What is the best way to ensure some type of security / half privacy before 2.0.

I am not obviously in the richest list, more like in the poor / fanboy list but nevertheless I do not want to appear in any list with all my balances.

My thoughts are the following:

1. Have a main account with lifetime membership to reduce fees (or more than one if associated others with businesses).
2. Have other accounts (as opposed to 1 cold storage) and have random amounts distributed across them, the accounts will be named randomly.
3. If I need to spend / sell pull out from one of the accounts to main account.
4. If I am buying (not much) use main account.
5. If I become rich (some miracle) step 2 again.

Please improve it, as this is rather simple.

Before 2.0 I would say:

- Transparently proxy your BitShares, it does not matter how many accounts you have if your IP is broadcasting transactions in the clear. Depending on who you are trying to defend against, not doing this could immediately spell failure.

- Register your accounts as TITAN, then over the course of days/weeks:
 - Slowly resend funds to your own account and then spread it around the other accounts with the same technique.
 - Keep in mind that sending from your non-TITAN account (presumably where you have the funds now) to a TITAN account will create a link between them.
 - Same goes for the .5 BTS registration fee. I *believe* there will be no discernible trail if you register a TITAN account *from* a TITAN account, however.
- Every now and then resend funds from the accounts to themselves, using different amounts each time. Make it look like normal transfers.

- I'd skip the random names, in the event you botch up and someone is trying to follow your footsteps, regularly sending funds to 10 accounts with random (e.g: xjdgFjdgf) names will stand out like a sore thumb.


Either way, all of this seems to be set to become a moot point soon; see https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16823.0.html

Anonymity is an illusion, meanwhile here I am posting this from tor, with an account that was registered with an email that does not trace back to my 'real' identity.

Anonymity is an illusion, meanwhile we have Monero, Dash, Zerocash, and others.

Anonymity is an illusion, meanwhile I pay for 99% of the stuff in daily life with cash; The merchants have no idea who I am, the bank has no idea where I am and what I'm buying, and the advertisers have no idea what spam to push.

Anonymity is an illusion, meanwhile thousands of people use the Tor network daily and are able to circumvent censorship, and access and/or publish information that would otherwise potentially put them in great danger. And anyway, fuck Big Brother. We have the right to read what we want to read without BB compiling a neverending list of habits, preferences and favorite authors.

Anonymity is an illusion, meanwhile even the UN gets it: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/FreedomOpinion/Pages/CallForSubmission.aspx


Au contraire, I would say. Anonymity is essential for fighting tyranny, oppresion and control. Anonymity is a human right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Global_surveillance_disclosures | Without anonymity, you are making their illegal/immoral job that much easier.

https://www.eff.org/issues/anonymity 
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/10/online-anonymity-not-only-trolls-and-political-dissidents 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o66FUc61MvU 





Even in Bitcoin it is possible to retain functional anonymity altough one needs to be very careful about it. Different wallets, minding change addresses, not mixing the wrong inputs, etc.

I may be wrong but this level of granularity does not seem to be present in BTS 2.0. The solution seems to be creating more accounts. Which presumably cannot be deleted. This does not scale; I've easily used 5000+ bitcoin addresses in the few years using it.



Also, while TITAN may have had its flaws, it was at least possible to maintain anonymity with the right precautions. It seems better to have the option rather than destroying the alternative and force everyone to be naked.

I would take a slower wallet which at least allows for the possibility of privacy rather than a super-fast one that is the wet dream of any bankrupt inflated government hellbent on getting its hand on every last dime it can.

It would be nice to have the choice.

Users can still create many different accounts that never transact with one another, and thereby maintain a high level of privacy.

This one I find particularly misleading. Most users will be coming in from exchanges; The exchange then necessarily knows where the user withdrew to. And since all transaction history will now be public....

We are back to the same "problem" of having to carefully spread transactions over many hours/days and using dozens of accounts.
Except now the wallet has to be littered with them.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16780.msg215213.html#msg215213

I'm concerned that this would get lost in the above thread, as it's not the main topic. So I am opening this thread in order to hopefully get some feedback from the developers regarding privacy (or the lack of it) in BTS 2.0.


1. What is wrong with TITAN ('illusion of privacy'), were the reasons discussed (and if yes, where?), and are the flaws fatal?

2. Is a replacement system being worked on ?

3. Is privacy a goal or high priority item in BTS 2.0 ?


I am deeply concerned about the eventuality that no thought has been given to privacy, in my opinion full transparency on these matters is the road to economic totalitarianism. Especially so on a blockchain.

I'm very strongly against the whole world now and forever knowing the full state of my economic affairs. That is a private matter that concerns me and a few other people. Surely many other shareholders feel the same. At least I hope so!

Quote from: karnal on June 08, 2015, 09:26:17 pm

Also, it seems the new client is not the same codebase as 0.9.x.

Is TITAN also baked in the new codebase? Will we have privacy built-in by default?

No, no TITAN. This is a good thing! TITAN wasn't really very effective for privacy, but it gave the illusion of privacy. Also, TITAN was one of the reasons the client was so unbelievably slow.

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This is deeply disturbing. How do we use BitShares 2.0 with privacy, this being the case?

What is being done to preserve privacy in the system?

+ very concise indeed. Thanks for writing it up!

Also, it seems the new client is not the same codebase as 0.9.x.

Is TITAN also baked in the new codebase? Will we have privacy built-in by default?

Excellent!