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Title: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: cob on October 08, 2015, 09:09:29 pm
Hi guys, pretty self explanatory.

Any ideas for a MUSE logo?

In a nutshell, it aims to be the foundation on which the new entertainment industry would build off of.
Does not need to be ultra music centric. It should be attractive to music yes, but to anyone that has a fan base.
Talent discovery
Fan engagement
Transfer of wealth in the entertainment business.

Logo! LOGO!
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggests from community)
Post by: hero on October 09, 2015, 03:21:39 am
 +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggests from community)
Post by: woolcii on October 09, 2015, 03:30:42 am
cool
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggests from community)
Post by: cass on October 09, 2015, 03:35:38 am
 :P
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: cass on October 09, 2015, 05:49:15 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/p6Gd88B.png)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: Ander on October 09, 2015, 05:53:50 pm
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ITVG9Yms4fw/UQqbuEzFjFI/AAAAAAAAAlc/ZmvF_2gNrdA/s1600/Muse+Wallpaper+3.jpg)

:P
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: clayop on October 09, 2015, 05:56:07 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/p6Gd88B.png)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/52/129655445_1c4ed4298a.jpg)

m&m  :P
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: MarketingMonk on October 09, 2015, 06:29:07 pm
I'd suggest before logo comes brand.

Write the mission, vision and values first.
If the brand were a person, what would their personality be like?

What would they stand for? What would they stand against?

To me, logo is just a symbol, a visual representation of the brand. Brand is the identity that rarely changes.

Brand is 'the promise' to the customer. It's how a customer feels about the brand. It's how the customer perceives the company, that to me is brand.

The phase "we are re-branding" is often a misuse of language. They mean "we are updating our logo".

A true re-brand would be changing what your company stands for, changing it's fundamental purpose for being. If that's what you're doing, I'd suggest it's better to start a new business altogether with a new brand else it will confuse the marketplace.

Here's the process I use to guide my consulting clients through this process:


In my marketing framework:

Mission - why do we exist?
Vision - what are we going to do?
Values - what makes us different to everyone else? (hint: your belief system is what make you different)

Examples:

Google's Mission
To organise the worlds information and make it useful (will never be completed, hence the company will always have a purpose)

Bytemaster's personal mission
To secure life, liberty and property for all.
(Maybe that's more vision because technically it could be accomplished?)

Microsoft's original Vision
A computer on every desk (they pretty much reached that milestone so had to update it).

Zappo's Values
Deliver WOW Through Service
Embrace and Drive Change
Create Fun and A Little Weirdness
Be Adventurous, Creative, and Open-Minded
Pursue Growth and Learning
Build Open and Honest Relationships With Communication
Build a Positive Team and Family Spirit
Do More With Less
Be Passionate and Determined
Be Humble

Again I must stress that this is my personal marketing framework (https://marketingmandala.com) that I've developed over my decade of experience. It works for me and I offer it to you without conditions i.e. do with it as you wish, including filing it under B1N :)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: santaclause102 on October 09, 2015, 06:52:04 pm
I'd suggest before logo comes brand.

Write the mission, vision and values first.
If the brand were a person, what would their personality be like?

What would they stand for? What would they stand against?

To me, logo is just a symbol, a visual representation of the brand. Brand is the identity that rarely changes.

Brand is 'the promise' to the customer. It's how a customer feels about the brand. It's how the customer perceives the company, that to me is brand.

The phase "we are re-branding" is often a misuse of language. They mean "we are updating our logo".

A true re-brand would be changing what your company stands for, changing it's fundamental purpose for being. If that's what you're doing, I'd suggest it's better to start a new business altogether with a new brand else it will confuse the marketplace.

Here's the process I use to guide my consulting clients through this process:

  • Mission (i.e. what process are we engaged in that can never be completed)
  • Vision (i.e. what milestone to reach that lets us know the mission is on course)
  • Values (i.e. what do we believe is most important in our business / what do we stand for)

In my marketing framework:

Mission - why do we exist?
Vision - what are we going to do?
Values - what makes us different to everyone else? (hint: your belief system is what make you different)

Examples:

Google's Mission
To organise the worlds information and make it useful (will never be completed, hence the company will always have a purpose)

Bytemaster's personal mission
To secure life, liberty and property for all.
(Maybe that's more vision because technically it could be accomplished?)

Microsoft's original Vision
A computer on every desk (they pretty much reached that milestone so had to update it).

Zappo's Values
Deliver WOW Through Service
Embrace and Drive Change
Create Fun and A Little Weirdness
Be Adventurous, Creative, and Open-Minded
Pursue Growth and Learning
Build Open and Honest Relationships With Communication
Build a Positive Team and Family Spirit
Do More With Less
Be Passionate and Determined
Be Humble

Again I must stress that this is my personal marketing framework (https://marketingmandala.com) that I've developed over my decade of experience. It works for me and I offer it to you without conditions i.e. do with it as you wish, including filing it under B1N :)
Associated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A2-7_nujtA
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: pendragon3 on October 10, 2015, 03:32:01 pm
Some interesting stories about logo and icon design that I happened upon:

https://medium.com/the-story/the-story-behind-medium-s-new-logo-4cd3e143dfcf

http://hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/spotify
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: cob on October 11, 2015, 10:21:54 pm
Let's see.
MUSE would enable the flourishing of an ecosystem for the music world.
By being the foundation for the music biz.
By being open, transparent and permanent.

Logo might reflect:
-Solid foundation
-Flourishing of art (artists/bands/musicians & businesses/services)
-ecosystem

This should help with ideas!
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: Musewhale on October 12, 2015, 05:27:44 am

How about this?    (http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/mw690/d15bdcc8gw1ewya905ycjj203w03wjra.jpg)


(http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/mw690/d15bdcc8gw1eqhntyaordg201e01e748.gif)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 12, 2015, 07:18:45 am
(https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asksaro.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F10%2Fmontreal-m-logo.jpg&sp=3fd7bcb5c095dcf9e90b1264b1a47d98)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 12, 2015, 07:22:20 am
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2B-VDoUOMxrxooR2bav76MD6U513_5-BDI055jZm2Legitcwc)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 12, 2015, 07:26:48 am
(http://stockfresh.com/files/j/jul-ja/m/72/1876659_stock-photo-abc-series---water-liquid-alphabet---small-letter-m--.jpg)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 12, 2015, 07:29:00 am
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVFAoUfK6BicotBAxYPmejmX1g04xopH4RV_ZZW5SL7sA0Ypt7)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 12, 2015, 07:30:01 am
(http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple69/v4/2c/90/37/2c90373b-dd01-291e-6bd1-80090b16b19c/icon175x175.jpeg)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 12, 2015, 07:32:23 am
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSsoDA0mn2eVybhoxm0v0GUA6jOE1Hw1ADZ8g1Btob21q-djwo6lg)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: D4vegee on October 12, 2015, 08:08:56 am
(http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple69/v4/2c/90/37/2c90373b-dd01-291e-6bd1-80090b16b19c/icon175x175.jpeg)

 +5% +5% +5% !
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: betax on October 12, 2015, 10:11:01 am
(http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple69/v4/2c/90/37/2c90373b-dd01-291e-6bd1-80090b16b19c/icon175x175.jpeg)

 +5%
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 12, 2015, 10:48:09 am
just a notice...
I have found all logos on internet. They are already in use I assume...
Just posted here to give ideas to create maybe something similar
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: betax on October 12, 2015, 12:01:55 pm
just a notice...
I have found all logos on internet. They are already in use I assume...
Just posted here to give ideas to create maybe something similar

LOL I thought you have started designing, good finds!!!
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: dichalcog3nid3 on October 12, 2015, 12:16:08 pm
MUSE Blockchain Logo Proposal

(http://merkabahnk.io/img/bts/logo9Serpinski_Hexagon.png)
:P
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: testz on October 12, 2015, 12:21:10 pm
(http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple69/v4/2c/90/37/2c90373b-dd01-291e-6bd1-80090b16b19c/icon175x175.jpeg)

 +5% Good idea, need some more work.
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: LaZyeIGhT on October 12, 2015, 01:29:22 pm
(http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple69/v4/2c/90/37/2c90373b-dd01-291e-6bd1-80090b16b19c/icon175x175.jpeg)

http://musical.ly/
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 12, 2015, 01:32:20 pm
(http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple69/v4/2c/90/37/2c90373b-dd01-291e-6bd1-80090b16b19c/icon175x175.jpeg)

http://musical.ly/


https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18841.msg243396.html#msg243396
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: pendragon3 on October 12, 2015, 07:08:01 pm
MUSE Blockchain Logo Proposal

(http://merkabahnk.io/img/bts/logo9Serpinski_Hexagon.png)
:P

Cool... especially the hexagon in the background with the hidden "M" as part of the design. The hexagon suggests distributed peer-to-peer--a level and transparent playing field--and the M would be a great way of tying in to MUSE.

What about having just the hexagon, with the "M" outlined in a different color?
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: bobmaloney on October 12, 2015, 07:27:05 pm
Spectacular

Erlich...it's time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsr-QfgFRh8

Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: dichalcog3nid3 on October 15, 2015, 02:09:38 am
MUSE Blockchain Logo Proposal

(http://merkabahnk.io/img/bts/logo9Serpinski_Hexagon.png)
:P

Cool... especially the hexagon in the background with the hidden "M" as part of the design. The hexagon suggests distributed peer-to-peer--a level and transparent playing field--and the M would be a great way of tying in to MUSE.

What about having just the hexagon, with the "M" outlined in a different color?

Thanks for the input @pendragon3, you have a trained eye indeed! I have correspondingly applied the improvements to the logo proposal.  ;D
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: Overthetop on October 16, 2015, 12:12:16 pm
(http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple69/v4/2c/90/37/2c90373b-dd01-291e-6bd1-80090b16b19c/icon175x175.jpeg)
Blue may be better?  ;)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: pendragon3 on October 16, 2015, 01:30:55 pm
An idea: use sound bars (similar to the sound bar icon in front of the "MUSE" topic on the front page of this forum) roughly in the shape of an M. You could have four or five sound bars with the first and last being taller than the middle ones. For instance, the bar heights from left to right could be given by 4, 2, 2.5, 4.5. Then, the logotype word "MUSE" can appear to the right in some contexts. This could work in black and white as well as with different colors for the bars. Hopefully someone artistic here can take this idea and see where it goes...

Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: roadscape on October 16, 2015, 08:52:59 pm
cass had some great designs in the last thread:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,9930.msg129787.html#msg129787

and plenty others:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,9930.msg132485.html#msg132485
(http://i.imgur.com/Il2aZbB.png)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: pendragon3 on October 18, 2015, 04:02:02 pm
If MUSE is all about entertainment and fan engagement, including music of course but not limited to that domain, then how about:

Geometric shapes involving spotlights or spotlight beams

Paging Cass, liondani, or any other talented folk here with an artistic flair...
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: Musewhale on October 19, 2015, 06:21:52 am
No one likes my LOGO, I feel so desperate +1 +1 +1
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: pendragon3 on October 20, 2015, 03:56:58 am
Ok, here's a crude attempt at a MUSE logo design:

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab4/jcmail/muse_logo_zpstgra2zqi.jpg) (http://s844.photobucket.com/user/jcmail/media/muse_logo_zpstgra2zqi.jpg.html)

The triangle shape for the "M" suggests a strong foundation, and the folded strip can represent an evolving, dynamic blockchain. The artwork is clumsy and needs a lot of work, ha ha. But hopefully the basic idea is clear.
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: cass on October 20, 2015, 04:41:38 am
(http://i.imgur.com/iPVxFcW.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/jyRYI5C.png)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: cass on October 20, 2015, 05:05:39 am
i also really like pendragon3 approach.. so i decided to recreate his idea and want to post it with 100% credit to pendragon3 Hope this is in your interest @pendragon3 :)

(http://i.imgur.com/o47ru3w.png)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 20, 2015, 08:47:12 am
(http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple69/v4/2c/90/37/2c90373b-dd01-291e-6bd1-80090b16b19c/icon175x175.jpeg)
Blue may be better?  ;)

near blue...   :)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YBVGJfOvEC4/ViX_YHrLnRI/AAAAAAAADgY/jGzOzlZc5e4/s1600/muse_lilac.png)

Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: CryptoPrometheus on October 20, 2015, 09:01:04 am
i also really like pendragon3 approach.. so i decided to recreate his idea and want to post it with 100% credit to pendragon3 Hope this is in your interest @pendragon3 :)

(http://i.imgur.com/o47ru3w.png)

Random thought - what if you moved the words underneath the logo, like this:
(http://screenshot.net/oozd1h7.jpg) (http://screenshot.net/oozd1h7)

Of course Cass would have to fix the hi-def source, but you get the idea
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: CryptoPrometheus on October 20, 2015, 09:27:46 am
A few more brainstorms, same caveat as above. @cass, I think maybe these would work better with a different font?

(http://screenshot.net/7yqzgb1.jpg) (http://screenshot.net/7yqzgb1)

(http://screenshot.net/4zn41ho.jpg) (http://screenshot.net/4zn41ho)

(http://screenshot.net/omo1nco.jpg) (http://screenshot.net/omo1nco)

(http://screenshot.net/ovk1xhr.jpg) (http://screenshot.net/ovk1xhr)

(http://screenshot.net/ke8nrfn.jpg) (http://screenshot.net/ke8nrfn)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: cass on October 20, 2015, 10:06:34 am
(http://i.imgur.com/tB05wPc.png)(http://i.imgur.com/IYJZdfU.png)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: cass on October 20, 2015, 10:09:39 am
(http://i.imgur.com/H473oJ0.png)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: facer on October 20, 2015, 10:15:19 am
(http://i.imgur.com/H473oJ0.png)

I like this one, clear and cool!
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: xeroc on October 20, 2015, 10:25:41 am
(http://i.imgur.com/H473oJ0.png)

I like this one, clear and cool!
+1
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: ghost_of_the_internet on October 20, 2015, 02:29:11 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/H473oJ0.png)

I like this one, clear and cool!
+1

Yeah! That's pretty awesome
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: emailtooaj on October 20, 2015, 02:55:12 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/H473oJ0.png)
I'm liking this one also.  Only change would be the icon, maybe add more depth to it, if possible.
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: roadscape on October 20, 2015, 03:14:47 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/H473oJ0.png)
I'm liking this one also.  Only change would be the icon, maybe add more depth to it, if possible.

Great work, cass & pendragon3..  +5%

Agree w/ emailtooaj that the icon could use some depth.. a colored background or foreground could make it pop
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: cob on October 21, 2015, 05:32:42 pm
Those are pretty nice. The Pendragon/Cass logo.

The guy that did the PeerTracks P designed one. the MUSE information page will be based off of that.

MUSE being P2P means everything about it is up to the Members of the Distributed Organization of course.

Everything should be online shortly! Will link it here for yalls review.   (:
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: Akado on October 21, 2015, 05:47:41 pm
i also really like pendragon3 approach.. so i decided to recreate his idea and want to post it with 100% credit to pendragon3 Hope this is in your interest @pendragon3 :)

(http://i.imgur.com/o47ru3w.png)

This is beautiful. The colour scheme is pretty attractive.
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 28, 2015, 08:16:24 pm
so much excellent suggestions and you used the worse logo ever! (just my personal opinion)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rgi8M1-1F80/VjEszku2gUI/AAAAAAAADg4/7BbT8hWA-Vs/s320/icon.png)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: clayop on October 28, 2015, 08:49:54 pm
so much excellent suggestions and you used the worse logo ever! (just my personal opinion)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rgi8M1-1F80/VjEszku2gUI/AAAAAAAADg4/7BbT8hWA-Vs/s320/icon.png)
+5%
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: springlh on October 29, 2015, 02:21:36 am
so much excellent suggestions and you used the worse logo ever! (just my personal opinion)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rgi8M1-1F80/VjEszku2gUI/AAAAAAAADg4/7BbT8hWA-Vs/s320/icon.png)
+5%
+5%
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: Troglodactyl on October 29, 2015, 03:45:18 am
i also really like pendragon3 approach.. so i decided to recreate his idea and want to post it with 100% credit to pendragon3 Hope this is in your interest @pendragon3 :)

(http://i.imgur.com/o47ru3w.png)

Agreed.  This is better.
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: cob on October 29, 2015, 03:57:37 am
so much excellent suggestions and you used the worse logo ever! (just my personal opinion)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rgi8M1-1F80/VjEszku2gUI/AAAAAAAADg4/7BbT8hWA-Vs/s320/icon.png)

If that becomes a big issue, it can always be changed. MUSE is P2P and community owned afterall!
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 29, 2015, 09:08:19 am
so much excellent suggestions and you used the worse logo ever! (just my personal opinion)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rgi8M1-1F80/VjEszku2gUI/AAAAAAAADg4/7BbT8hWA-Vs/s320/icon.png)

If that becomes a big issue, it can always be changed. MUSE is P2P and community owned afterall!

the logo is the very first impression... so sincerely I think the project deserves something much better than this  .....
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: cass on October 29, 2015, 09:11:04 am
so much excellent suggestions and you used the worse logo ever! (just my personal opinion)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rgi8M1-1F80/VjEszku2gUI/AAAAAAAADg4/7BbT8hWA-Vs/s320/icon.png)

If that becomes a big issue, it can always be changed. MUSE is P2P and community owned afterall!

the logo is the very first impression... so sincerely I think the project deserves something much better than this  .....

let's calm down .. and stay tuned over the next few weeks ...
Worker proposals will come soon etc ...
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 29, 2015, 09:44:44 am
let's calm down ..

hope the investor's don't do it...
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: Ben Mason on October 29, 2015, 10:52:08 am
i also really like pendragon3 approach.. so i decided to recreate his idea and want to post it with 100% credit to pendragon3 Hope this is in your interest @pendragon3 :)

(http://i.imgur.com/o47ru3w.png)

This is beautiful. The colour scheme is pretty attractive.

Completely agree.  This image is beautiful and really resonated with me.  I haven't come up with anything anywhere near as good.....and i've been trying for ages! :)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: Ben Mason on October 29, 2015, 10:54:04 am
so much excellent suggestions and you used the worse logo ever! (just my personal opinion)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rgi8M1-1F80/VjEszku2gUI/AAAAAAAADg4/7BbT8hWA-Vs/s320/icon.png)

I really like this logo too, only I think it could be refined some more to give it greater elegance.
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: cass on October 29, 2015, 11:02:57 am
let's calm down ..

hope the investor's don't do it...

… not really helpful such comments ... (i'm also an investor ... just to be clear !)
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: liondani on October 29, 2015, 11:50:32 am
let's calm down ..

hope the investor's don't do it...

… not really helpful such comments ... (i'm also an investor ... just to be clear !)

I am tired with the attitude:  "Hide under the carpet everything is not good (because it will hurt our image/price if publicly mentioned...)"
Anything thats sucks must be mentioned ...  What do you honestly believe about the current logo(you are the expert)? Do you prefer it stays, and nobody  ask for a change.... or some of us get a little bit harsh ... but it changes?
Title: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: phillyguy on October 29, 2015, 12:07:11 pm
A little tongue in cheek here but....The Flying Liberty Bell logo with Muse written in a font from the movie Blade Runner is...not good. The Pendragon3/Cass logo is much much better.

Edit: would much rather see this changed now than wait.
Title: Re: MUSE LOGO (suggestions from community)
Post by: cass on October 29, 2015, 12:12:30 pm
let's calm down ..

hope the investor's don't do it...

… not really helpful such comments ... (i'm also an investor ... just to be clear !)

I am tired with the attitude:  "Hide under the carpet everything is not good (because it will hurt our image/price if publicly mentioned...)"
Anything thats sucks must be mentioned ...  What do you honestly believe about the current logo(you are the expert)? Do you prefer it stays, and nobody  ask for a change.... or some of us get a little bit harsh ... but it changes?

liondani .. why u think i'm creating alternative logo ideas? .. sure i'm thinking the complete CI can get reworked completely ..
but i'm trying to stay focus and offering helping hands ...

With complaining we won't convince them faster then creating alternative ways for them to go ..
I'll leave this discussion for now ..