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[SLATE] ***delegate.xeroc***
« on: September 07, 2014, 10:03:14 AM »

Hey friends,

I figured out that slates are very important for the trusted network of
delegates. I decided to pick some delegates that I personally trust and set up
a slate for them under delegate:

delegate.xeroc

If you vote for one of the delegates above you automatically also approve the
delegates below. Buy this we can span a web-of-trusted delegates. This also
enables delegates (by their slate-list) to quickly unapprove misbehaving
delegates. So if you run a delegate by your own, you should consider setting up
a own trusted-delegates slate list.

Furthermore, delegates that do not publish feeds will receive negative recommendation!

So MY PERSONAL list of trusted delegates is:
https://bitsharesblocks.com/delegate/slate?name=delegate.xeroc

Transaction id:
8dd3cb9b5bc1843d247679d52563fb7220fe6a31
e004df139b4d8c9489a5d6aca1857653de59ba74
1428146ff9f78a755129906ae485fb85cc652294
6334217f70e0a1c48a873c2ea7d51ed5d75f9b13
ea24f996b119a526f172481fe14bbebdbdda241e
a9d74e0a00501fcc81825bad838f8c872070f193
3533977ab0191f05942877811cc0f1fe946e4855

Most of them have prooven supporters of BitShares and are well known and
trusted members of the community.
I gave my best not to forget someone. So if you have the feeling you should be
on the list because just PM me.

Happy to see feedback but I am not going to publicly discuss any reason for
including or not including individual delegates. If you feel I just missed your
delegate, send my a PM.

Update:
Source code for slate update:
https://github.com/xeroc/pytshares/blob/master/myslates.py
https://github.com/xeroc/delegate-slate
« Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 09:00:11 AM by xeroc »
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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2014, 10:14:55 AM »

a.delegate.xeroc
b.delegate.xeroc

oh come on
Theses two are:
 - not in the slate
 - not to be vote up by anyone anymore https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7673.0
 - I even messaged BM to make those two disappear from the active set of delegates


//edit: hehe .. was faster replying than you were in deleting it :)
« Last Edit: November 02, 2014, 02:31:47 PM by xeroc »
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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2014, 10:22:52 AM »
•a.delegate.charity
•b.delegate.charity

are also under your control. ^^
Yes they are and I hope to not see them in the active set of delegates soon:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7673.0

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sorry xeroc but my concerns about delegates working as slates are growing more and more...
No need to apologize ... I'd like to discuss this
I do see the issue of centralization with users running more than a single delegate. But this has nothing to do with spanning a network of TRUST.
 - I trust those guys above
 - So you should do
 - If you do not trust me, then do not vote for me
 - if you do not trust any delegate in the slate, unapprove it individually or do not vote for my delegate
 - if a delegate in the list misbehaves .. he will be kicked from the list
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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2014, 10:28:02 AM »
 :D
Please Vote : x.ebit , rose.ebit
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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2014, 10:40:40 AM »
I need to put together my own slate too. I've already voted for you so do I automatically inherit your slate? If you change your slate do I inherit those changes on my next "Vote All" transaction?

The slate is a great idea as new users haven't a clue who's who but may get to know one or two names on the forum.

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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2014, 10:59:08 AM »
I need to put together my own slate too. I've already voted for you so do I automatically inherit your slate? If you change your slate do I inherit those changes on my next "Vote All" transaction?
I am not a 100% percent sure about old transaction .. but new transactions also vote for the delegates in that list .. (if you  approved mine)

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The slate is a great idea as new users haven't a clue who's who but may get to know one or two names on the forum.
*agreed*
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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2014, 04:55:20 PM »
Just updates my list.
Source code with delegates can be found here:

Source code for slate update:
https://github.com/xeroc/pytshares/blob/master/myslates.py

!I will soon start kicking out delegates that do not publish price feeds!
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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2014, 09:33:08 PM »
!I will soon start kicking out delegates that do not publish price feeds!
I think that's fair, seems to me that every delegate should at least have USD BTC and CNY feeds at the very minimum but it looks like almost half are still missing.  Most should have the other feeds as well considering how easy alt's script has made it.

I'd recommend maybe checking feeds from delegates for a few days before banishing them from your list hah, just in case some delegates might be good but happen to have their script fail that particular day.

Also on your slate can you actively downvote delegates as well?  Might be good to help get non productive delegates out of the top 101 faster.

Thanks for putting this slate together (and including me on it), I'll have to start looking into creating my own as well.

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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2014, 09:43:38 PM »
I'd recommend maybe checking feeds from delegates for a few days before banishing them from your list hah, just in case some delegates might be good but happen to have their script fail that particular day.
When you run blockchain_get_feeds_from_delegate delegate.xeroc you get all feeds published .. EVER .. including timestamp. So at the very beginning I can completely kill all delegates from the list that do not have at least one feed ... can't tell you yet who those are .. gonna build a script tomorrow. Maybe do some statistics too .. let's see how easy this can go

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Also on your slate can you actively downvote delegates as well?  Might be good to help get non productive delegates out of the top 101 faster.
Hm .. very good question ... and honestly, I don't know for sure .. the whole slate, voting process is still a little unclear to me .. but I remember BM talking about it in one of the hangouts that was recorded .. so I might need to relisten to it again ..

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Thanks for putting this slate together (and including me on it), I'll have to start looking into creating my own as well.
I think 'slates' are an awesome idea .. it help establish a web of trust and maybe I can figure some more things out and build some animation about this too .. seems to be a new project to learn a new coding language .. yet again ;)
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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2014, 04:50:49 PM »
I just removed the those delegates that do not publish feeds (at all) and added a 'negative recommendation' (which cannot be part of the slate, technically)
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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2014, 05:18:30 PM »
When we trust the person making the recommendations as much as we trust xeroc, I think this slate can be very useful. Thank you.

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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2014, 05:32:49 PM »
auto feeding has been setup  just now,i updated the feed manually before.
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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2014, 05:44:35 PM »
auto feeding has been setup  just now,i updated the feed manually before.
I see ... bad timing :) will get you added again in the next update
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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2014, 10:23:42 AM »
I just pushed a new update.
Also created a script for others to create slates easily: https://github.com/xeroc/delegate-slate

Latest Output/list
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Opening connection to client
Opening wallet delegate
Unlocking wallet
Unapproving all previously approve delegates
Approving trusted delegates
 - a.delegate.charity
 - alecmenconi
 - angel.bitdelegate
 - b.delegate.charity
 - backbone.riverhead
 - bdnoble
 - bitcoiners
 - bitcube
 - bitsuperlab.gentso
 - bts.fordream
 - clout-delegate1
 - crazybit
 - del.coinhoarder
 - dele-puppy
 - delegate-clayop
 - delegate.baozi
 - delegate.charity
 - delegate.jabbajabba
 - delegate.liondani
 - delegate.nathanhourt.com
 - delegate.xeldal
 - delegate1.john-galt
 - dev.bitsharesblocks
 - dev0.nikolai
 - forum.lottocharity
 - happyshares
 - luckybit
 - maqifrnswa
 - marketing.methodx
 - mr.agsexplorer
 - skyscraperfarms
 - spartako
 - testz
 - titan.crazybit
 - wackou.digitalgaia
Broadcasting slate
Transactions ID: b58f8e7664f705dc36d5a08f4f4507758560247a
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Re: Slate for *.delegate.xeroc
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2014, 12:57:42 PM »
Another update:

new delegates in the slate:

 - dev-metaexchange.monsterer                                                                                                           
 - stan.delegate.xeldal                                                                                                                 
 - bm.payroll.riverhead                                                                                                                 
 - support.kettenblog                                                                                                                                                                                 
 - del0.cass   

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Opening connection to client
Opening wallet delegate
Unlocking wallet
Unapproving all previously approve delegates
Approving trusted delegates
 - a.delegate.charity
 - alecmenconi
 - angel.bitdelegate
 - b.delegate.charity
 - backbone.riverhead
 - bdnoble
 - bitcoiners
 - bitcube
 - bitsuperlab.gentso
 - bts.fordream
 - clout-delegate1
 - crazybit
 - del.coinhoarder
 - dele-puppy
 - delegate-clayop
 - delegate.baozi
 - delegate.charity
 - delegate.jabbajabba                                                                                                                   
 - delegate.liondani                                                                                                                     
 - delegate.nathanhourt.com                                                                                                             
 - delegate.xeldal                                                                                                                       
 - delegate1.john-galt                                                                                                                   
 - dev.bitsharesblocks                                                                                                                   
 - dev0.nikolai                                                                                                                         
 - forum.lottocharity                                                                                                                   
 - happyshares                                                                                                                           
 - luckybit                                                                                                                             
 - maqifrnswa                                                                                                                           
 - marketing.methodx                                                                                                                     
 - mr.agsexplorer                                                                                                                       
 - skyscraperfarms                                                                                                                       
 - spartako                                                                                                                             
 - testz                                                                                                                                 
 - titan.crazybit                                                                                                                       
 - wackou.digitalgaia                                                                                                                   
 - dev-metaexchange.monsterer                                                                                                           
 - stan.delegate.xeldal                                                                                                                 
 - bm.payroll.riverhead                                                                                                                 
 - support.kettenblog                                                                                                                                                                                 
 - del0.cass                                                                                                                                                                                           
Broadcasting slate                                                                                                                                                                                     
Transactions ID: 4f555c7d60327da905c564106f60bc4e13accced 
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