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Akado

Quote from: ccedk on November 08, 2015, 05:29:50 PM
Quote from: Akado on November 08, 2015, 05:01:18 PM
Quote from: ccedk on November 08, 2015, 03:36:38 PM
Quote from: speedy on November 08, 2015, 01:35:43 PM
This guy is bullish on BTS and is shorting 11600 BitUSD:

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/account/ccedkbts

Good sign, maybe he knows something...

It has come to my attention that it is of interest where the users funds on CCEDK is located, so pls concentrate on ccedkcold as well as ccedkwallet if you need this kind of info. We are still trying to make sure all is clear and set for future big push, and ccedkbts is created for the base of investments on platform and to offer liquidity on both buy and sell walls although only based on highs and lows, expecting market makers to enter with a more close to rate spread. So, I hope it is clear now that ccedkbts is the account for investments only and as such the money of CCEDK and their investors.

@ccedk
Are those investors community members from the forum or outside CCEDK investors? Cause I dont remember reading about that. Could community members participate by sending funds? I'm asking because some might be willing to help instead of letting their bts sit on their wallets doing nothing.

they are invtestors from outside and did a rather big buy some three months ago, where transaction was made on CCEDK exchange, and in regards to the other part I think it could be a great way but I suggest really a worker proposal in regards to setting up bots providing liquidity from numerous investors, and these investors receive an interest monthly for providing this, just in some similar ways as they provide liquidity on Nubits traded pairs on the various exchanges incl. CCEDK.
thanks for letting us know. Well, yeah I guess we're all just waiting on the api to be more accessible.
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openledger

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Quote from: Akado on November 08, 2015, 05:01:18 PM
Quote from: ccedk on November 08, 2015, 03:36:38 PM
Quote from: speedy on November 08, 2015, 01:35:43 PM
This guy is bullish on BTS and is shorting 11600 BitUSD:

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/account/ccedkbts

Good sign, maybe he knows something...

It has come to my attention that it is of interest where the users funds on CCEDK is located, so pls concentrate on ccedkcold as well as ccedkwallet if you need this kind of info. We are still trying to make sure all is clear and set for future big push, and ccedkbts is created for the base of investments on platform and to offer liquidity on both buy and sell walls although only based on highs and lows, expecting market makers to enter with a more close to rate spread. So, I hope it is clear now that ccedkbts is the account for investments only and as such the money of CCEDK and their investors.

@ccedk
Are those investors community members from the forum or outside CCEDK investors? Cause I dont remember reading about that. Could community members participate by sending funds? I'm asking because some might be willing to help instead of letting their bts sit on their wallets doing nothing.

they are invtestors from outside and did a rather big buy some three months ago, where transaction was made on CCEDK exchange, and in regards to the other part I think it could be a great way but I suggest really a worker proposal in regards to setting up bots providing liquidity from numerous investors, and these investors receive an interest monthly for providing this, just in some similar ways as they provide liquidity on Nubits traded pairs on the various exchanges incl. CCEDK.
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Akado

Quote from: ccedk on November 08, 2015, 03:36:38 PM
Quote from: speedy on November 08, 2015, 01:35:43 PM
This guy is bullish on BTS and is shorting 11600 BitUSD:

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/account/ccedkbts

Good sign, maybe he knows something...

It has come to my attention that it is of interest where the users funds on CCEDK is located, so pls concentrate on ccedkcold as well as ccedkwallet if you need this kind of info. We are still trying to make sure all is clear and set for future big push, and ccedkbts is created for the base of investments on platform and to offer liquidity on both buy and sell walls although only based on highs and lows, expecting market makers to enter with a more close to rate spread. So, I hope it is clear now that ccedkbts is the account for investments only and as such the money of CCEDK and their investors.

@ccedk
Are those investors community members from the forum or outside CCEDK investors? Cause I dont remember reading about that. Could community members participate by sending funds? I'm asking because some might be willing to help instead of letting their bts sit on their wallets doing nothing.
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openledger

#2053
Quote from: speedy on November 08, 2015, 01:35:43 PM
This guy is bullish on BTS and is shorting 11600 BitUSD:

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/account/ccedkbts

Good sign, maybe he knows something...

It has come to my attention that it is of interest where the users funds on CCEDK is located, so pls concentrate on ccedkcold as well as ccedkwallet if you need this kind of info. We are still trying to make sure all is clear and set for future big push, and ccedkbts is created for the base of investments on platform and to offer liquidity on both buy and sell walls although only based on highs and lows, expecting market makers to enter with a more close to rate spread. So, I hope it is clear now that ccedkbts is the account for investments only and as such the money of CCEDK and their investors.
OpenLedger blockchain in services and solutions - [url="https://openledger.info"]https://openledger.info[/url]
BitShares explorer: [url="https://bitsharescan.com"]https://bitsharescan.com[/url]
BitShares commitee member since 2015

kenCode

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xeroc

They are only short if they also SOLD the bitUSD ..

speedy

This guy is bullish on BTS and is shorting 11600 BitUSD:

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/account/ccedkbts

Good sign, maybe he knows something...

sittingduck

Highest ranked stakeholders have lost the most.    So much stupidity in response to emotions.

mf-tzo

Quote from: FIAThater on November 07, 2015, 02:43:50 PM
I wonder how many idiots are there who would ever margin trade in a market of this size? ETH is one thing, but enabling the margin on BTS market is just fucking absurd. And dumbfucks from polo trollbox who were crying over their losses 3 days back, still keep talking up their margin positions... How could people physically be that stupid?

You can't have liquidity in a derivative market without margin trading and bitassets like bitusd is a derivative of usd. So ideally what we need is margin trading in bitusd and not margin trading in BTS like it is happening in Polo. Market makers should probably work on models to allow one to take leveraged positions in bitusd by blocking BTS collateral but I am not sure how this can happen since bitusd is created by putting BTS as collateral..

I guess that someone could create an UIAusd which is bought back on a daily basis at par to bitusd minus his fees. That person will be in control of the UIAusd so he can adjust the position and the daily available supply of UIAusd and people will be able to block an amount of BTS and borrow more UIAusd (leverage). This would help the bitusd liquidity and consequently the BTS liquidity and eventually would mean more demand for both bitusd and BTS and would increase BTS price..

What we are doing now is exactly the opposite though..Margin trading in BTS and essentially looking for trouble..  ooo well...
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tonyk

Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on November 07, 2015, 03:30:31 PM
Quote from: FIAThater on November 07, 2015, 02:43:50 PM
I wonder how many idiots are there who would ever margin trade in a market of this size? ETH is one thing, but enabling the margin on BTS market is just fucking absurd. And dumbfucks from polo trollbox who were crying over their losses 3 days back, still keep talking up their margin positions... How could people physically be that stupid?

I added to my long position. Another 2,500 BTS.  :P

Last time Tony said something "price positive" the price shot up like a rocket. I'll take my chances.

But yea, anyone margining any serious amounts with this level of liquidity is just asking for a smackin'.

Well, Last time I was screaming "buy, Buy, BUY!",  this time it is just a low voice gut feeling.
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

nomoreheroes7

Quote from: FIAThater on November 07, 2015, 02:43:50 PM
I wonder how many idiots are there who would ever margin trade in a market of this size? ETH is one thing, but enabling the margin on BTS market is just fucking absurd. And dumbfucks from polo trollbox who were crying over their losses 3 days back, still keep talking up their margin positions... How could people physically be that stupid?

I added to my long position. Another 2,500 BTS.  :P

Last time Tony said something "price positive" the price shot up like a rocket. I'll take my chances.

But yea, anyone margining any serious amounts with this level of liquidity is just asking for a smackin'.

FIAThater

I wonder how many idiots are there who would ever margin trade in a market of this size? ETH is one thing, but enabling the margin on BTS market is just fucking absurd. And dumbfucks from polo trollbox who were crying over their losses 3 days back, still keep talking up their margin positions... How could people physically be that stupid?

FIAThater

Quote from: tonyk on November 07, 2015, 01:44:11 PM
I have a gut feeling...1500-1600 sat real soon.

This is definitely not that it might seem. Looks like a cheap trick to make everyone open longs and then smack the shit out of it all the way down to 700. Something is wrong here. Still watching.

Portabello75

Quote from: tonyk on November 07, 2015, 01:44:11 PM
I have a gut feeling...1500-1600 sat real soon.

As soon as 1k breaks it's a free ride back to 1400, then we shall see. No shorters left and all the dumped coin is now in the hands of holders. I plan on holding past 2000.

tonyk

I have a gut feeling...1500-1600 sat real soon.
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.