you didn't do it when committee members didn't executed destruction proposal which was/is voted in ? Politics again ?
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 01:28:57 pm by Thul3 »

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Re: [Poll] BAIP7: Proposal on bitASSETS reward and BTS destruction
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2020, 01:41:44 pm »
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Status: Accepted

BS. Zero effort to involve community, fake rubber stamp much?

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Smart coins are the original assets of the system, and the corresponding holders should enjoy the dividend of system growth.

They were, now they're confirmed SCAM coins. There's also no such system growth to justify such a dividend, rather there has been a severe economic contraction due to recent failures by cn-vote and friends.

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The purpose of this proposal is to establish a scientific financial model of BTS, make reasonable use of the commission income of the committee, open up resources and reduce expenditure, and promote the stable growth of BTS system value.

This is not a "scientific financial model" but rather simply bribery of scam token holders.

This further does nothing to 'reduce expenditure' nor 'promote stable growth', if anything this BTS will be dumped further degrading the value of BTS. Major fail.

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Participating assets: bitCNY, bitUSD, bitEUR, bitRUBLE

Why include USD & CNY? They're confirmed scam coins.

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1)Participating accounts should register at the beginning of each cycle.Account does not participate in reward if not registered. The registration method can be to transfer any small number of bitassets to the specified account.

Why not just include all asset holders over the minimum value rather than require bribing a centralized account for payout? Sounds like targeting a subset of asset holders to corrupt distribution.

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2)The reward needs to be collected actively. If the reward is not collected within the time limit, this part of the reward will not be accumulated.The collection method can be to transfer any small number of bitasset to the specified account.

This is not functionality that exists in BTS, just send the assets to the asset holder rather than invent absurd rules like this. You do know it's possible to programmatically send funds without degrading the platform as you propose?

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3)Set the upper limit of daily reward yield, such as 5 ‰. The purpose is to prevent the situation that the total amount of bitasset participating in the lock up award is too small and the yield is too high. Prevent waste of money.
Users will split their assets over multiple accounts to evade this, this rule is dead on arrival.

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5)There is a reward for recommending new registered account to participate in lock in the reward plan. If the number of locked in bitassets in the account reaches a certain amount (e.g. 100000 bitcny, other bitassets are calculated based on the exchange rate year-on-year), it can be applied as a promotion account. If the new account recommended for registration by the account participates in the locked in of smart assets, the account can obtain corresponding rewards.

What is the reward per account? Who do users register with? A centralized entity or the network? This just seems like an open door to further cheat the system, real amateur stuff.

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The dividend shall be destroyed at the same time as it is distributed in each reward cycle.
Why? Is this returning the tokens to the reserves from the committee account or sending the tokens to the null-account? These assets are already doing nothing in the committee account, so their destruction will yield zero benefit to the value of BTS, serious failure in understanding crypto economics here guys.

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      If baip6 passes, it will be carried out at the same time. After the consumption of the Council's stock funds, 30% of the Council's monthly income is used for destruction, 30% is used for warehouse locking and reward distribution, 30% is used for mining with hanging orders, and 10% is used for Council reservation. The parameters are adjusted in the same proportion.
     If baip6 fails, the proposal will be implemented separately. After the consumption of the Council's stock funds, 30% of the Council's monthly income is used for destruction, 60% is used for lock in rewards, and 10% is used for the Council's reservation. The parameters are adjusted in the same proportion.
Who is the council? The committee? Use the correct terminology.

What is warehouse locking? Do you mean destroying BTS? Make up your mind with regards to what terminology you're using.

What on earth are 'hanging orders' and at whose discretion will this fund be used to manipulate the market?

You mention mining, but THERE'S NO MINING IN BITSHARES, what is this for? I can't believe how out of touch cn-vote is with regards to this platform, it's unreal.

Why does this council require 10% reserve funds? Personal corrupt funds?
« Last Edit: June 11, 2020, 01:44:32 pm by R »

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Re: [Poll] BAIP7: Proposal on bitASSETS reward and BTS destruction
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2020, 08:52:39 am »
BSIP/BAIP-threshold从来没有得到bts持有人投票同意通过过,有人投票给BSIP/BAIP-threshold难道就意味着这个BSIP/BAIP-threshold生效了?!

没有经过任何投票程序就生效的BSIP/BAIP-threshold岂不是践踏了整个BTS投票基础,社区投票共识难道变的跟厕纸一样,想用就用,想扔就扔?!

社区资金有资金的正当流向渠道,所有worker都应当按照投票程序从资金池中领取资金,以方便社区监督与控制,现在BSIP/BAIP跟开了后门一样,都想从理事会账户捞钱,那还要什么社区投票共识,还要什么worker赏金投票制度?

你们把资金池的资金节流了,然后从另一个口子更加方便的开始淌,利益相关手中都能过把油,这是为了社区考虑?

理事会账户的资金与收入也是社区资金,既然是社区资金就应当划归到资金池中统一分配,而不是几个未经社区投票同意的BSIP/BAIP-threshold就可以开始大手大脚的去花钱。



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特别说明:本质上此类投票只是社区表达意见的一种方式。理事会账户的真正控制权还在理事会成员手里,理事会成员有可能会选择执行或者不执行此提案,社区票仓也可以选择投票支持或不支持该理事会成员。若此提案通过,而有理事会成员不执行此提案的话,cn-vote将保留撤销此理事会成员投票的权利。

这个东西,你们能威胁到谁?最多就威胁一下前三,我看你们没胆子给前三撤票,难道你们胆子肥了还敢去威胁BEOS?

俗话说得好,三个臭皮匠顶个诸葛亮,你们也算不少人,难道就没有人考虑过:公平、公正?
« Last Edit: June 13, 2020, 09:02:21 am by binggo »