Would it be possible to adapt the delegate voting mechanism and tailor it to fit such a reputationtracking blockchain? (DART, oh damn, I can hear the conspiracy theorists sharpening their pens and lighting up their interwebs already)

For e-bay- and silkroad-like ano-/pseudonymous marketplaces or trading in general some form of non-centralized corruption resistant reputation system for both customers and sellers might be a diserable thing to have.  Maybe another way of doing it would be to set it up like the insurance model, where the agents work like escrow agents and they keep track of reliability and risks on their own. If the escrow/trust-agents can be transparently monitored for corruption and hired/fired depending their performance, it might make things more practical.

If the separate reputation system is opt-in and not locked-in or obligatory then it might not be a bad thing. Higher web-cred on the DART chain would possibly allow for trading to happen with less delays and procedures as usual while still offering a bit of fraud-prevention to both parties involved.

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Not easy to come up with such a system I'd imagine, if it's even possible to do at all. It is one of the DAC applications I'm more interested in than the pure monetary ones. I'm not very happy with most current systems where gatekeepers get to decide peoples fate, but where the system is one-way only. If both (instead of one side only) parties could be judged objectively and transparently according to performance I could think of a whole range of applications that could benefit from that.

Anybody know if there just so happens to be a blacklist with blocked sites? Preferably for several countries. If so I suspect that would be a nice place to start looking for interested parties.

First few I could think of are wikileaks, piratebay etc. and probably mega. With the growing tension with Russia, people and websites like Max Keiser and alternative news agencies might be interested as well.

Considering it is one of the most read books on the planet, chances are pretty high there are a few who noticed.

There is still some room for other characters from the chivalrous tale to pop up on this forum.

Anyways, great intro and I had a good laugh when I read Toasts reaction as well.

Thanks for taking the effort to at least try to get something like this on the agenda and the community to start thinking about working for the company instead of just expecting to get rich leaning back.

I try my best to keep up with everything that's going on and help in any way I can, but my abilities are limited at best. I see myself as a newbie in the whole crypto-ecosystem and I'm still catching up. I also have no experience with bounties and how they work, nor am I well versed in advertisement or anything like that. So while it's sad to see people feeling left out in the cold, but the silence or lack of reactions, might not equate to lack of enthusiasm or support, but also people not being aware of the initiative or just not feeling they have what it takes to weigh in on the matter.

Also talking or discussing things via the forums might not be the fastest method. So here's my stupid suggestion. Lets propose a time and set of topics around this subject and have a voicechat meetup on this topic with members of this community either on the beyondbitcoin-mumble server or google-hangout or whatever works.

I haven't been able to really get into the truthcoin concept yet, but from some quick glances it sounded a bit more complex than bitsharesX. In that case a solid team and business plan to get going and then working out a good mix of funding ags/pts/others and percentages need to be worked out as well.

Since bitsharesX could be seen as entirely funded by the pts and ags holders I think the 50/50 distribution was fair. But that also seems to imply that receiving AGS-funds locks in your possible future share-distribution.

I don't think just throwing around ags funding at just about any intersting concept is going to work, no matter how great the concept is. Some silly things like technicallities and sustainability need to be addressed as well.

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Quote from: JoeyD on May 09, 2014, 09:14:35 pm

I've searched the forums a bit, but I did not see any fundraiser or announcement after Domsch last post mentioning he would come back on this. This only adds to my confusion about what actually happened here.

Even if they explain to us what happened, it can not change the fact that they don't showed respect to the community, to us ... I really Hope that the nxt community will not experience an identical behavior in the future...

I show immense respect to this community and I've met a lot of great people here. Various circumstances have required us to move to another community so that we can even start the project, so I'm not being disrespectful to the BTS community. I'm trying to set-up my business without wasting a lot of time and continuing the waiting game.

Domsch don't get me wrong I fully understand that you need to get something up and running and in your case that means having something to trade right now.

My responses were aimed towards AdamBLevines remarks and very odd depiction of the situation in my eyes. I don't understand what he's trying to say, what kind of fundraising model was he expecting from Invictus/bitshares in the first place? To me it sounds like he wanted two PTS-like-token-chains, but I don't see how that would make things any less complex or faster or even change the current situation in any way shape or form. I'm a newbie and even to me it was clear that AGS weren't liquid and locked to your bitcoin private-keys and if you wanted liquid you should get PTS.

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Now that I mention it, Domsch would bithaus be interested in trading PTS or is your model geared primarily towards bitsharesX? I also hope that the current need for money injection is only a little snag at the startup phase and that you're setting up buffers when unexpected things will happen. I'd be surprised if things will remain as relatively uneventful as they have been up till now in the crypto-currency/equity world and I hope people and businesses are mentally prepared for such times.

Quote from: JoeyD on May 09, 2014, 07:32:21 am

After mtGox, NeoBee and bitcoin marketprice taking a dump I've run out of investment money I can spend without blinking quite a while ago, actually I've long since run out of funds to invest with loads of blinking as well,

How much did you give to Invictus in the form of Angelshares?  Would you have liked Invictus to have invested any of those funds in this?

Even though I'm not a wealthy guy I am a bit hesitant to post exact numbers on a public place like this. I bought into bitcoin in early December and planned to invest around 40% into projects to further the cause and then figure out what to do with the rest. I've put similar percentages in several projects ranging from bitcoin-related ones like mastercoin to other separate less wasteful solutions like nxt (was/am more hesitant about this one because of the secrecy and messing around with the publication of the sourcecode) and bitshares-ags(to help them bootstrap the multiple competing chain initiative). At the time I also reserved an amount for Ethereum, waiting and participating in the discussion about the IPO-format with Vitalik on their reddit. However with the btc price tanking and mtGox stealing the funds I was only meaning to store for the short period I needed to reinstall my pc and setup a cold-storage solution. Then NeoBee (very similar in concept to Bithaus) collapsing overnight without warning has left me with little more to give and me being a lot more hesitant to just donate on trust alone. Regarding the investment and community involvement in Bithaus here's my take on it and I would like to know where communication went wrong.

If I recall correctly I only got involved in bitshares around February this year, so I missed anything before that time and I don't know if Bithaus had been discussed at depth at that time already. The thing is I was under the impression Bithaus would contact the community on this forum and show us some details and information after which some kickstarter style crowdfunding would be setup. At least that was the last thing I saw on the forum. Other than the idea and some screenshots I have/had no detailed information on which I could make any judgement on investment or even form an opinion if AGS should or should not be used for this. Also I don't believe at this point the crowdfunding was presented as being solely dependent on AGS, but I did not see or hear from Bithaus again until I saw the posts yesterday.

Admittedly while I was waiting for them to come back with the promised project details and crowdfunder announcement, I was quite distracted with the aftereffects of mtGox and NeoBee (which I was very enthusiastic about and invested in) so I was not looking into Bithaus daily, and in the back of my mind expecting them to publish something when they were ready. Also after NeoBee I want to have some more detailed information, before taking another risk like that again or even forming an opinion if AGS-funds should be spent on this project.

I've searched the forums a bit, but I did not see any fundraiser or announcement after Domsch last post mentioning he would come back on this. This only adds to my confusion about what actually happened here.

Nevertheless in light of the recent calamities I'm not sure that the requirement of not blinking an eye before throwing money at something is the most prudent requirement for investing. Don't take this the wrong way Domsch, but I sure do hope people do more than just not winking, if I'm not mistaken due diligence supposedly requires lots of blinking. Frugality amongst nxt-ers might also not be the very best of typecasts.