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Offline brendio

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I have the feeds set up for when this thing kicks off.

I see you stopped producing feeds a couple of weeks ago. I'm not sure whether this corresponded with you falling out of the active witnesses list. In any case, it has meant that there are no longer enough valid feeds to produce a price for the HERO asset.

So, sorry to necro-bump, but is HERO dead?

Here's my prediction:

Crypto markets are currently overheated, which means that a significant correction will happen sooner or later. At that point, most BitAssets, including HERO, will be undercollateralized and suffer a black swan. Everybody loses.
So you are predicting that the bts price will drop so fast as to trigger a chain of margin calls in the short positions of SmartCoins will not be able to sell their assets to repay their debt to the BitShares blockchain?

If you were a very large short position on SmartCoins right now, would you be settling the debt ASAP and holding in bts?

I have noticed the total Market Cap of SmartCoins has dropped by over 50% since yesterday:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,24159.0.html
This prediction turned out pretty spot on, in retrospect.

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HERO trading on OpenLedger works now

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So if I was to collateralize it with my BTS I should be getting floor price and not trading price. What is the method to exchange collateral for Hero's other than the trading site

No matter what you do with a smartcoin you'll be interacting with the open market. Either you're borrowing to short sell (I assume what you mean by collateralize), or you're buying outright because you want to collect the 5% gains.

You get the floor price if you own a HERO and you request settlement, which you'd do if the price we're consistently well below the floor price.
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So if I was to collateralize it with my BTS I should be getting floor price and not trading price. What is the method to exchange collateral for Hero's other than the trading site

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Not skilled in trading and I am interested in collateralizing HERO's but I am confused.  I thought the HERO was a stable FPA which would be valued based on the 1913 US$ with 5% APR.  Value would continue to just increase based on formula.  Now I see that there is a buy/sell wall and values change with demand.  Does not make it stable at all.  Can someone please enlighten me.

"Stable FPA" means only that it has a well-defined price floor, and in this case, that price floor is equal to the 1913 USD +5% annually.

However, the price floor only means that it can be redeemed for BTS at that price at any time; people are free to trade it at whatever price they want. In this case, because it's designed to increase in value, I expect that it's likely to be traded consistently above the price floor. I explain my rationale for this in one of the Steemit articles that Thom linked to.
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Not skilled in trading and I am interested in collateralizing HERO's but I am confused.  I thought the HERO was a stable FPA which would be valued based on the 1913 US$ with 5% APR.  Value would continue to just increase based on formula.  Now I see that there is a buy/sell wall and values change with demand.  Does not make it stable at all.  Can someone please enlighten me.

This asset is less than 24 hours old. I can understand why you might be confused. This is a "BitAsset" which is pegged to the value of the USD feed + 5%

The "interest" will not be paid by the BitShares reserver pool but rather by speculation initially and after awhile shorters in the market will provide a revenue stream. You can read about the theory in this steemit article here and here.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2017, 09:55:04 pm by Thom »
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Not skilled in trading and I am interested in collateralizing HERO's but I am confused.  I thought the HERO was a stable FPA which would be valued based on the 1913 US$ with 5% APR.  Value would continue to just increase based on formula.  Now I see that there is a buy/sell wall and values change with demand.  Does not make it stable at all.  Can someone please enlighten me.

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If I'm not mistaken, this is an idea you've been talking about for years, ever since market pegged assets came out. Your timing here seems to indicate that you're very bullish on BTS.

You need to think BIGGER, Pinky.  :)

What's bigger and pinky?

Featured figure in the subject post, and...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJPFSNu_QNs

well I just felt I wasted my time watching crab video
is this possible

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Are HERO's now available and how does one go about collateralizing them in the wallet?  I have an OpenLedger wallet.

use bitshares.org/wallet or https://wallet.bitshares.eu/market/HERO_BTS - OL did not fix the bug yet

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Are HERO's now available and how does one go about collateralizing them in the wallet?  I have an OpenLedger wallet.

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Here's my prediction:

Crypto markets are currently overheated, which means that a significant correction will happen sooner or later. At that point, most BitAssets, including HERO, will be undercollateralized and suffer a black swan. Everybody loses.
So you are predicting that the bts price will drop so fast as to trigger a chain of margin calls in the short positions of SmartCoins will not be able to sell their assets to repay their debt to the BitShares blockchain?

If you were a very large short position on SmartCoins right now, would you be settling the debt ASAP and holding in bts?

I have noticed the total Market Cap of SmartCoins has dropped by over 50% since yesterday:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,24159.0.html
« Last Edit: May 17, 2017, 06:22:40 pm by Permie »
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Here's my prediction:

Crypto markets are currently overheated, which means that a significant correction will happen sooner or later. At that point, most BitAssets, including HERO, will be undercollateralized and suffer a black swan. Everybody loses.
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first

Wow nice

So... a grandma could buy $1000 worth of HERO and sit tight and withdraw her 5% profits over her pension?
Today?
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In order to obtain a slot as feed producer, please send an email to::: feed@hero.global

 http://docs.hero.global/en/master/feedproducer.html

I think there are only 2 spots left now... someone fill the spots please :)