In preparations for the "big" announcement

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xeroc

Quote from: helloworld on May 19, 2015, 03:24:01 AM
Quote from: helloworld on May 19, 2015, 03:15:26 AM
Quote from: onceuponatime on May 19, 2015, 03:04:20 AM
Quote from: helloworld on May 19, 2015, 02:55:59 AM
Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on May 18, 2015, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: helloworld on May 18, 2015, 09:44:24 AM
+5% , We have no power at all
I have power .. just because I have >0 BTS shares in BTS ..
It's like democracy .. even if you feel your vote doesn't count, the opinion of the mass does count!

Democracy should be one person have one vote right, not decide by person Who have more land , more money, more wealth.
BTS just like Joint-stock company, It will to do something decide by big stakeholders even if it is no correct.
BM just like Jobs in Apple Inc. ,Board of Directors is weak just like stakeholders is weak in BTS.
But BM is not Jobs, and BTS is not Apple Inc.

I know BM work hard , and payed a lot. I'm very admire him.
But a DAC should be more democracy.

If you want more vote, buy more BitShares. They are really cheap right now!

Have no power to decide something?
OK, Your should to buy more bitshares, you have no power because your bitshares not enough.   :P

But how many could make a change?
Even if buy more BTS, it could change anything?

I'm not good at write by English , I just deliver my opinion.
If my words sound terrible , I'm sorry.

I do understand your concern .. but no company is democratic .. never was, and never will be.
Democracy, as defined, concerns all people of a country with the only option to opt-out by leaving the country.
Hence, everyone in that country "is supposed to have one vote".

Here, everyone with a BTS balance is a shareholder of the company, with the option to opt-out by just selling.
If you want more power, you need to by into the company. Same thing as with traditional companies.
HOWEVER, in BitShares, even small shareholders get a vote, and not only the top 20 investors. And that's the whole point here.

BTW, please recall that those that have more stake in the system have more interest in the success .. short- or long-term.

In the end, the costumers are a different story. They are supposed to use the product, not invest into it. That's why I ask exchanges to list bitAssets instead of BTS.

EOO (end of opinion)

sudo

cold storage menu?
bts mail menu?

user define menu?

helloworld

Quote from: helloworld on May 19, 2015, 03:15:26 AM
Quote from: onceuponatime on May 19, 2015, 03:04:20 AM
Quote from: helloworld on May 19, 2015, 02:55:59 AM
Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on May 18, 2015, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: helloworld on May 18, 2015, 09:44:24 AM
+5% , We have no power at all
I have power .. just because I have >0 BTS shares in BTS ..
It's like democracy .. even if you feel your vote doesn't count, the opinion of the mass does count!

Democracy should be one person have one vote right, not decide by person Who have more land , more money, more wealth.
BTS just like Joint-stock company, It will to do something decide by big stakeholders even if it is no correct.
BM just like Jobs in Apple Inc. ,Board of Directors is weak just like stakeholders is weak in BTS.
But BM is not Jobs, and BTS is not Apple Inc.

I know BM work hard , and payed a lot. I'm very admire him.
But a DAC should be more democracy.

If you want more vote, buy more BitShares. They are really cheap right now!

Have no power to decide something?
OK, Your should to buy more bitshares, you have no power because your bitshares not enough.   :P

But how many could make a change?
Even if buy more BTS, it could change anything?

I'm not good at write by English , I just deliver my opinion.
If my words sound terrible , I'm sorry.
BTS:bts-hero

helloworld

Quote from: onceuponatime on May 19, 2015, 03:04:20 AM
Quote from: helloworld on May 19, 2015, 02:55:59 AM
Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on May 18, 2015, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: helloworld on May 18, 2015, 09:44:24 AM
+5% , We have no power at all
I have power .. just because I have >0 BTS shares in BTS ..
It's like democracy .. even if you feel your vote doesn't count, the opinion of the mass does count!

Democracy should be one person have one vote right, not decide by person Who have more land , more money, more wealth.
BTS just like Joint-stock company, It will to do something decide by big stakeholders even if it is no correct.
BM just like Jobs in Apple Inc. ,Board of Directors is weak just like stakeholders is weak in BTS.
But BM is not Jobs, and BTS is not Apple Inc.

I know BM work hard , and payed a lot. I'm very admire him.
But a DAC should be more democracy.

If you want more vote, buy more BitShares. They are really cheap right now!

Have no power to decide something?
OK, Your should to buy more bitshares, you have no power because your bitshares not enough.   :P

But how many could make a change?
Even if buy more BTS, it could change anything?
BTS:bts-hero

onceuponatime

Quote from: helloworld on May 19, 2015, 02:55:59 AM
Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on May 18, 2015, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: helloworld on May 18, 2015, 09:44:24 AM
+5% , We have no power at all
I have power .. just because I have >0 BTS shares in BTS ..
It's like democracy .. even if you feel your vote doesn't count, the opinion of the mass does count!

Democracy should be one person have one vote right, not decide by person Who have more land , more money, more wealth.
BTS just like Joint-stock company, It will to do something decide by big stakeholders even if it is no correct.
BM just like Jobs in Apple Inc. ,Board of Directors is weak just like stakeholders is weak in BTS.
But BM is not Jobs, and BTS is not Apple Inc.

I know BM work hard , and payed a lot. I'm very admire him.
But a DAC should be more democracy.

If you want more vote, buy more BitShares. They are really cheap right now!

helloworld

Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on May 18, 2015, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: helloworld on May 18, 2015, 09:44:24 AM
+5% , We have no power at all
I have power .. just because I have >0 BTS shares in BTS ..
It's like democracy .. even if you feel your vote doesn't count, the opinion of the mass does count!

Democracy should be one person have one vote right, not decide by person Who have more land , more money, more wealth.
BTS just like Joint-stock company, It will to do something decide by big stakeholders even if it is no correct.
BM just like Jobs in Apple Inc. ,Board of Directors is weak just like stakeholders is weak in BTS.
But BM is not Jobs, and BTS is not Apple Inc.

I know BM work hard , and payed a lot. I'm very admire him.
But a DAC should be more democracy.
BTS:bts-hero

jsidhu

Quote from: yiminh on May 18, 2015, 06:58:47 PM
Quote from: jakub on May 18, 2015, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: jsidhu on May 18, 2015, 03:50:50 PM
The ui is secondary to any features of the core. Ui speed has
nothing to do with the core and is solely a problem with rhe ui code.. any of the other wallets might work better for you. With angular 2.0 it should get faster anyway.

This might be inaccurate.
In the latest hangout BM said that the current UI problems are mainly due to two issues:
1. inefficient data architecture of the back-end is reflected in the front-end
2. the communication protocol allows only pull requests from the front-end (i.e. data cannot be pushed from the back-end)

Both issues are to be addressed and fixed in 1.0.

don't call it 1.0 if it's buggier than bitcoin 0.1! bandages after bandages, dev team has made a art of making simple things complecated, whole project need to start from scratch or be abandoned.

They are rebuilding core so its more usable by integrations apps
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yiminh

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Quote from: jakub on May 18, 2015, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: jsidhu on May 18, 2015, 03:50:50 PM
The ui is secondary to any features of the core. Ui speed has
nothing to do with the core and is solely a problem with rhe ui code.. any of the other wallets might work better for you. With angular 2.0 it should get faster anyway.

This might be inaccurate.
In the latest hangout BM said that the current UI problems are mainly due to two issues:
1. inefficient data architecture of the back-end is reflected in the front-end
2. the communication protocol allows only pull requests from the front-end (i.e. data cannot be pushed from the back-end)

Both issues are to be addressed and fixed in 1.0.

don't call it 1.0 if it's buggier than bitcoin 0.1! bandages after bandages, dev team has made a art of making simple things complecated, whole project need to start from scratch or be abandoned.

Tuck Fheman

Quote from: kenCode on May 18, 2015, 10:16:56 AM
I can buy DOGE too, but that doesn't mean it will ever be worth anything.

1 DOGE = 1 DOGE

jakub

Quote from: jsidhu on May 18, 2015, 03:50:50 PM
The ui is secondary to any features of the core. Ui speed has
nothing to do with the core and is solely a problem with rhe ui code.. any of the other wallets might work better for you. With angular 2.0 it should get faster anyway.

This might be inaccurate.
In the latest hangout BM said that the current UI problems are mainly due to two issues:
1. inefficient data architecture of the back-end is reflected in the front-end
2. the communication protocol allows only pull requests from the front-end (i.e. data cannot be pushed from the back-end)

Both issues are to be addressed and fixed in 1.0.

monsterer

Quote from: karnal on May 18, 2015, 03:59:58 PM
I have not analyzed the code so I don't care to speculate on why it's slow, but it IS.

Probably because it uses over 1.3GB of RAM. Bitcoin uses 1/10 of that.
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karnal

Not necessarily, as a dumb example if a ui button is tied to a sleep(10) call in the core and excluding multithreading to keep this simple, the ui will feel slow and the problem would be in the core.

I have not analyzed the code so I don't care to speculate on why it's slow, but it IS.

jsidhu

The ui is secondary to any features of the core. Ui speed has
nothing to do with the core and is solely a problem with rhe ui code.. any of the other wallets might work better for you. With angular 2.0 it should get faster anyway.
Hired by blockchain | Developer
delegate: dev.sidhujag

xeroc

Quote from: sittingduck on May 18, 2015, 11:35:47 AM
So much is demanded by so many it is clear that this group is impossible to please.   
One needs to try the impossible to achieve what's possible!

Ben Mason

Quote from: sittingduck on May 18, 2015, 11:35:47 AM
So much is demanded by so many it is clear that this group is impossible to please.   




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Ha!  It may seem like that at times.  Remember though....for every seller there's a buyer and who's to say yet if the sellers are right or the buyers  ;D