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Marky0001

@fuzzy: what do you mean by "the other chains"?

I wouldn't look at the NOTE/BTS price too much. BTS is dumping and most likely we will dump under 2k soon. The ONLY reasonable price chart is NOTE/USD.

fuzzy

Quote from: liondani on April 03, 2015, 12:36:26 PM
Quote from: fuzzy on April 03, 2015, 12:22:12 PM
Personally, I say let the maximalists make their decisions to dump the other chains. Others will get a chance to buy in cheap...of course that depends on if they agree with the MUSIC model.

which is?

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What is the price of Bitshares Notes as of right now?
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Quote from: fuzzy on April 03, 2015, 12:22:12 PM
Personally, I say let the maximalists make their decisions to dump the other chains. Others will get a chance to buy in cheap...of course that depends on if they agree with the MUSIC model.

which is? 
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fuzzy

Quote from: Ander on March 31, 2015, 11:14:23 PM
NOTES release: yet another way for PTS bears to get some more BTS that they will be able to dump.

Also: NOTES.  Yet another thing the Bitshares community blew all their money on that wasn't Bitshares, resulting in the price of Bitshares going into a neverending bear trend.  Also see: PLAY.

Personally, I say let the maximalists make their decisions to dump the other chains. Others will get a chance to buy in cheap...of course that depends on if they agree with the MUSIC model.
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Quote from: graffenwalder on April 01, 2015, 08:42:39 AM
Business strategie: secret sauce, we will reveil when we can. Sound familiar?

Same sh*t, different DAC.

and what is your contribution to any DAC?.. Sounds like same shit from an impatient whiner wanting money for nothing. Give the devs a chance to come good on a great idea.
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graffenwalder

Quote from: yellowecho on April 01, 2015, 06:35:26 AM
Quote from: Ander on March 31, 2015, 11:14:23 PM
NOTES release: yet another way for PTS bears to get some more BTS that they will be able to dump.

Also: NOTES.  Yet another thing the Bitshares community blew all their money on that wasn't Bitshares, resulting in the price of Bitshares going into a neverending bear trend.  Also see: PLAY.

lol PeerTracks has laughably more going for it than PLAY.  I'm trading NOTES because I believe it has potential to solve a lot of problems within the music industry while challenging the Spotify model IF done properly.   << So let's examine this theory briefly.  Currently Spotify has an estimated market cap of ~$4Billion.. while I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong here) NOTES have ~3.5 million based on recent trading.  That means Spotify is valued at 1,143X the value of the service NOTES and PeerTrack can offer.  My trading is calling shenanigans on that valuation.  The trade can be seen as shorting Spotify or shorting BTS but regardless there're odds I'm willing to take based purely on confidence of the Peertracks team and the underlying technology offered by BitShares,

The things we know about Peertracks:
Logo:
Slogan: Make a LIVIN' LOVIN' Music.
Big Launch: SXSW and Texas BTC conference, however not a single article in the media can be found.
Business strategie: secret sauce, we will reveil when we can. Sound familiar?

Same sh*t, different DAC.

yellowecho

#36
Quote from: Ander on March 31, 2015, 11:14:23 PM
NOTES release: yet another way for PTS bears to get some more BTS that they will be able to dump.

Also: NOTES.  Yet another thing the Bitshares community blew all their money on that wasn't Bitshares, resulting in the price of Bitshares going into a neverending bear trend.  Also see: PLAY.

lol PeerTracks has laughably more going for it than PLAY.  I'm trading NOTES because I believe it has potential to solve a lot of problems within the music industry while challenging the Spotify model IF done properly.   << So let's examine this theory briefly.  Currently Spotify has an estimated market cap of ~$4Billion.. while I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong here) NOTES have ~3.5 million based on recent trading.  That means Spotify is valued at 1,143X the value of the service NOTES and PeerTrack can offer.  My trading is calling shenanigans on that valuation.  The trade can be seen as shorting Spotify or shorting BTS but regardless there're odds I'm willing to take based purely on confidence of the Peertracks team and the underlying technology offered by BitShares,
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testz

#35
Quote from: Ander on March 31, 2015, 11:14:23 PM
NOTES release: yet another way for PTS bears to get some more BTS that they will be able to dump.

Also: NOTES.  Yet another thing the Bitshares community blew all their money on that wasn't Bitshares, resulting in the price of Bitshares going into a neverending bear trend.  Also see: PLAY.

Where we can sell PLAY for BTS to dump it?  :)

Edit: Personally I suggest to buy BTS now, because price is low.

Ander

NOTES release: yet another way for PTS bears to get some more BTS that they will be able to dump.

Also: NOTES.  Yet another thing the Bitshares community blew all their money on that wasn't Bitshares, resulting in the price of Bitshares going into a neverending bear trend.  Also see: PLAY.
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davidpbrown

How many NOTES are there total? Web wallet detail suggests:
"MAXIMUM SHARE SUPPLY 50,000,000,000.00 NOTE"
"PRECISION 10000"
"CURRENT SHARE SUPPLY 1,274,224,569.8041 NOTE"

Where I was expecting to see a simple 1,500,000,000. What is the difference in the current; and how is the maximum so high?
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fuzzy

Quote from: ag on March 29, 2015, 03:15:12 PM
Quote from: Akado on March 28, 2015, 02:05:59 PM
my prediction



I for one am happy for the success of the note distribution on the BTS blockchain, and to finally have a UIA market trading and running smoothly.

Bitsapphire is doing some pretty good stuff it seems in helping the first BitShares startups...
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Quote from: Akado on March 28, 2015, 02:05:59 PM
my prediction



I for one am happy for the success of the note distribution on the BTS blockchain, and to finally have a UIA market trading and running smoothly.

bitmeat

Quote from: MrJeans on March 28, 2015, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: Tuck Fheman on March 28, 2015, 02:46:15 AM
Quote from: mf-tzo on March 27, 2015, 07:01:10 PM
I would be in an amazingly better position if I had saved my funds back then and was able to buy BTS and NOTES at current levels.

:-\
True. However I am comforted by the fact that I couldnt see into the future then, and I cant now.
Just gotta ride this baby until the wheels come of. Or we can start affording expensive cars.

I think that's how ostriches play the market. :) They put the money in, and then put the head in the sand until they retire. :)

MrJeans

Quote from: Tuck Fheman on March 28, 2015, 02:46:15 AM
Quote from: mf-tzo on March 27, 2015, 07:01:10 PM
I would be in an amazingly better position if I had saved my funds back then and was able to buy BTS and NOTES at current levels.

:-\
True. However I am comforted by the fact that I couldnt see into the future then, and I cant now.
Just gotta ride this baby until the wheels come of. Or we can start affording expensive cars.

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Tuck Fheman

Quote from: mf-tzo on March 27, 2015, 07:01:10 PM
I would be in an amazingly better position if I had saved my funds back then and was able to buy BTS and NOTES at current levels.

:-\

joele

Quote from: Troglodactyl on March 27, 2015, 11:44:55 PM
Quote from: nicejeans on March 27, 2015, 08:10:54 PM
Well, I'm glad to have received most my notes. I'm hoping to get a few from BTER, but we'll see. 8)

Now, if only the .8,.8.1 clients were more stable. It's crashing for me more than bitshares ever has. :-\

But that's what you get. Rome wasn't built in a day, not even a Mcdonald's hamburger is.

What OS are you on, and how/when is it crashing?

It's crashing if you have low memory.

nicejeans

I'm on win 8. It's been crashing when I go into the exchange and try to view charts and place orders. Either it crashes or the charts take extremely long time to load.

When I upgraded to .8 I somehow ended up on the forked chain. I've resynced my blockchain and now the client works and can stay synced as long as I don't try to do anything.
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Troglodactyl

Quote from: nicejeans on March 27, 2015, 08:10:54 PM
Well, I'm glad to have received most my notes. I'm hoping to get a few from BTER, but we'll see. 8)

Now, if only the .8,.8.1 clients were more stable. It's crashing for me more than bitshares ever has. :-\

But that's what you get. Rome wasn't built in a day, not even a Mcdonald's hamburger is.

What OS are you on, and how/when is it crashing?

nicejeans

Well, I'm glad to have received most my notes. I'm hoping to get a few from BTER, but we'll see. 8)

Now, if only the .8,.8.1 clients were more stable. It's crashing for me more than bitshares ever has. :-\

But that's what you get. Rome wasn't built in a day, not even a Mcdonald's hamburger is.





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mf-tzo

Quote from: bitmeat on March 27, 2015, 06:44:30 PM
Or its the awesome "community support" of AGS/PTS holders who are dumping since they effectively got it for free. (Kind of)

These statements are completely false!! I was a PTS shareholder from day 1 and much later AGS shareholder and I am now at serious losses...Back then BTC was at $600 - $800 range. Back then BTS had an implied valuation of $40 mil...I would be in an amazingly better position if I had saved my funds back then and was able to buy BTS and NOTES at current levels. So basically new comers are getting BTS and NOTES now effectively for free..I doubt that many from PTS/AGS shareholders are dumping now unless they are desperate for cash..
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Or its the awesome "community support" of AGS/PTS holders who are dumping since they effectively got it for free. (Kind of)

MrJeans

I did some SWAGs (which would not be too accurate because the BTC price constantly changes). But working back from market cap during the donation funds and working back from what I thought was a representative donation day.

It looks like notes were more expensive during donations than they are now. They should be cheaper during donations because of the risk premium of no liquidity.

To me this looks like people are selling because of the bear market and trying to unload their positions. I am bearing for the short term.

sschechter

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I did not see any NOTES until I restarted the application.  My wallet must have been in a bad state after re-installing and synching with the latest.  My transactions were missing too, but they're also back after restarting.
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Quote from: clayop on March 26, 2015, 08:59:50 PM
I think we need Bitshares URL to a specific market, say NOTE:BTS

e.g. bts:market/note/bts

i like that!
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Quote from: mf-tzo on March 26, 2015, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on March 26, 2015, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: bitcoin777 on March 26, 2015, 09:02:47 PM
Also does anyone see a note balance in their account already? I imported keys to client but no balance.
check the corresponding address with agsexplorer.com ..
I do see my NOTES and already put them into coldstorage :)

Can you please advise how you do cold storage, if it is safe for non tech guys and where can I found instructions?
Check the coldstorage article in wiki.bitshares.org

JA

Quote from: bitcoin777 on March 26, 2015, 09:22:41 PM
Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on March 26, 2015, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: bitcoin777 on March 26, 2015, 09:02:47 PM
Also does anyone see a note balance in their account already? I imported keys to client but no balance.
check the corresponding address with agsexplorer.com ..
I do see my NOTES and already put them into coldstorage :)

I checked one of my public keys from BTC wallet and that shows NOTES. However I imported the wallet.dat (it said successfully) into Bitshares Wallet and see nothing?
me too.
i only got my stake from priv keys that are already in the bitshares wallet.

bitcoin777

Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on March 26, 2015, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: bitcoin777 on March 26, 2015, 09:02:47 PM
Also does anyone see a note balance in their account already? I imported keys to client but no balance.
check the corresponding address with agsexplorer.com ..
I do see my NOTES and already put them into coldstorage :)

I checked one of my public keys from BTC wallet and that shows NOTES. However I imported the wallet.dat (it said successfully) into Bitshares Wallet and see nothing?

mf-tzo

Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on March 26, 2015, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: bitcoin777 on March 26, 2015, 09:02:47 PM
Also does anyone see a note balance in their account already? I imported keys to client but no balance.
check the corresponding address with agsexplorer.com ..
I do see my NOTES and already put them into coldstorage :)

Can you please advise how you do cold storage, if it is safe for non tech guys and where can I found instructions?
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xeroc

Quote from: bitcoin777 on March 26, 2015, 09:02:47 PM
Also does anyone see a note balance in their account already? I imported keys to client but no balance.
check the corresponding address with agsexplorer.com ..
I do see my NOTES and already put them into coldstorage :)

bitcoin777

Also does anyone see a note balance in their account already? I imported keys to client but no balance.

clayop

I think we need Bitshares URL to a specific market, say NOTE:BTS

e.g. bts:market/note/bts
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#10
I imported keys to bitshares wallet, looked on UIA and don't see Notes snapshot market?

*Edit to add I restarted the wallet and now I only see one UIA when there was lots before? What the?

infovortice2013

ok thanks now it show NOTE and upright trade note for the chart and books  ;D

must move to funder wallet to see sharedrop

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Quote from: infovortice2013 on March 26, 2015, 04:29:59 PM
i cant find in bitshares exchange, only see bitNotes and not show chart or nothing.

how total notes are?

not going to be day 28 release of notes?

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Quote from: infovortice2013 on March 26, 2015, 04:29:59 PM
i cant find in bitshares exchange, only see bitNotes and not show chart or nothing.

how total notes are?

not going to be day 28 release of notes?

Search lower in the UIA search bar instead of the market search bar.  Then, once you've clicked into it, you'll be able to click "enter BTS/NOTE" market.
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Quote from: infovortice2013 on March 26, 2015, 04:29:59 PM
i cant find in bitshares exchange, only see bitNotes and not show chart or nothing.

how total notes are?

not going to be day 28 release of notes?

Look to the NOTE:BTS in BitShares client market.
All other info you can see here: https://bitsharesblocks.com/asset/info?asset=NOTE

mdj

Quote from: infovortice2013 on March 26, 2015, 04:29:59 PM
i cant find in bitshares exchange, only see bitNotes and not show chart or nothing.

how total notes are?

not going to be day 28 release of notes?

search for Note:BTS

infovortice2013

i cant find in bitshares exchange, only see bitNotes and not show chart or nothing.

how total notes are?

not going to be day 28 release of notes?
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testz


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Hey where are you seeing notes being traded? Internal or 3rd party exchange?
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biophil

Has anybody done any ROI calculations for NOTEs from the pre-sale? I can't recall my ballpark figures exactly, but it seems like the pre-sale was implying a market cap around $2MM, which isn't far from where NOTEs are trading now. Anybody care to give actual numbers?
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