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Meta / Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« on: December 12, 2015, 10:11:55 pm »
I can't believe a "free speech" forum is discussing censorship?!

No to censorship. Ban children from the forum instead.

How does the forum assess who are children? All our individual opinions may differ.

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General Discussion / Re: Brownie price: Panic or not?
« on: December 12, 2015, 04:20:30 am »

I would be happy if someone would help me to make some profit.

WOW!!!  So would I.  Couldn't say it any better than that.

Who will make us some profit?

I'll send you 36 LOLLIPOPS and 232 WET KISSES and 1 & 1/2  very exclusive, limited edition DACHAS with cream on top. All you have to do is make us some profit (but not in LOLLIPOPS, WET KISSES or DACHAS since I can get as many as I want of those).

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This fairytale has been brought to you by onceuponatime  8)

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General Discussion / Re: Millions of Features, Features for Me!
« on: December 12, 2015, 03:28:58 am »
@bytemaster what you've done is recreated an innovation game called "Buy a Feature".

http://www.innovationgames.com/buy-a-feature/

http://www.uxforthemasses.com/buy-the-feature/

Wow! Did you run across that before or after this thread came up?

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General Discussion / Re: Millions of Features, Features for Me!
« on: December 12, 2015, 02:19:46 am »
...This is because I am probably much older than you and did my schooling before there were computers. There weren't even calculators when I went to school!

Me too.  (Well, our school mainframe did have 8 kilobytes of core memory.)  The HP-45 scientific calculator (with Reverse Polish Notation) first came out when I was a Sophomore EE student.   

While others were sniffing glue, I was sniffing that calculator. 
I still put it into the microwave once in a while for a few seconds, just to relive that "new calculator smell".
Better than "new car smell" IMHO.


Kind of sad when in 2015, 'the millions of features' actually boils down to 'the feature for me (and all of us)" is the same calculator of 1981, as the  Grandfathered :) option...

 :(

God, Tony! You are one of the people that I would invest in!  (I actually bought some GreenPoints although I did sell them again when you jumped ship - I'm not stupid).

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General Discussion / Re: Millions of Features, Features for Me!
« on: December 12, 2015, 01:02:15 am »
Nice.

but then again why is this voting... for only after "the stealth non-sense is implemented"?


0. Stealth
1. Bond Market (Poloniex Style Lending)
2. Prediction Market (Auger Style)
3. Ethereum (or something similar) VM integration
4. Liquidity Incentivisation
5. Gambling Systems


Just calling it "nonsense" doesn't make it so. Please present an argument.


Well it is as sensible as the rest of them.
Why is it more sensible (deserves special treatment, in your mind)?

It deserves special treatment because @onceuponatime has already been grandfathered in.  I don't want to take the deal he earned and auction off his profits.  Also, he was planing to pay in fiat which is much appreciated.  Furthermore, I think his plan is further developed than some of the others.   



Unfortunately this is my take on the whole issue as well....the main difference being someone paying in cash....seeing said cash clouds any other reasonable judgment.

The other unfortunate fact is even with his great generosity , love for the project and willingness to take a huge risk for BTS .... he is sadly lacking the ability [actually stubbornly refusing to do so] to properly judge what is best of his beloved (his and mine) project.

It is true that I lack many of the skills that you and others might have in this modern age and on this Forum. This is because I am probably much older than you and did my schooling before there were computers. There weren't even calculators when I went to school!

That doesn't mean that I lack common sense or discernment and discrimination. I'm sure that I have spent more time living on the streets than either you or even Martin 38PTSwarrior. I have traveled and lived in dozens of countries. I have degrees in Business Management and Economics and have worked (before the smell got too bad) as a special investigator for a Federal Government. I have slept under bridges and I have slept in palaces.

I think that I am as good a judge of character as anyone on this Forum. And I invest in people.

Perhaps your famous and cutting edge cynicism could be enhanced by a dash of Humility?

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General Discussion / Re: Millions of Features, Features for Me!
« on: December 12, 2015, 12:24:49 am »
Nice.

but then again why is this voting... for only after "the stealth non-sense is implemented"?


0. Stealth
1. Bond Market (Poloniex Style Lending)
2. Prediction Market (Auger Style)
3. Ethereum (or something similar) VM integration
4. Liquidity Incentivisation
5. Gambling Systems


Just calling it "nonsense" doesn't make it so. Please present an argument.


Well it is as sensible as the rest of them.
Why is it more sensible (deserves special treatment, in your mind)?

I guess i have been grandfathered in by Cryptonomex since I came up with the idea and made my offer before the present discussion even began. But I am dependent upon the same vote as everyone else. If a Worker proposal doesn't get voted in, my offer to fund a Privacy Mode feature is dead in the water.

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General Discussion / Re: Millions of Features, Features for Me!
« on: December 12, 2015, 12:14:16 am »
Nice.

but then again why is this voting... for only after "the stealth non-sense is implemented"?


0. Stealth
1. Bond Market (Poloniex Style Lending)
2. Prediction Market (Auger Style)
3. Ethereum (or something similar) VM integration
4. Liquidity Incentivisation
5. Gambling Systems


Just calling it "nonsense" doesn't make it so. Please present an argument.

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General Discussion / Re: Millions of Features, Features for Me!
« on: December 12, 2015, 12:05:39 am »
So if Mr. Duke has 100,000 BTS to wager and Mr. Valentine has 100 BTS to wager, it is the Mr. Dukes of the world who will control the agenda. This sounds like pay to play. Am I mistaken?

Mr Valentine sounds like a lover and should have no problem getting together a group of his most many intimate friends to play any game they can think of.

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Meta / Re: Censorship is a sign of weakness
« on: December 11, 2015, 06:43:25 pm »
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“The Right To Swing Your Fist Ends Where My Nose Begins”

We are in a bar, a customer is constanly punching people in the nose, he is thrown out of the bar and some people are complaining that he should be left alone because he had every right to swing his fists! OMG!

Physical violence analogies don't apply to a forum post that can be simply ignored IMHO.

You're in a bar. A drunk pukes all over the floor, causing a nasty smelling puddle. You are free to look the other way, and put a clothes pin on your nose.

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"Looking at the numbers"
You're living in LaLa Land. My proposal is that the fee be 3x the regular transaction fee. How much is the transaction fee for a lifetime member again? And who do you think other than lifetime members is going to use such a feature? Private Mode transactions could be a tiny percentage of all transactions. And transactions now are very very few. I am risking a significant part of my life savings to help bootstrap BitShares. What are you doing?

That proves nothing.  Can someone else prove my numbers wrong and actually use real numbers to do it.

Quote from: bytemaster
Stealth transfers cannot participate in the referral program. The fee for a stealth transfer can be higher (premium service) at about $0.50

Looking at the numbers.  If stealth transfers are charged $0.50 per transaction and you get $0.30 per transaction, then your $45,000 investment will be worth $157,680 in one year at a tx rate of just 1tx per minute.  At 1tx/sec (about half of bitcoins tx rate) that is $9,460,800 per year for a $45,000 investment.

Otherwise the numbers are correct.

I apologize. I have checked further and my understanding was flawed. Here is the feedback I got from Stan and Dan:

"The referral program does not play with Privacy mode transfers (because it is private, we don't know who the parties are or who referred them).  This means that even if the fee were the same as the basic transfer, on average the lifetime member would be paying 5x more a Private Transfer than a Public Transfer.   If you charge 3x the basic transfer fee, then life time members will pay 15x more for a Private transfer than a Public transfer.

Percentage based fees are not possible with Private Transfers because the amount being transferred is Private!   

Dan"


So, if the Privacy Mode charges a fee 3x the base fee of 30BTS, that will be 3 x 30 = 90BTS

At current prices, that is approximately 90 x .0039 US$ or about 35 cents US for a Private transaction. This would adjust with our BTS market cap as the Committee adjusts the base transaction fee.

Once we have recouped our investment, I presume there will be pressure on the owners of a STEALTH Asset to lower the 3x fee in order to not be undercut by potential competition.
Or, STEALTH Asset owners may use a goodly portion of our fees to enhance our service in order to stay competitive.

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General Discussion / Re: Philosophy Discussion: Privacy vs. Openness
« on: December 11, 2015, 06:28:33 am »
Game for privacy is gone, mass surveillance is here to stay – Assange on #RT10 panel
https://www.rt.com/news/325524-assange-privacy-rt-10/

Quote
Privacy “will not be coming back, short of a very regressive economic collapse, which reduces the technological capacity of civilization,” Assange said.

“The reason it will not come back is that the cost of engaging in mass surveillance is decreasing by about 50 per cent every 18 months, because it’s the underlying cost that’s predicated on the cost of telecommunications, moving surveillance intercepts around and computerization and storage – all those costs are decreasing much faster at a geometric rate than the human population is increasing,” he explained.

Mass surveillance and computerization are “winning” the competition with humanity and human values and they’re “going to continue to win at an ever-increasing rate. That’s the reality that we have to deal with,” the WikiLeaks whistleblower added.

So why are so many computer geeks incentivized to work for the coercion and surveillance  teams rather then the privacy and freedom teams?

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General Discussion / Re: 38,094 BTS for 474.489 BARRAS
« on: December 11, 2015, 01:47:17 am »
I'm worried this guy is going to up the anti until one day he leaves with a whole pie.

Prove me wrong dichalcog3nid3, I just don't know how your going to do it.

dichalcog3nid3     
Date Registered:
    November 17, 2013, 06:12:20 PM

eagleeye
Date Registered:
    August 20, 2014, 09:10:36 PM

Why are you casting aspersions on him specifically (I'm worried this guy) rather than a general caution about the risks of this kind of loan?

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Meta / Re: Censorship is a sign of weakness
« on: December 11, 2015, 12:19:42 am »
"But teh rulez!"

such anarchy.

Hey, did you guys vote for stealth transactions?

What is your understanding of "anarachy"?

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Meta / Re: Censorship is a sign of weakness
« on: December 10, 2015, 08:55:18 pm »
He repeatedly violated the Terms of Service that he agreed to in order to use this forum.
I think he should have been banned quite some time ago. I am against censorship of ideas or discussion or criticism. But quite often his posts were none of those. They were verbal violence against another Forum participant.

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