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BitShares Gaming

I prefer no longer marketing as "Gaming" DAC anymore.

The tokens(chips) used in the system are not limited to chance games, and like Tencent "Q Coins", they should not be treated as "real money", difference is they are in decentralized system.

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You should consider implementing smart contracts, where game rules are programmatically defined and ran by off the chain smart oracles.

Yes, even though I didn't totally understand smart contract, but I did have the idea to using script as the language to develop game rules, and notice that there are techs like codius, or etherum, keeping an eye on what we can learn from them, please enlighten me if you know what is valuable for us, or what we can to borrow from them.

But supporting this or allow 3rd to deploy games on our platform is at the end of my roadmap. We will have one without that first.

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DAC PLAY / Should we rebrand and give another name for Bitshares Lotto?
« on: August 07, 2014, 10:14:16 pm »
Because the Bitshares Lotto is not a single game any more, it is a platform with different games and different game tokens now.

Should we find another name for it? The downside is we already using it for a long time as brand, the good news is we have not gone too far.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=6802.0

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Yhea and casinos can issue shares for there whole casino and trade/speculate on their own asset?!!

hmm, yes in some sense.
game provider could issue init chips(they can choose they own part) provided collateral, and define the game rule.

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So it will be the casino for the casinos?

the platform for games, providing valuable token service, truly RNG service, etc.

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PLS is the main token of the DAC, and chips are special assets issued by the games.

It is different from Bitshares market issued asset like BitUSD, also different from Bitshares user issued asset. There is an exchange model between PLS and chips, which is part the DAC consensus:

Every chip asset are created with some pls collateral recorded by the system, and a total supply. After created, the collateral pls amount will be frozen in the system balance.

The game itself is free to adjust its supply according to its own business model, but there will be a system convert price between the chip and pls, according to the pls collateral and chip supply:

1 chip = ( pls collateral amount / chip supply amount) * 1 pls

This means anyone can buy/sell (in other word create/destroy) chips according to the price of current block, the amount of pls used to buy chip will be added to that collateral of the chips, and new chips will increase the chips supply. In next block, there will be a new price, according to the updated pls collateral supply and chip supply.

In this way, the best games which are welcome will have more collateral, the best profitable game will have better chip prize increasing related to pls and thus other equity. The games with unrestrained dilution similar to Tencent's Q Coin is free and ok, but will have their price of potential drop down.

One more thing, every game want to use chips as their game tokens requires:
1. Provable total supply of the game tokens
2. One way of 1: 1 transfer between chips in Bitshares Play and their system, using cross chain or support system escrow. Or more easily, develop games inside Play Platform.

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does the port need to be opened behind the firewall?

The seed node's port should not behind the firewall, otherwise other nodes can not connect to you.
But the delegate node should behind firewall to avoid potential attack.

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黑鱼,我还是感觉产品不直接面对客户的话会比较悬。。。。。。。
互联网时代的产品就是要直面客户。。。。

将LTO和chips比喻成管道里面的水和电,基础服务,Amazon的云服务一样,用户看的见摸得着吗? 不一定非要直接接触终端用户吧?

我们的擅长点在加密去中心化技术+金融,让擅长的人做擅长的事不是更好吗? 如果传统不加入我们,社区之内这么多能人志士还怕没有人来做直面用户的产品?

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黑鱼,我还是感觉产品不直接面对客户的话会比较悬。。。。。。。
互联网时代的产品就是要直面客户。。。。

黑鱼是发展代理商,分销   :P

可以比喻成提供经销网络平台,供其他人发展代理商,这个稍微接近一点,就跟比特币提供货币流通网络一样

跟自己发展代理商还是不太一样,无商品可销

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没理解错的话,这个局布的很大,统一所有游戏的虚拟币和虚拟装备交易市场,有种一统天下的感觉。思路很好,就看能否实现了。

没有那么大,从小处着手,进可攻退可守

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Why need agents ? Is it possible to bet with BTC, LTC directly ?

we need cross chain solutions for play directly with BTC LTC, other wise user need to buy from exchange, agents will help simplify the process and user experience.

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手机下不了谷歌文档。能否把正文复制一下。

感觉赌民也不光是为赌而赌,真实赌场的气氛是很难复制到软件里的。而且lotto dac是不是有点抢真实赌场生意?

http://www.bitsuperlab.com/pdf/BitsharesLottoWhitePaper.pdf

还没有完成,不足之处帮忙review, thanks.

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手机下不了谷歌文档。能否把正文复制一下。

感觉赌民也不光是为赌而赌,真实赌场的气氛是很难复制到软件里的。而且lotto dac是不是有点抢真实赌场生意?

也许是合作,而不是抢生意,Lotto只有游戏,没有博彩,市场和用户是他们的,理想的情况下,我们只提供底层的服务,筹码可以在我们这边流通。

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黑鱼人,能否想想办法,把20%左右的LOTTO股份送给澳门和拉斯维加斯那些赌民们。 :P
有条件的送给赌场老板呢?

 +5%

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黑鱼人,能否想想办法,把20%左右的LOTTO股份送给澳门和拉斯维加斯那些赌民们。 :P

赌民不是我们的目标用户,但澳门和拉斯维加斯的赌场是.

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