I think it's clear this shouldn't be messed with in BTS right now as the community consensus is pretty unanimous and specifically because of the negative impact it may have on the Chinese market.

I think the numbers (early Bitcoin as well as new sites) show that a DAC which offered blockchain based BitAsset gambling could easily surpass BitShares.

Quote from: Carpet Ride on February 02, 2015, 11:32:27 pm

Quote from: Rune on February 02, 2015, 04:27:26 pm

This should not be a delegate. In fact I think we are on the wrong track regarding delegate funding of for-profit businesses. It only makes sense if we are paying to get the advantage of some major infrastructure, like from an exchange. Otherwise it just means the blockchain is subsidizing projects that aren't economically viable enough to raise capital on their own. Delegates only make sense for things that are public goods for all BTS shareholders like core development, open source project development, or bitasset marketing.

Largely Agree. Esp on BitAsset marketing. 


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It is bitasset marketing since it will use bitassets.. since there will be good deals there will be alot of new bitshares users its garanteed...

Its buying new users.

I like the other stuff you are working on. I'm also a big fan of anything that directly integrates BitAssets.
However this seems a bit niche, you already tried it with devcoin and it didn't get much traction & BTS won't necessarily be different. Are there any other crypto's  with popular auction style sites?

Quote from: Empirical1.2 on February 01, 2015, 11:41:08 pm

.... It would be great for BitShares to have the top BitGold video

Now i think this has potential. Think about it - what if we created a really good and professional video for bitgold and promoted it wide and far. Really pushing home the truth about bitgold that differentiates us - where else can you earn interest on gold and hold it without counter party risk? - this could raise our profile in one move on places like youtube.  Maybe offer a free 1oz per day for a week or two in some sort of competition?

BM said we need to use the term BitGold more than our competition. What better way than a controversial, thought provoking, hard hitting professionally made video? Now we'd have to get it right first time. No screw ups.

Just my 2 cents.

Yes I'm pretty sure the BitGold.com  Eric Sprott is an investor in will probably have a BitGold video out as well soon. As I said the BitSharesTV videos get a lot of views so just one titled along the lines of 'BitGold by BitShares'  would be great & have a shot at the top spot in the meantime before we have a BitGold promotion video.

Mainstream adoption will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER happen if the product is clunky, buggy, and looks like shit.  If you think I'm wrong, point me to an example. 

Bitcoin.

Their product took ages to download, didn't look great and it takes ages to confirm a transaction.

In 2012 with an average circa $75 million CAP, over 2.5 million BTC were wagered on simple gambling games. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/01/22/bitcoin-casinos-release-2012-earnings/

& in the following year, billions of dollars were wagered at Just-Dice.com. Gambling really helped bootstrap it and gave it a recreational use, up to 60% of transactions in the bootstrapping phase all the way to last year were gambling transactions.

I'd like blockchain gambling but is a UIA on BTS that is used for gambling OK for BTS in China?

NXT already have 3 gambling UIA's that are in development/beta. Surely we can't stop people from doing what they want with their UIA?

Quote from: xiahui135 on February 02, 2015, 01:49:55 am

In fact there are several dices in NXT.  If we want to do it, then we should make it good. The users should not just the bts holders. It should be on a website as a gateway to attract new blood.

Yes it would be good if there was eventually a website too.

Where are the NXT dice sites? In the wallet?

I had a brief look.

http://neodice.com/   

It's a UIA in NXT. It says it's currently in beta. It has a CAP of $130 000. Doubt it will be popular as you have to trade your NXT for NEOCHIPS and then you have to deal with the very slow NXT blockchain (by comparison to centralised site.) Seems you might have to wait 4 minutes + to know if you had a winning spin.

PangeaPoker

It's another UIA on NXT. It has a CAP of $450 000 even though it is a few months away from launch. Not looked into it more. https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/pangea-poker/

PrivateBet

UIA on NXT. A CAP of $70 000. Casino games and P2P sports betting. Also not launched yet might be same people doing NeoDice. Looks like they won funding/auction from Come-From-Beyond to develop it http://nxter.org/privatebet-asset-nxt-ae/

I don't know about the poker but I imagine the other games will be incredibly slow compared to centralized options, it also seems they will also require you to use UIA tokens as opposed to NXT.

Competitors like NXT are pursuing & working on dice, poker, casino games & P2P sports betting.

Quote from: Empirical1.2 on February 01, 2015, 11:41:08 pm

You're from South Korea clayop? I was really suprised to see according to Alexa, 25% of BitShares.org visitors are from there. I don't think they count China but still I think that must be a mistake.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitshares.org

Because I put much effort to advertising Bitshares in Korean crypto communities, I think this may be possible. Bitshares 101 Korean version is free and available online now, many people are contacting me with their problems, I regularly update about new client versions and important news. Should I increase my payrate? 

  Wow, well done  If that trend keeps up, then you really should increase your payrate imo!