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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Committee: bitcube
« on: January 20, 2016, 06:38:51 pm »
Thanks for the update cube!

One thing I disagree with... First the committee collects the fees and only then they start figuring out what to do with them? That doesn't make sense and isn't a good practice, even if the funds are safe.

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General Discussion / Re: Hedge Fund Expects Massive 50% Yuan Devaluation
« on: January 20, 2016, 06:36:38 pm »
I think we should keep euro, silver, gold. But I really don't see this as a priority... priority should be using the fees from the pool that the committee collected. In fact collecting them without having a plan on what to do with them first didn't even make sense...

I take this from bitcube the one I saw providing an update on the situation, saying the committee was figuring it out. It should have already done it before collecting the fees in the first place.

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General Discussion / Re: Hedge Fund Expects Massive 50% Yuan Devaluation
« on: January 20, 2016, 06:22:04 pm »
Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on January 20, 2016, 06:02:03 pm
Quote from: Akado on January 20, 2016, 05:37:28 pm
with the committee proposal we might get some more assets to help with that

One community member in telegram suggested we should shutdown all our markets and just stick to BTC USD CNY. because the rest have no liquidity they should just be eliminated.

Thoughts?

What are the other markets? Does that include euro, silver, gold and oil (if we found a feed?) I think those should continue. The rest... seem kind of irrelevant atm. I don't know why we should cancel them though. What's the problem on offering that to whoever might want it in the future?

I don't see the difference between having them or not. I dont see any reason why they should be eliminated, other than witnesses having to pay for publishing their feeds... what will happen to that money then?

btw, how much is the pay of a witness?

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General Discussion / Re: Hedge Fund Expects Massive 50% Yuan Devaluation
« on: January 20, 2016, 05:37:28 pm »
with the committee proposal we might get some more assets to help with that

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General Discussion / Re: Cryptofresh Block Explorer + MUSE now available
« on: January 20, 2016, 04:08:17 pm »
Quote from: roadscape on January 20, 2016, 04:06:01 pm
Quote from: Akado on January 20, 2016, 01:21:59 am
Quote from: roadscape on January 16, 2016, 09:45:37 pm
Quote from: Akado on January 14, 2016, 05:29:15 pm
Could you fetch the volume of BitShares Asset Exchange from coinmarketcap? It would be really nice to see how volume evolves on the DAC! http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bitshares-asset-exchange/

@roadscape

CMC actually gets the data from cryptofresh :) but it's pretty hacky. When the new market api is out I'll dig into it.. definitely want to see this data..

Quote from: abit on January 16, 2016, 04:46:34 am
@roadscape Is it ok to make a remark on the fee schedule page, so that people will know that canceling an order will get fully refund of fees for created the order?

Yeah, no problem! What are the official rules for this? Isn't it like a 99.9% refund, as long as it's completely unfilled?

It would be really useful to know if our volume is growing or not!

Btw, coinmarketcap reports $0 volume in the last 24 hours, is this true or are there any problems with them getting info from cryptofresh?

Hmm.. for which pair is it showing 0 volume?

Whole DEX. That's why I found it strange. Now it's $5k which I think it's pretty good given we're up for a few months only. If we could keep this average and slowly increase it would be awesome. Let's see if we can reach 10-15k by the end of the year!

Btw, even though they have no volume, maybe coinmarketcap could add:
OPENDOGE:OPENBTC
OPENLTC:OPENBTC
OPENDASH:OPENBTC
OPENPPC:OPENBTC

maybe that way people know they have more pairs... Also why don't they just place btc instead of openbtc and bitusd and sum up the volume? it's just an iou like any other exchange but if people see that it may put them off « because they might not be sure what it is...

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General Discussion / Re: CoinDesk: OBITS Positions for Bright Future with OpenLedger on BTS 2.0
« on: January 20, 2016, 04:04:51 pm »
Quote from: ccedk on January 20, 2016, 09:05:32 am
Quote from: testz on January 20, 2016, 04:23:06 am
Quote from: Akado on January 20, 2016, 01:39:24 am
During the buyback will your orders be removed from the order books? For example, there's a sell order of 12k obits from the obits account.

Sure, in another case buyback doesn't make any sense. This was confirmed in @ccedk early posts.

Correct, thanks for the reply @testz  +5%

Thank you both just wanted to make sure.

Btw, @ccedk you might want to answer this. Is canadian dollar one of the 15 currencies you can deposit?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1332467.0

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Technical Support / Re: Is there a collateral Bond Marketplace?
« on: January 20, 2016, 01:23:26 pm »
I know there were some issues raised because of that, but I recall someone suggesting doing it Polo style, that it could be easier or at least, have less issues?

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General Discussion / Re: Us Cases for Learning the Features
« on: January 20, 2016, 01:22:08 pm »
Quote from: fuzzy on January 20, 2016, 06:17:11 am
I'll give a SILVERTICKET for each video on this list made. 
Quote from: Akado on January 19, 2016, 08:49:55 pm

1 for stable cryptocurrencies
1 for uias, crowdfund, fba, etc
1 for governance and DPOS
1 for exchanges and how they would benefit from us and how users would get a better service
1 for prediction markets and ride the Augur's hype wave (once it's implemented)
1 for bond markets (once it's implemented)

If we got together a worker proposal for @SolomonSollarsNSense I am thinking he might be interested but then again he might be too busy with his other project.
I guess mentioning will help us find out though :)

Yep, either him or @Hypercube , competition is nice.

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General Discussion / Re: CoinDesk: OBITS Positions for Bright Future with OpenLedger on BTS 2.0
« on: January 20, 2016, 01:39:24 am »
During the buyback will your orders be removed from the order books? For example, there's a sell order of 12k obits from the obits account.

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General Discussion / Re: Cryptofresh Block Explorer + MUSE now available
« on: January 20, 2016, 01:21:59 am »
Quote from: roadscape on January 16, 2016, 09:45:37 pm
Quote from: Akado on January 14, 2016, 05:29:15 pm
Could you fetch the volume of BitShares Asset Exchange from coinmarketcap? It would be really nice to see how volume evolves on the DAC! http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bitshares-asset-exchange/

@roadscape

CMC actually gets the data from cryptofresh :) but it's pretty hacky. When the new market api is out I'll dig into it.. definitely want to see this data..

Quote from: abit on January 16, 2016, 04:46:34 am
@roadscape Is it ok to make a remark on the fee schedule page, so that people will know that canceling an order will get fully refund of fees for created the order?

Yeah, no problem! What are the official rules for this? Isn't it like a 99.9% refund, as long as it's completely unfilled?

It would be really useful to know if our volume is growing or not!

Btw, coinmarketcap reports $0 volume in the last 24 hours, is this true or are there any problems with them getting info from cryptofresh?

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General Discussion / Re: When will the first business make BTS it's backbone?
« on: January 20, 2016, 01:04:44 am »
Quote from: lil_jay890 on January 19, 2016, 08:31:03 pm
Prediction markets seem to be the best thing BTS has going for it...

Come to think of it a few good PM's would be...

-How many companies actually make it to MVP with bts by end of Q2 2016?
-How much in worker proposals BTS will spend by end of Q2 2016?
-Market cap of BTS by end of Q2 2016?

- Next big exchange being hacked and btc stolen
- Next big exchange shutting down due to hack, scam, etc (like gox or cryptsy)

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General Discussion / Re: Oil Seen Heading to $20 - A good opportunity for bitOIL
« on: January 19, 2016, 11:41:19 pm »
so... do we want bitCRUDE trading on the dex?

edit: aren't witnesses getting paid for their job? this would make part of their job. Why not having all the witnesses collect some money montly and pay for a service that does this?

Only remembered now but why dont they do this? we've been all this time waiting for it. Pay would be to maintain their infrastructure and be sure they dont miss any blocks. But they work with feeds too. Why haven't witnesses bothered with this?

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General Discussion / Re: Us Cases for Learning the Features
« on: January 19, 2016, 11:35:03 pm »
Quote from: TravelsAsia on January 19, 2016, 08:55:36 pm
Quote from: Akado on January 19, 2016, 08:49:55 pm
See Factom's use case videos. They're awesome. They immediately light up that spark "wow this makes perfect sense". We need that for Bitshares. I've already told this in the past, it's something we need, but then again, it's not for free... Don't know if it would be worth a worker proposal or not..

It's worth whatever money we can throw at it in my opinion. Augur and Factom did a great job grabbing my attention with this method, it's what lead me to do further research before investing in both projects.

Exactly this. However doing this without the proper documentation or API for people to develop their own stuff  or not having features accessible to gui users will be worthless.

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General Discussion / Re: Us Cases for Learning the Features
« on: January 19, 2016, 08:49:55 pm »
See Factom's use case videos. They're awesome. They immediately light up that spark "wow this makes perfect sense". We need that for Bitshares. I've already told this in the past, it's something we need, but then again, it's not for free... Don't know if it would be worth a worker proposal or not..

Although we need them, surely not atm as features are not easily accessible for gui users. But it's definitely something we need to consider in the future, maybe 6 months - 1 year from here, depending on our current situation.

1 for stable cryptocurrencies
1 for uias, crowdfund, fba, etc
1 for governance and DPOS
1 for exchanges and how they would benefit from us and how users would get a better service
1 for prediction markets and ride the Augur's hype wave (once it's implemented)
1 for bond markets (once it's implemented)

and more according to what we add in the future. thing is, if we price all of this, I'm sure it won't be cheap. I'd like to help fund something like that though in the future once bts price rises.

This would put us in the spotlights (or so I believe i might be wrong). I believe we could reach much more people and step up. People would recognize bitshares, see it as a brand, as something that could do this and that. We would be recognized. Like Factom or Augur. They had massive marketing and everyone knows about them. We could be on the same level maybe.

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General Discussion / Re: Crowd Donations for Mike Hearn Hangout
« on: January 19, 2016, 08:42:00 pm »
Quote from: mf-tzo on January 19, 2016, 06:06:33 pm
Quote from: Akado on January 18, 2016, 07:40:05 pm
Quote from: mf-tzo on January 18, 2016, 06:14:14 pm
@fuzzy thank you. I will send you 2,000 later today.

Regarding the list I would like also Andreas Antonopoulos.
 

He has done an extremely good job helping Bitcoin in many ways,

however he is too bitcoin centric, everything other than bitcoin isn't good for him. He sees bitcoin in a pedestal and doesn't accept the idea of any other cryptos. At least that's my opinion of what I've seen of him. It's either bitcoin or nothing.

@Akado that is why it would be interesting to have him in a hangout. It would be a debate. There is no purpose doing hangouts with external parties that agree that bitshares is better than bitcoin. We should want to have debates with bitcoin enthusiasts and convince them why bitshares is better.

@fuzzy just to let you know that if you have sent me any copper or silvercoin nothing has gone through.

I agree but my opinion about him is you might try to justify with all the rational arguments and facts that he will just continue to say no, just because. He has done some pretty bold statements in the past that I was pretty amazed to see from someone like him. I don't remember about what though, maybe PoW vs PoS? Can't remember for sure.

I remember one comparison with a metaphor about cars and wheels? I don't remember if it was that one but it was something that atm made zero sense to me.

Still, I might be wrong. I'd welcome him or anyone else of course, as long as they actually debate stuff instead of just saying: no this won't work, btc is better.

I think one awesome theme to any of those guys would be Governance. How Bitcoin governance may seem to have some problems and has involved coercion and corruption (assuming Mike Hearns arguments are true). How BitShares aims to solve that. What other solutions should bitcoin or us consider, etc. Or how could BItsahres and bitcoin help each other mutually

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