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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2014, 01:41:35 am »
It demonstrates confidence that I'm selling some?

Frankly I think the current prices are inflated, you cannot deposit BTSx at BTer so the market there is a very shallow pool.  The prices looked quite encouraging, and honestly the software does look very good.

Remember, i'm one of the longest-running supporter of the whole project :)  I took issue with decisions made along the way so far and the areas that were prioritized because it was more risky than the original plan.  I'm quite happy with the system so far.
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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2014, 01:44:12 am »
I also think I can buy cheaper in the coming weeks.

 My posts are also more a vote of confidence for the product!

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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2014, 01:46:51 am »
I also think I can buy cheaper in the coming weeks.

 My posts are also more a vote of confidence for the product!

I sent you and clout a PM... no reply.

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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2014, 01:49:52 am »
It demonstrates confidence that I'm selling some?

Frankly I think the current prices are inflated, you cannot deposit BTSx at BTer so the market there is a very shallow pool.  The prices looked quite encouraging, and honestly the software does look very good.

Remember, i'm one of the longest-running supporter of the whole project :)  I took issue with decisions made along the way so far and the areas that were prioritized because it was more risky than the original plan.  I'm quite happy with the system so far.

Its trading at a market cap under $30 million. How is that inflated?

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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2014, 01:59:22 am »
Its inflated because there are a huge number of people who felt trapped in Bitshares for much longer than they wanted to be, so i'm expecting as soon as you can easily move funds onto a market we'll see a lot of people cash out 10%-20% to BTC, which will depress the price quite a bit since Invictus hasn't done anything to market it, yet there's all this demand to get out.
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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2014, 02:04:58 am »
Its inflated because there are a huge number of people who felt trapped in Bitshares for much longer than they wanted to be, so i'm expecting as soon as you can easily move funds onto a market we'll see a lot of people cash out 10%-20% to BTC, which will depress the price quite a bit since Invictus hasn't done anything to market it, yet there's all this demand to get out.

Yes, but also as soon as the funds can be moved, it will also be a proof this is working well, plus trading BitAssets will come online.

I actually believe this is a low price. I just invested too much in AGS, and now want to invest some in other things like StorJ.

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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2014, 02:16:41 am »
Its inflated because there are a huge number of people who felt trapped in Bitshares for much longer than they wanted to be, so i'm expecting as soon as you can easily move funds onto a market we'll see a lot of people cash out 10%-20% to BTC, which will depress the price quite a bit since Invictus hasn't done anything to market it, yet there's all this demand to get out.

Its trading 40% under its competitor nxt. Bitshares is better than nxt in every respect. I don't think you really understand how markets work.


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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2014, 02:18:23 am »
Clout, we don't have to agree - Would you like to trade?  250k BTSx for 5.625BTC?
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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2014, 02:27:51 am »
Clout, we don't have to agree - Would you like to trade?  250k BTSx for 5.625BTC?

Yes, I am purchasing on behalf of someone else. I will have the BTC tomorrow.

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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2014, 02:29:39 am »
Clout, we don't have to agree - Would you like to trade?  250k BTSx for 5.625BTC?

Yes, I am purchasing on behalf of someone else. I will have the BTC tomorrow.

Hmm, okay.  Its a little odd that you make an offer for a trade then need to wait a day.  Why didn't you just wait til you had the BTC for the trade?
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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2014, 02:46:46 am »
Clout, we don't have to agree - Would you like to trade?  250k BTSx for 5.625BTC?

Yes, I am purchasing on behalf of someone else. I will have the BTC tomorrow.

Hmm, okay.  Its a little odd that you make an offer for a trade then need to wait a day.  Why didn't you just wait til you had the BTC for the trade?

if you say so. thats my offer. i should have the btc by tomorrow.

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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2014, 03:42:16 am »
Finished transacting with clout - superb response.

With Simeon II, we ran into a glitch. I had 3 pending transactions, which are now gone. However he says he received them. The UI balance for me shows as if they have gone through. However in the history I see a different final balance. Oh my... which one do we believe?

UPDATE: I've restarted / cleaned pending transactions / rescanned / etc.

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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2014, 04:05:50 am »
It seems it has cleared on my side after many restarts/clear history pending transactions / rescan. But this should be made easier for non-technical people. Perhaps a preventative care automatic rescan should happen every hour or so.

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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2014, 05:02:29 am »
It seems it has cleared on my side after many restarts/clear history pending transactions / rescan. But this should be made easier for non-technical people. Perhaps a preventative care automatic rescan should happen every hour or so.

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Re: Escrow for BTS X Buyers/Sellers
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2014, 05:14:06 am »
Well actually it's not cleared - in console history it shows one total balance, but when trying to send it - it's completely different.

I started a separate thread though. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5799

That said, after the many hurdles, me and Simeon II finished our transactions. At first he thought I was slow, but it turned out it was those weird 30K missing transactions that took awhile to get to him, and never officially left my account (but they are gone for good from my account, since I can't really use them, I just don't see record of it in my console output)