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总结一下他的经典关键词:画饼、空手套、傻子、传销、被骗、小白、无底洞、抗议、警告、SB、国人参与多、忽悠...etc.
每次我看到这些词就起鸡皮疙瘩
愤世嫉俗与大义凛然的形象跃然纸上
希望你坚持到最后,中间的过程别出货给小白,2年后在这个论坛向我展示你是对的。

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cdryan  表示很不满意,又不肯下车! 他比较纠结
创业者永远不可能说服所有人,这也不是创业者的义务。实在不理解就下车呗。
我实在不能理解这些人看到其他一些人支持理解创业者的时候出来说,你们都被骗了,赶快停止投资。
然后对创业者说,你们赶快停止宣传和募资,拿出东西来给我看先。
 :)

有谁让III停止宣传和募资了??请按照你原来的时间和计划执行,难道一句话“创业者永远不可能说服所有人,这也不是创业者的义务”就能包治百病了吗?
如果什么是言而有信还需要我给你解释的话,我想和争论是没必要的

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LOGXING 等有兴趣可以来深圳,我把AGS现场按PTS价格差转让给你,不存在纠结,我已经没啥兴趣了,哥们见过的骗子公司比你多得多。
大家自求多福吧,当然你可能赚钱,前提是站在更多小白的财富上。
很简单,种种迹象已经表明这不是干事业的有诚信的人应该干的事情。

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我感觉无论是用第二点还是第三点,都会被人喷死的。即使抛开涉及到的利益冲突不说,出尔反尔就会非常地让人厌恶。
主要是兑换过BTS之后用PTS得到的AGS的应用,在兑换过BTS之后 还剩下不少AGS,其实还是有一部分人仍然把手中的PTS、BTC捐给3I再换这些AGS的。看BM这样的说法应该是要顾及这些后期将PTS捐出然后得到AGS人的利益。如果按照后期分红来说后期捐献PTS的人无疑获利较小,这是不公平的,所以BM想方法对AGS的获利进行修改。
其实他一开头也说了,这只是个疯狂的想法,并没有经过谨慎的考虑,详细的计划,他们应该不会这样做。但这点可以反映出他们也正在为后期没有得到BTS兑换的AGS感到烦恼。
其实后期的AGS获利可以这样分配,将后面BTSX之后的 BTSXT ...之类的分红更多与后期的AGS挂钩,这样就会有一部分人再次愿意买进PTS换AGS,这样一来可以推动PTS的价格,也可以平衡前期AGS与后期AGS的获利。
瞎说,太撤蛋了。。。这是个市场化的过程,有什么不公平????时间也是有成本的。早期进去,风险更大,资本的投入时间更早,本身就应该占有更多的股份,如果前后一样,哪个傻子会跑前面,都等你东西差不多完成了才进了。开公司的时候投入的1快钱和上市之前投入的1块钱价值能相等吗??

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 该主题由于脏话太多被删
« on: March 17, 2014, 01:14:10 am »
1、同意即使投入了1分钱也有权利发言的说法,就像公司的股东大会,理论上说大家都可以发言;
2、同公司一样,关于业务发展方向、战略制定等决策是由公司董事会参考股东意见最终决定;当决定入股一家公司的时候,就默认同意由公司管理人员来进行决策;个人意见会被参考,但并不一定就会形成最终决策;
3、理性讨论,对所有的参与者都是好事;
其实说是这样说,目前这套来说,股东对III 没任何制约作用,除非股东选监事职位,进入公司的日常管理。

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这个怎么说好呢,你要聪明要么继续持有,要么趁早套现,发牢骚不是一个成熟的投资者,看清楚,投资者不是投机者
你的话我不爱听,我难道发言阐述观点,指出它不对的权利都没有了,你的逻辑真搞笑。
你意思是我应该和你一样,只要你的财富能从后来者身上兑现,什么都不用管。闷声发大财。
入了传销就应该当帮手是吧。III即使放个屁,不是喷的香水,你都应该站起来鼓掌叫嚣,真香啊,然后把B卖给其它人。。

不管怎么样,投资者给了你金钱和时间,你想继续让人投钱,请先证明你能把这个事业做好!!否则不是无底洞和空手套了吗。
连投机和投资都搞不清楚,还在我面前装高深。这两个词除了汉语中特有的褒义和贬义区别,是一样的,你以为。。。

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别把投资者当傻子,获得更多AGS的前提是兑现承诺和用软件证明3I你的实力,值得别人投资,你把BTX做出样子了.后面有的是人继续捐AGS的多的是.
甚至你另外开途径接收AGS都不是问题.
但现在你玩得是啥花样?
现在你做出了什么成型的产品了.那一点证明了你能做好. 不是把心思放到产品上.却冲圈更多金钱而去,难道AGS的钱还不够多吗?
你对股东的责任心就是去干这个?
不得不让人怀疑3I这么干的目的性。
就冲这点3I已经不再值得继续投资,除非先证明自己。
我在这里警告那些,拿不出任何有说服力的话语,说不出任何道理的死忠们,你个人的选择是你自己的事,不要祸害其它中国人。

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长期投资者会支持3I的不懈努力。短线投机者不看好,欢迎离开。
说的废话,不讲诚信,东西没做出来,各种跳票圈钱和长期短期有关系吗? 一根毛都没做出来,你跟我们谈不懈努力.??

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长期投资者会支持3I的不懈努力。短线投机者不看好,欢迎离开。
把钱退了,我们还怕离开阿.我看到的傻死忠,比你还忠,结果自己慢慢承受吧

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General Discussion / Re: BTS-->BTS X-->BTS ME-->BTS YOU-->BTS HIM-->?
« on: March 16, 2014, 09:16:01 am »
Is this the Roadmap of 3I development group?

BTS X was a compromise over BTS, BTS ME is a compromise over BTS X, what's next? Can you just make something working?

So far, it seems the only working product of 3I is PTS, which is technically no different from other thousands of altcoins.

Keyhotee has been advertised a long time, but neither of the basic two functions, decentralized communication and wallet, is realized. 

BTS has been delayed many times, before BTS ME is introduced.

I now really doubt the development ability of 3I, because I've never heard any successful company that CEO and key developer are the same person.

I was a fun of 3I, now I am considering to quit.

As Toast has reported, the code is essentially developed but the community has given great feedback about issues requiring more testing.  It would be foolish to launch all features at once without careful testing.  We must protect investors money.

I would never launch a new aircraft without lots of high-speed taxi testing on the ground before a short and very careful test flight over an unpopulated test range wearing two parachutes.   :)

You get to watch the tests incrementally this spring and evaluate our progress in a controlled environment.
In the meantime, we release the fruits of our work so far in tangible, useful form.  Other products you can trade, test, and experiment.

This will continue.  This is what we do.  Those who understand what it takes to bootstrap an entire industry will appreciate and approve. 

And this month we will make XTS liquid, so that those who are impatient will have a fair option to stay or go, as they choose.

Meanwhile, the Newsletter we are finalizing will lay out the complete roadmap for the coming quarter.  We are very excited about it.

 :)

Hello Stan,

It seems that some problems happened to the development of BTS X. And are there enough developers who are following the job? I just wondering just one guy who is Daniel in the team together with all the works such as developing, bug fixing, forum updating and so on?

Maybe I am not the first person who is asking this question. And sorry for my rudeness, I am worried about the process of Bitshares. Maybe you gonna finish the Bishares X first and after that you gonna focus on the other DAC.

Best regards
Fred
I think so, the monney is enough,it is time to show your development efforts to prove worthy of our continued investment III.
 +5% +5% +5% +5% +5% +5% +5% +5% +5% +5%

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General Discussion / We should design a subsystem in BitShares x.
« on: March 16, 2014, 07:54:09 am »
google translate
BitShares x provide a stable price of bitusd and bitcny , but users need to pledge 2-10 times of the BTS to

speculation, which for users is no Attractive , lost speculative leverage , as well as we create bitusd, bitcny,

who need these bitusd, bitcny it?

Demand quantity of bitusd and bitcny , equivalent to the value of BitShares x , we need to create bitusd, bitcny

needs in the world.

We should design a subsystem in BitShares x.
BitShares x  provide a stable price of bitusd and bitcny, subsystems push users to use them. bitusd and bitcny

needs mainly of two parts , one is shopping , the other one is speculative , and in a very long time, speculative

demand is Most of the needs.

In summary, there are some suggestions for BitShares x subsystem .

firstly. Design a subsystem , to provide users with speculative leverage , user-friendly speculation.
For example : User A converted 1000 dollars into 1000 bitusds, 1000 bitusds in BitShares x, A can buy a variety of

digital assets such as BTC, LTC, and so on . While A can publish a loaning information  , B has 1000 dollars , see

a loaning information, choose to A loans, the system transaction , B has 2000 bitusds to invest.

If the asset of B is approximately equal to (1000 + X) * 1.2, the subsytem will send a notice message to B, when B

's assets is approximately equals to 1000 + X, system will be send B'assets and send  1000 + X bitusds to A.
Thus , the bitusd users will have three chooses .
1.A borrower to others. 2.1000 bitusds to invest.
3.3000 bitusds to invest .

bitusd can gain will make a steady stream of dollars converted into bitusd, thereby creating a more bitusd.

secondly. subsystem painting trend analysis page , user-friendly analysis .

finally. bitusd digital money should be designed with features,such as, a payment confirmation fast , Security ,

and less data exchange and so on, to facilitate for the future needs of the consumer.

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares X Status Update
« on: March 16, 2014, 07:51:07 am »
In tonights update I would like to share some of our latest developments and roll out plans:

I have been putting together an extensive test plan and while preparing for the launch of BitShares XT have concluded that testing everything at once would be like the Wright Brothers attempting to fly an experimental airplane across the Pacific Ocean carrying 2000 passengers while under attack by severe weather.



We have many moving parts that need to be tested and for the sake of everyone involved we are preparing for a phased launch schedule that will add new features as we go.   The primary goal is to get the BTS XT shareholders liquid as soon as possible with a block chain that has a near 0 probability of reset.   The risk of a reset will significantly harm the market value of BitShares XT. 

To achieve this goal we will focus the first test on our networking code and TaPOS without the BitAssets being available.  The wallet will implement an API as close to Bitcoin's JSON-RPC API as possible and therefore should be relatively easy for exchanges to integrate with.   

Assuming this test is successful, we will use this chain as the snapshot chain for future revisions of BitShares XT that add BitAsset support.   Recent discussions in the BTS X attack thread have necessitated some significant thought and changes including among them:

   a) Closer evaluation of the Initial Margin requirements.  (10x is too much, 2x may be too little)
   b) Closer evaluation of the Maintenance Margin requirements.  (If it is too high, it increases risks for shorts, too low we risk running out of collateral on short squeezes)
   c) More robust algorithm for measuring market depth with a focus on positions near the price point.  Initial implementation simply looked at total shares involved without consideration of their price relative to other bids.   The exact details on this need to be resolved.
   d) Consider implementation of circuit breakers that halt trading if the price changes too quickly.  This will help mitigate many attacks and effects caused by short squeezes. 

As you can see there are many aspects of this that requires both development and extensive testing and none of these should be rushed.  We will likely introduce BitShares ME  (new snapshot taken from AGS/PTS) as an incremental step toward testing the Bid/Ask system with custom assets prior to implementing the more sensitive short/long system in BTS XT. 

This incremental approach will get tradable value into your hands as quickly as possible while also paving the way for many new DACs to be developed along the way. 

As you all know we want to get this out there as quickly as possible.  To achieve this goal I have almost completely delegated all non-development tasks to Gregory, Stan, Bo, and Brian who will be taking over business partnerships, marketing, Beyond Bitcoin, etc.   They have some exciting things coming for everyone that I am pleased will not take me away from being focused on delivery. 

This week I worked with Toast in person to teach him how to extend the BitShares Toolkit to implement BitShares DNS.   In three days we managed to get through a basic unit test that started the first auction.   Toast will be working on BitShares DNS full time and helping prove that our BitShares Toolkit is properly extendable.   We have a video coming out on this shortly.

google translate
BitShares x provide a stable price of bitusd and bitcny , but users need to pledge 2-10 times of the BTS to

speculation, which for users is no Attractive , lost speculative leverage , as well as we create bitusd, bitcny,

who need these bitusd, bitcny it?

Demand quantity of bitusd and bitcny , equivalent to the value of BitShares x , we need to create bitusd, bitcny

needs in the world.

We should design a subsystem in BitShares x.
BitShares x  provide a stable price of bitusd and bitcny, subsystems push users to use them. bitusd and bitcny

needs mainly of two parts , one is shopping , the other one is speculative , and in a very long time, speculative

demand is Most of the needs.

In summary, there are some suggestions for BitShares x subsystem .

firstly. Design a subsystem , to provide users with speculative leverage , user-friendly speculation.
For example : User A converted 1000 dollars into 1000 bitusds, 1000 bitusds in BitShares x, A can buy a variety of

digital assets such as BTC, LTC, and so on . While A can publish a loaning information  , B has 1000 dollars , see

a loaning information, choose to A loans, the system transaction , B has 2000 bitusds to invest.

If the asset of B is approximately equal to (1000 + X) * 1.2, the subsytem will send a notice message to B, when B

's assets is approximately equals to 1000 + X, system will be send B'assets and send  1000 + X bitusds to A.
Thus , the bitusd users will have three chooses .
1.A borrower to others. 2.1000 bitusds to invest.
3.3000 bitusds to invest .

bitusd can gain will make a steady stream of dollars converted into bitusd, thereby creating a more bitusd.

secondly. subsystem painting trend analysis page , user-friendly analysis .

finally. bitusd digital money should be designed with features,such as, a payment confirmation fast , Security ,

and less data exchange and so on, to facilitate for the future needs of the consumer.

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is there someone traslate my idea and send it to bytemaster? :'(
I attempted to read the Google translation but could not understand.
(Sometimes I don't understand this subject even when I write about it myself in English!)   :)

Has anyone done a BitShares domain-specific translation?
:'(  google translate
BitShares x provide a stable price of bitusd and bitcny , but users need to pledge 2-10 times of the BTS to

speculation, which for users is no Attractive , lost speculative leverage , as well as we create bitusd, bitcny,

who need these bitusd, bitcny it?

Demand quantity of bitusd and bitcny , equivalent to the value of BitShares x , we need to create bitusd, bitcny

needs in the world.

We should design a subsystem in BitShares x.
BitShares x  provide a stable price of bitusd and bitcny, subsystems push users to use them. bitusd and bitcny

needs mainly of two parts , one is shopping , the other one is speculative , and in a very long time, speculative

demand is Most of the needs.

In summary, there are some suggestions for BitShares x subsystem .

firstly. Design a subsystem , to provide users with speculative leverage , user-friendly speculation.
For example : User A converted 1000 dollars into 1000 bitusds, 1000 bitusds in BitShares x, A can buy a variety of

digital assets such as BTC, LTC, and so on . While A can publish a loaning information  , B has 1000 dollars , see

a loaning information, choose to A loans, the system transaction , B has 2000 bitusds to invest.

If the asset of B is approximately equal to (1000 + X) * 1.2, the subsytem will send a notice message to B, when B

's assets is approximately equals to 1000 + X, system will be send B'assets and send  1000 + X bitusds to A.
Thus , the bitusd users will have three chooses .
1.A borrower to others. 2.1000 bitusds to invest.
3.3000 bitusds to invest .

bitusd can gain will make a steady stream of dollars converted into bitusd, thereby creating a more bitusd.

secondly. subsystem painting trend analysis page , user-friendly analysis .

finally. bitusd digital money should be designed with features,such as, a payment confirmation fast , Security ,

and less data exchange and so on, to facilitate for the future needs of the consumer.

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is there someone traslate my idea and send it to bytemaster? :'(

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Keyhotee=伊妹儿+扣扣+支付宝,不过这只是存在于以前的设想中

现实会如何,还得等,唉
会成功的,我有感觉,要设计一个让参与者有利可图的模式,或者开发者持续受益的来源。我认为keyhotee无权使用DAC为投资目的的AGS募资。

Have you considered our strategy to reach out beyond the crypto-currency community?  Keyhotee is part of our plan to bring DACs to the attention of the rest of the world.  People will be attracted to Keyhotee because they are concerned about invasions of their privacy. They will get their friends to download it to communicate privately with them. Then they and their friends and their friends' friends discover the built-in wallet and DAC interfaces and become educated to all that is possible in the BitShares ecosystem.

It is hands-on viral advertising for the rest of the world.  10x, 100x, 1000x, 10,000x growth as Keyhotee and BitShares go viral together.

Those who would invade our privacy and devalue our currencies wind up driving everyone right into this community's welcoming arms.

AGS mission is to grow the industry and Keyhotee is a powerful weapon for that mission.  Better than World Cup advertising.

 :)

bytemaster, pls think my plan.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=3469.0

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