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What do you think that label "Take off" at the transition between Stealth and Awareness Phase means?

Media attention is not about coinmarketcap.com. The crypto community is tiny.
Go and search for "BitShares" in Google News. How many hits do you get for the last week? Compare that to a search for "Bitcoin".


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Technical Support / Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« on: September 08, 2014, 01:31:26 pm »
Hi guys,

I just would like to say that I have same problem of understanding this, specially this statement
"Going short/long at the same time is equivalent to holding BTSX with an option to double your stake at todays prices at any time."
The way I understand this statement is if I have 100000BTSX and split it 50% in BTSX short and 50% buy bitUSD long then in some time in the future I should be able to double my original 100000BTSX. It would be really great if somebody who has better understanding of  this to try to explain it to some of us who don't get it.

Regards  :)
I don't think anybody understood that one - it's been totally ignored in the original thread.
Normally BM's arguments are fairly reasonable. But then he was sick over the weekend. ;)

edit: he seems to be explaining something related here:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8521.msg110787#msg110787

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General Discussion / Re: Is Bytemaster Satoshi??! :)
« on: September 07, 2014, 05:59:45 am »
Yes, I think we should start calling Bitcoin "BitShares 0.1".

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General Discussion / Re: BitUSD vs CoinoUSD
« on: September 06, 2014, 01:30:17 pm »
How is this CoinoUSD different to a Ripple IOU?
Ripple would be equal to NXT, both provide the infrastructure. Then a backer (Coino...) or a bank that acts as a gateway issues the USD IOU. I don't see a real difference except maybe that it might be easier for banks to plug into the ripple trading network (regarding interface and legal), which is my speculation though...
So in Ripple both, the network and the IOU issuer are centralised.
In NXT the network is decentralised but the IOU issuer still centralised.
I wonder what the next step would be ....

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One thing, fairly easy to implement and creating demand for BitAssets instantly would be:

Allow shorts post their collateral in BitAssets, not just BTSX.

For example if you think the BTC/USD ratio is overvalued and will sink, you can't hedge that in BitShares. It would be cool to be able to short BitBTC against BitUSD. This creates extra demand for BTSX because the BitUSD used in the collateral would have to be created by somebody else in the first place, using BTSX as collateral.

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General Discussion / Re: BitUSD vs CoinoUSD
« on: September 06, 2014, 10:48:22 am »
How is this CoinoUSD different to a Ripple IOU?

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General Discussion / Re: Interest on BitUSD - A Proposal for Review
« on: September 06, 2014, 10:36:47 am »
I see the need for interest on BitUSD but why offer more interest if BitUSD is held longer without selling (not only totally but proportionally)?
Apparently the non-linear interest is already history. BM mentioned that somewhere in the mumble.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8423.0;topicseen
https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/bitshares-community-and-developer-hangout-9-5-2014
Sorry, I forgot the timestamp :)

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General Discussion / Re: Interest on BitUSD - A Proposal for Review
« on: September 06, 2014, 06:50:43 am »
This proposal is problematic because it destroys the fungibility of BitUSD. BitUSD that haven't moved are suddenly different from, and more valuable than, other BitUSD. His proposal encourages "banks" to spring up -- businesses that allow users to deposit their BitUSD on a fiduciary basis, and try really hard to keep from moving their BitUSD. Users then have some outside mechanism to move around claims against BitUSD deposits while the deposits themselves sit in the bank vaults and accumulate the maximum interest since they never move. The users and banks would then split the enhanced interest they extract, making this arrangement economically sustainable.
You can read about my alternative proposal here:  https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8422.0
Very good point! Essentially this means having a progressive interest rate would encourage trading outside of BitSharesX rather than within.


A short position has collateral from two sources: one is the BTSX paid by the BitAsset buyer (I call this BTSX the reserve); the other is the BTSX paid by the short seller (I call this BTSX the margin). The collateral = reserve + margin. The current rule is that the margin needs to be at least equal to the reserve initially (200% backed initially). At some point the short seller covers or the DAC does a margin call. If the price of BTSX goes down with respect to the BitAsset, then some of the margin is needed to cover the BitAsset debt when covering. Whether the short seller covers at a loss or the DAC does a margin call, the mechanism would work the same way it currently does. However, if the short seller covers at a profit, things would work a little bit differently compared to today. If the short position is covered at a profit, that means that only a portion of the reserve is needed to pay the debt and the remainder is profit. This remainder should be split according to some percentage specified when the short position was created and one part is paid as profit to the short seller and the other part is collected by the DAC as a fee (in reality the cover would require excess BitAssets to not only cover the debt but also the value of the fee according to the current price so that the DAC essentially trades the BTSX fee for the BitAsset fee). These fees are collected to pay variable interest to the BitAsset holders in a way similar to what I described earlier.
I'm not sure introducing a Capital Gains Tax into BTSX is a good marketing tool. :)

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General Discussion / Re: Interest on BitUSD - A Proposal for Review
« on: September 06, 2014, 04:25:10 am »
In the past I have been stongly oposing what is now called BitUSD5 based on the fear that it would trade so high above the peg to dry up the market and even cause a run-away towards infinite prices.

This current "rewards" proposal seems to be much more workable. One thing I would like to add to the discussion:

Any thoughts on how sustainable a level of 5 or even 10 % p.a. of interest/dividends/rewards, as it was mentioned, would be? My guess is that it would quickly drop to something insignificant - like the fractions of one per cent on mcxnow.

The current amount of BitUSD existing is tiny and they have all been created recently - so lots of fees for few BitUSD.
Once interest payments start many big holders will trade with themselves to create equivalent short and long positions, effectively tying most of their BTSX holdings up in collateral. This is at no risk to them (they can cover anytime at any price) but gives them the advantage of getting a large cut of the interest payed. All this means not so many fees for very many BitUSD.

Some thoughts on other issues related:
- Wallet would have to ensure that balances are LIFO.
- Don't promise a minimum rate if you can't garantee a minimum fee's income which you can't.
- I don't like the word reward either, it sounds like someone wants me to sign up for some card to get my address and spending profile. I think interest is the wrong word for this concept and would prefer dividend but I do understand that the terms interest and dividend might be legally challenging.

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Technical Support / Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« on: September 06, 2014, 02:17:39 am »
Is it a way to make orders depending on bitUSD/USD ratio?
I mean how can I put an order to buy bitUSD for example when bitUSD is 85% of USD and lower without the need to calculate it manual every time?
Within BitShares not at the moment.
It would have to be linked to the delegate price feed which some might consider a risk. But since short orders depend on that feed I can't think of a reason why normal trades should not have it as an option. It would consume some resources though (RAM and maybe even blockchain space)

For now you can do that here: https://bter.com/trade/BITUSD_USD

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General Discussion / Re: Where is BitCNY?
« on: September 06, 2014, 01:21:38 am »
The flip is BTSX tabs and the supply is fixed (can't short)

If "can't short" is a feature of the flipped market I don't understand BM's remark, "your short bid is much lower than any ask" clearly refers to a flipped market.

edit: maybe the current problem with the BitUSD market is related to this one. No shorts possible far from the peg, so the 10m BTSX order got kicked out?

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General Discussion / Re: insufficient depth ?
« on: September 06, 2014, 01:14:22 am »
You can still trade BitBTC :)

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General Discussion / Re: Where is BitCNY?
« on: September 06, 2014, 01:03:22 am »
With the GUI I can't (using 0.4.12, Win 32bit)
If I flip the market the short tab disappears totally.

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Technical Support / Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« on: September 05, 2014, 01:42:36 pm »
OK, I've got a stupid question too:

Does anybody else think that BitShares sounds like a well known word for "female dogs"?

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Technical Support / Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« on: September 05, 2014, 01:39:17 pm »
- I am always mixing up "ask" and "short" .. is there an easy way to remember what is what? Especially if you consider that the market USD/BTSX can be flipped to BTSX/USD??

It's originally called ask because you are asking for money. So you want to sell something (that normally would not be money).

When you trade money for money it just becomes confusing :)

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