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General Discussion / Re: [Documents] Whitepapers & Broschures
« on: February 01, 2015, 05:21:10 pm »
The only point about interest or yield in the whitepaper is buried at the end of the 8th paragraph and is not really mentioned in the "outlook" or intro paragraphs:

End of 8th paragraph: "In this way, holders of market pegged assets can also collect an additional yield on their savings."

@agent86 Should we not emphasize yield more than we are currently?

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General Discussion / Re: Our New Website Is Live!
« on: February 01, 2015, 05:13:47 pm »
Had the same initial reaction... Great minds....

I vote for a green risk button too - and also green around the "200%" and "300% collateral" points

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Technical Support / Re: Hello, I guess I'm a Newbie
« on: February 01, 2015, 02:19:27 am »
Welcome!  To learn about the bit assets and the decentralized exchange, check out the website bitshares.org and the whitepapers there.  The exchange itself can be found in the wallet and there you'll find many markets to exchange bitshares for market pegged assets and user issued assets.

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General Discussion / Re: Decentraliced Dice Game is a awsome idea!
« on: February 01, 2015, 01:32:41 am »
Quote from: Helikopterben on February 01, 2015, 01:25:21 am
I have always thought of crypto projects as a "you build it, they will come" model.  Look how far bitcoin has come with no (or very little) marketing in the beginning stages, and arguably negative marketing with the allegations of ponzi scheme, beanie babies, tulip bulbs, terrorism, child pornography, ect, ect, ect.  Marketing at this stage is largely unecessary.

Agree largely with what you are saying, except I would argue that it was mining that was actually a huge and expensive marketing effort for BTC

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Beyond Bitcoin [closed] / Re: BeyondBitcoin hangout with Bytemaster 01-30-15
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:47:18 am »
Quote from: bytemaster on January 31, 2015, 12:31:12 am
We will spend money on marketing when we have a strategy.

How can you not have a strategy?   

Quote from: bytemaster on January 31, 2015, 12:31:12 am
If marketers are so great at marketing then they can get elected with multiple delegates to get the job done.

Glad to see this faint ounce of encouragement for our marketers.

Quote from: bytemaster on January 31, 2015, 12:31:12 am
I am now very cautious about spending on marketing

This is both good and bad. 

Quote from: bytemaster on January 31, 2015, 12:31:12 am
I am looking for angles that produce results.

These are right under your nose.  For instance - Facebook and our delegate RGCrypto. You need to make guys like RGCrypto full time.  RG is a 100% delegate however is unable to draw salary, unlike you.

Quote from: bytemaster on January 31, 2015, 12:31:12 am
Perhaps I was just burned by a few

Unlike before, all delegate results are now peer reviewed so it won't be "you" getting burned.  Going forward in the short term we clearly need your blessings if we're going to elect in a lot more dollars for marketing.  I hope you bring more marketing to the game going forward. 

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Beyond Bitcoin [closed] / Re: BeyondBitcoin hangout with Bytemaster 01-30-15
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:25:43 am »
mining is a thin veil for Bitcoin's early marketing campaign

we need to realize the analogy and see through the veil - when BM is ready to pay marketers directly and dish a ton of dough for marketing maybe guys like hpenvy and methodx will be willing to really work for us. 


Remember what BM says about work?, PEOPLE DON'T WORK FOR FREE.    ..I'm sure you guys don't need a direct quote from the forum...

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Beyond Bitcoin [closed] / Re: BeyondBitcoin hangout with Bytemaster 01-30-15
« on: January 30, 2015, 11:34:19 pm »

Quote from: bytemaster on January 30, 2015, 11:03:00 pm
I know several people that play bingo for money multiple times per week.   I know others that play bingo every time they go on a cruise!   It is "entertaining" in the same way as TV.

It is mindless....  but you know what... so are most people ;)

so apparently you know several people and those people occasionally play bingo.  This is an absurd way to justify bingo development.

I think gambling may be a great angle.  But this is just an absurd approach.


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Beyond Bitcoin [closed] / BeyondBitcoin hangout with Bytemaster 01-30-15
« on: January 30, 2015, 11:28:20 pm »
In light of this effort into bingo all I can say is I hope someone grilled you on air for your lack of marketing encouragement lately. This project needs marketers asap.  Bitcoin had mining.  Mining is inflation to pay marketers/evangelists.  Bts inflation is meant for the same thing.  . MethodX has put his efforts on the backburner.  Hpenvy has completely cooled off.  Both because there is only a tiny amount of money for marketing *and absolutely zero dollars for marketers.*. Devs are only ones who can apparently *get paid*. How about putting some support where it should be.  Why is it Tech guys always think tech does the marketing, when it flat out doesn't.  Dollars do the marketing.  We need dollars for marketers and dollars for marketing.

Case in point:
Inflation = mining
Mining = marketing
Mining = Bitcoin popularity
 Inflation = dollars to spend

If we spend our inflation dollars on marketing, then we get BitShares popularity.

If you want this damn to thing to take off before BitShares music grabs the spotlight, then elect in the remaining 75 delegates and pay for marketing, as well as marketers.  That would be leadership.  Don't let this ship sink.

Bingo tech does not do marketing - dollars do marketing



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General Discussion / Re: This is what I want to see for BitShares
« on: January 30, 2015, 05:57:16 pm »
+10% rgcrypto


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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Business development delegate
« on: January 30, 2015, 01:47:40 pm »
+10%


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General Discussion / How badly do you want professional recruiters working for BitShares?
« on: January 30, 2015, 02:23:48 am »
It's marketing - if they make 100 reach outs a day to our target market aka tech savvies, then we begin to make a solid connection into the hive mind of tech.  And If some of them end up getting inspired and working directly for us, all the better.


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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Update from 100% delegate marketing.methodx?
« on: January 29, 2015, 11:18:57 pm »
We should get more marketing delegates fund method and rgcrypto as well as other initiatives


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General Discussion / Website Header
« on: January 29, 2015, 06:04:54 pm »
The website header says

BitShares Decentralized Exchange.


We need to know if this is actually better for conversions than

BitShares Blockchain-based Exchange



"Decentralized" will hinder adoption imo!  We need to be about marketing to everyone that visits our site, and not scare off non radicals.  bm please acknowledge this concern


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General Discussion / You Can't Front Run BitShares [BLOG POST]
« on: January 29, 2015, 05:51:00 pm »
Worth mentioning Flash Boys in this post?  And what criticisms, if any do you have of FB?


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General Discussion / BitUSD atomic cross chain trading
« on: January 28, 2015, 01:46:00 am »
Quote from: Tuck Fheman on January 28, 2015, 12:31:04 am
Quote from: Carpet Ride on January 27, 2015, 11:25:40 pm
It's true, people do not care about 'decentralized'.

blasphemy! 



 :P

Painfully waiting to market security and utility at 1.0.  However I am glad we at least have ideology and decentralization to market in the meantime


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