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Offline Denisnew05

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This BSIP suggests modifying the protocol to permit non-LTM accounts to refer new accounts. A non-LTM referrer's referral earnings will be divided between her, her registrar, https://tractorsinfo.com/feed-kroger-login/  and her referrer. In my opinion, it would appear better if we did not limit the amount that a non-LTM account can earn through the referral programme or the time frame in which she must upgrade.

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EOS had adoption by 5$ account creation and no fees at all for basic transfers/voting. Suggest we make a similar approach, ofc not that cheap since we are offering much more in terms of serious dapps and functionality.

Review my comment please.

https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/186#issuecomment-522289199

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In year 2016, when BM developed "free transactions" feature for Steem, I independently wrote something similar for BitShares. It hasn't been merged because BM moved on to Steem, and I left too due to the voting mess about BSIP-10.

https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/pull/612
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/issues/603
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Rather than entirely removing the LTM requirement, what about a minimum BTS balance requirement for referral mechanism access?
It still means you need to invest some money before you're possible to earn money. Small marketers won't touch it.
At least 1 BTS would mean they've at least used the platform before they're decided to promote it. Might deter bot sign ups?
Makes some sense, but I think it's not necessary. They'll pay fees anyway when trying to withdraw their referral income. How they will promote BitShares is up to them. Also a fee for referrer doesn't solve bot-sign-up issue.
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Rather than entirely removing the LTM requirement, what about a minimum BTS balance requirement for referral mechanism access?
It still means you need to invest some money before you're possible to earn money. Small marketers won't touch it.
At least 1 BTS would mean they've at least used the platform before they're decided to promote it. Might deter bot sign ups?

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EOS had adoption by 5$ account creation and no fees at all for basic transfers/voting. Suggest we make a similar approach, ofc not that cheap since we are offering much more in terms of serious dapps and functionality.

Review my comment please.

https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/186#issuecomment-522289199

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Rather than entirely removing the LTM requirement, what about a minimum BTS balance requirement for referral mechanism access?
It still means you need to invest some money before you're possible to earn money. Small marketers won't touch it.
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Rather than entirely removing the LTM requirement, what about a minimum BTS balance requirement for referral mechanism access?

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Support: The non-LTM referral link should provide a 20% cash back function. The other 60% goes to the next LTM.
By upgrading to a LTM you can get the full 80% from your referrals.

https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/186
« Last Edit: August 11, 2019, 10:54:43 am by bench »
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The referer parser enrichment uses the Snowplow referer-parser to extract attribution data from referer URLs. You can provide a list of internal subdomains which will be treated as "internal" rather than unknown.
Thanks. Please add more info here: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/3010
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How about we add somewhere on the website a text a la:

"Want to refer users to BitShares on a commercial basis? Contact marketing@bitshares.org and we will help you set up with what you need!"

I have no problem buying interested webmasters an LTM (after evaluating their inquiry), either through marketing worker or reference faucet worker.

Although it's a generous sentiment I think that kind of "process" would become a bottleneck in any kind of growth path...By definition when something becomes popular through organic growth...e.g.  "going viral"...it does so BECAUSE there are no gatekeepers.

Moreover it assumes that you will always make the right decision when it comes to "evaluation of their inquiry".  The person or entity you choose ...might be a diamond or may be a dud...That it will get expensive...

We have to keep in mind that BTS and crypto in general is global...therefore multicultural...which means there can be cross-cultural misunderstandings or persepctives, etc and something that is perceived to be a negative character trait on one side may just be considered entrepreneurial zeal on the other..


EXAMPLE:  A young person (not a lot of accumulated assets) who does not have much formal education (by Western standards) but is quite energetic, has good business intuiton and a reputation in his community of being able to get things done through a growing netwok of contacts... and people pay him well..just to help them get through govt.bureaucracy and roadblocks, etc.
{In the US it is formally called being a "consultant"}   ;)

He earned his rep. and popularity because he also happens to be a former high school star and a current huge fan of the sport of CRICKET..... which is VERY popular..mainly in former Commonwealth countries.....So long story short.... he comes across BTS as a result of his curiousity about Bitcoin and then has an idea that would involve BitShares and being able to combine his business with his love of cricket and its worldwide fan base into a global income generating venture...

Do you (or the appraiser) know anything about the history, business, and current state of affairs when it comes to the sport of CRICKET?

Second problem..  his English language skills are limited.. so he will need to pay for an interpreter to explain his ideas to you...

So as you can see...many many different situations can arise to complicate things...change gender, substitute different sport...ping pong, road cycling, archery, rugby, skateboarding, etc..different countries, legal issues..and so on...

"Evaluating an inquiry"  may not be so simple and rejections will always leave a lingering negative reaction..  Better to allow the industrious, creative and  hardworking types earn their LTM for themselves..

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$100 isn't a lot to ask for LTM. If they can't do that, I doubt they have a legit stream of users to refer.

Keep in mind  $100 is not a lot for YOU....but Bitshares is global...and for many people in countries outside of the US and Europe, Japan, Australia etc.  it is considered a tidy sum relatively speaking...not to mention that you're asking a prospective Member to use that money on a BTS "venture" ...although I'm sure there will be other  competing (and maybe compelling) uses of the money..{living costs, medical biils, education fees, petrol, taxes, etc..etc)  Like any other business this undertaking is a risk that they hope, with sweat equity, will turn out to be income producing..

One may have a "following" because one is rich  (fair weather friends)...but one does not NEED to be rich to have a following...  e,g, most milloinaire athletes come from very modest beginnings and they had "followers" long before they were millionaires on paper..

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Am supporting it.Thats something i asked from the beginning.

Multi level provisionon refferes is already industry standard so there should be no legal problems.
Agree

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