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Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« on: May 18, 2015, 10:41:13 AM »

Belgium is right up the tracks from where I live.
Getting us a SWIFT code will allow SWIFTNet to exchange BitShares' products to/from over 10,800 financial institutions in 209 countries.
Just two of my "business contacts" (eat your heart out BM) have the power to connect us and I can get that ball rolling.
 
#1 I need your votes, please. (see my signature below)
#2 We need DPOS 2.0 and blockchain-HR as per the 10 requirements in my Poll (bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16373.0.html) ASAP.
 
I am formally requesting a transparent consensus amongst the community here before I do anything. Good? Bad?
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Re: Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2015, 10:54:03 AM »
I am formally requesting a transparent consensus amongst the community here before I do anything. Good? Bad?
Wait for the next release of BitShares before attempting to integrate it anywhere! .. seriously
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Re: Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2015, 10:56:43 AM »
I support all your hard work, networking, galvanizing, idea generation etc.

As long as Bitshares is not required to alter it's core values by compromising power-over-consensus by every network participant or fully decentralized markets in order to reach compliance then great.  If financial institutions want to use the Bitshares platform then great.  Just bear in mind that if the people decide to use Bitshares, the existing financial institutions will be dust and the new financial institutions will rise from the ranks of the people using Bitshares in short order.

The priority now should not be marketing or price or market cap.  It's getting the product right for the billions of ordinary people who are about to start demanding something new.

It's also probably worth waiting until we understand the impact of the next big releases.....

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Re: Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2015, 10:57:36 AM »
I am formally requesting a transparent consensus amongst the community here before I do anything. Good? Bad?
Wait for the next release of BitShares before attempting to integrate it anywhere! .. seriously

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Re: Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2015, 11:07:37 AM »
How's the new website coming along cass?
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Re: Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2015, 12:14:00 PM »
So besides the reliable nodes, and the 2 or 3 coders that are actually coding right now (Vikram is a GOD and I will make SURE him and his top 2 choices get paid properly if it ever comes to that), what are the other 70+ paid Delegates doing with our money today? Tomorrow? Friday?
 
DPOS 2.0 and blockchain-HR ability better be at the top of their list. Mark my words, this company will fail hard (thanx, voter apathy) if the basic accountability is not required. Dan and Stan are not business people, at all. I would have fired them and their puppies 2 months ago.
 
I'm not going to bring anyone to this blockchain if they don't code in what a successful company needs, especially a globally distributed one.
 
Dan Larimer's (enough hiding behind your childish name) "big" announcements, his new PR expert, his "business contacts", his secretive (instead of transparent) nature, his lack of response to any of our demands, his amazing new website designer and seo/sep expert, his "17,000" lines of mystery code, his "summer surprise" etc...... My patience is wearing thin.
 
You said "1st of June" Dan Larimer.. Our money is where your mouth is.
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Re: Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2015, 01:01:57 PM »
DPOS 2.0 and blockchain-HR ability better be at the top of their list. Mark my words, this company will fail hard (thanx, voter apathy) if the basic accountability is not required. Dan and Stan are not business people, at all. I would have fired them and their puppies 2 months ago. 

Just so we're clear: Are you suggesting Dan and Stan should have been fired or two of the people they hired?

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Re: Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2015, 01:33:39 PM »
So besides the reliable nodes, and the 2 or 3 coders that are actually coding right now (Vikram is a GOD and I will make SURE him and his top 2 choices get paid properly if it ever comes to that), what are the other 70+ paid Delegates doing with our money today? Tomorrow? Friday?
 
DPOS 2.0 and blockchain-HR ability better be at the top of their list. Mark my words, this company will fail hard (thanx, voter apathy) if the basic accountability is not required. Dan and Stan are not business people, at all. I would have fired them and their puppies 2 months ago.
 
I'm not going to bring anyone to this blockchain if they don't code in what a successful company needs, especially a globally distributed one.
 
Dan Larimer's (enough hiding behind your childish name) "big" announcements, his new PR expert, his "business contacts", his secretive (instead of transparent) nature, his lack of response to any of our demands, his amazing new website designer and seo/sep expert, his "17,000" lines of mystery code, his "summer surprise" etc...... My patience is wearing thin.
 
You said "1st of June" Dan Larimer.. Our money is where your mouth is.

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Re: Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2015, 01:52:25 PM »
Yeah, Ken, you're a pit bull and obviously a better marketer and boss (looking for that accountability) than Dan is, but Dan is the talent, and you and I are nothing without the product that Dan and Toast and Vik and crew make for us.  I know that it feels like you have been patient, but you need to look at what is instead of what you expect.

I believe that Dan means well, and that he has the tools and team to accomplish his dream. 

Believe me, he wants the product to be solid and flexible at the same time.

He is working magic.

He is creating a robot that enforces our constitution.  It is not easy.

I'm super pumped too, but I ain't the tough love type.  I'd give the talent some space, and realize that you have no control over this current creative process.  He is in a period of inspiration, don't kill his buzz.

He is Dock Ellis pitching a perfect game on LSD and you are the rookie telling him that he has a "no no" going:



One bobbled ball, and we wind up with a bug that will crash the share price faster than you can say "you're fired"

Take a chill pill, and don't jinx the talent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxen7thd5BU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgOqHLeKGH0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ZUPR1mPeQ


BitShares is bigger than all of us, Dan included, and he would be the first person to admit it.
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Re: Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2015, 02:01:17 PM »
DPOS 2.0 and blockchain-HR ability better be at the top of their list. Mark my words, this company will fail hard (thanx, voter apathy) if the basic accountability is not required. Dan and Stan are not business people, at all. I would have fired them and their puppies 2 months ago. 
Just so we're clear: Are you suggesting Dan and Stan should have been fired or two of the people they hired?

We don't need to pay puppy people or those who blow hot air up the bag(oops I mean share)holders asses.
 
Vikram is a GOD and he knows it. I'll protect him and his chosen few if it ever comes down to that.
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Re: Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2015, 02:12:31 PM »
DPOS 2.0 and blockchain-HR ability better be at the top of their list. Mark my words, this company will fail hard (thanx, voter apathy) if the basic accountability is not required. Dan and Stan are not business people, at all. I would have fired them and their puppies 2 months ago. 
Just so we're clear: Are you suggesting Dan and Stan should have been fired or two of the people they hired?

We don't need to pay puppy people or those who blow hot air up the bag(oops I mean share)holders asses.
 
Vikram is a GOD and he knows it. I'll protect him and his chosen few if it ever comes down to that.

I think you may be judging too much by github.  Vikram handles the releases of new versions of bitshares, so it will look like he is doing an inordinate amount of coding vs the other devs.

I can agree with you on Stan with some points, as he was elected so that he could keep Dan "sane".  Its hard to quantify what contributions he brings to bts, but I will put faith that he is working hard to see bts succeed.

17,000 of code != hot air.  Plus there will be ample documentation coming out that will help you with the business ventures your looking at doing.  Pushing to have this released now vs in 2 weeks isn't worth the bug risk imo.  Remember the old adage "Measure Twice, Cut Once".

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Re: Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2015, 02:36:02 PM »
I think you may be judging too much by github.  Vikram handles the releases of new versions of bitshares, so it will look like he is doing an inordinate amount of coding vs the other devs.

In my Poll, I requested 10 teeny tiny little features in the code, that's it. BitShares could use those features, but I doubt they will because most employees here don't want to be held accountable for anything. I WILL use those features when building DAC's. The ABILITY to offer Blockchain-HR will make the whales happy as well as employers like myself hiring a globally distributed staff. I never had that ability before and it would have saved my software company a mountain of manhour$.
 
I can agree with you on Stan with some points, as he was elected so that he could keep Dan "sane".  Its hard to quantify what contributions he brings to bts

Uh huh, and what should we do about that? Oh wait, I know, how about we vote him out? pffft (voter apathy) How about we let Blockchain-HR force him to produce something of value? Again, I direct you to my 10-point plan in the Poll.
 
17,000 of code != hot air.  Plus there will be ample documentation coming out that will help you with the business ventures your looking at doing.

Will we hold him to that? Will he meet his own deadline this time?
 
Will it offer what Whales and DAC Builders require?
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Re: Getting a SWIFT code for BitShares - Should I do this?
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2015, 02:45:45 PM »
We don't need to pay puppy people or those who blow hot air up the bag(oops I mean share)holders asses.
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hot air like this??
If you saw what brian+cass+marketing bros were up to I think you'd be ok with waiting another month or so before a "big" push. I hate vague promises of "something big is coming", but actually...

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