Gaming proposal , not accepted .

[cass]

Agreed . Time frame matters . Etherum will be out in March , and several other projects competing for market space . If 1.0 weren't ready by then , there maybe no second chances to let some of the major investors stay . Now there are only 27 days left .

And we just failed the network again on last Saturday with reasons unknown .
It's to luxurious to focus on anything else for the moment , including gambling and BM's blog .

I fully agree. Get this stable & user-friendly ASAP. Then we can sell it.

This. 

 

[mdj]

No new features in the blockchain!!!!

The things listed here is all we need:
https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/milestones

All other resources beyond this should be focusing on UX. Unless UX is perfect then NO MORE FEATURES!

Let's perfect what we have - no more feature creep! Play the long term game - there's no reason why gambling sites/features can't be implemented by third party websites outside of the client anyway.

IMO the client should only be focussed on Bitassets and a smooth seamless, satisfying trading experience.

[oldman]

Seeing as that BM realises BTS is about to fail and is putting it in as a desperate step, everybody should vote yes.

spoiler alert : BTS is gonna go viral in several months due to some major promotion effort in China , unless we do something to drag their feet . A crowd funding company already got millions of USD of VC to operate their operation on BTS . That's once in a life time opportunity for BTS .

As a matter of fact , all they want is no more surprises , a stable wallet and protocol ,  everything will work out eventually .

Left hand meet right hand. Hope east and west are talking..

Agree with keeping noses clean until some momentum/market share has been gained.

Pure, unhindered functionality is all we need for the first leg up.

[Empirical1.2]

Mainstream adoption will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER happen if the product is clunky, buggy, and looks like shit.  If you think I'm wrong, point me to an example. 

Bitcoin.

Their product took ages to download, didn't look great and it takes ages to confirm a transaction.

In 2012 with an average circa $75 million CAP, over 2.5 million BTC were wagered on simple gambling games. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/01/22/bitcoin-casinos-release-2012-earnings/

& in the following year, billions of dollars were wagered at Just-Dice.com. Gambling really helped bootstrap it and gave it a recreational use, up to 60% of transactions in the bootstrapping phase all the way to last year were gambling transactions.

[donkeypong]

I agree with 'Discuss this again in several months".

Get the stable client and lite wallet that we need NOW out asap.  We have tons of good ideas already.  We need execution on these ideas more than we need more ideas right now.

 

I agree with these, except that six months is a long time in crypto. Let's discuss it again in two or three months' time.

[inarizushi]

I agree with 'Discuss this again in several months".

Get the stable client and lite wallet that we need NOW out asap.  We have tons of good ideas already.  We need execution on these ideas more than we need more ideas right now.

 

[Ander]

I agree with 'Discuss this again in several months".

Get the stable client and lite wallet that we need NOW out asap.  We have tons of good ideas already.  We need execution on these ideas more than we need more ideas right now.

[nomoreheroes7]

There needs to be a third option...discuss again in 6 months.

It wont be the lack of features that prevent people from using BitShares...

Mainstream adoption will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER happen if the product is clunky, buggy, and looks like shit.  If you think I'm wrong, point me to an example.  THIS SHOULD BE PRIORITY NUMBER 1.  Trading in the decentralized market should be as smooth, clean, and simple as trading on Bter.  Looks matter. CLI functions, even if can be used by power users, should be considered as non-existent, and never advertised.  If its not easy to use, for all practical purposes, it doesn't exist. Who do we want to attract, upper class business folks, or degenerate gamblers looking for their Bingo fix??

Yup.

[sschechter]

There needs to be a third option...discuss again in 6 months.

It wont be the lack of features that prevent people from using BitShares...

Mainstream adoption will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER happen if the product is clunky, buggy, and looks like shit.  If you think I'm wrong, point me to an example.  THIS SHOULD BE PRIORITY NUMBER 1.  Trading in the decentralized market should be as smooth, clean, and simple as trading on Bter.  Looks matter. CLI functions, even if can be used by power users, should be considered as non-existent, and never advertised.  If its not easy to use, for all practical purposes, it doesn't exist. Who do we want to attract, upper class business folks, or degenerate gamblers looking for their Bingo fix??

[Empirical1.2]

I definitely don't want to mess with anything that could damage BTS in China but BTS is supposed to be a Super-DAC not a SuperLimited/Constrained-DAC. It means we need other DACs.

Online - Bitcoin - & now blockchain based gambling is hugely lucrative.  If our rockstar developers are capable of & want to add gambling to a DPOS blockchain why should they and we miss out on that value.

[svk]

Agreed . Time frame matters . Etherum will be out in March , and several other projects competing for market space . If 1.0 weren't ready by then , there maybe no second chances to let some of the major investors stay . Now there are only 27 days left .

And we just failed the network again on last Saturday with reasons unknown .
It's to luxurious to focus on anything else for the moment , including gambling and BM's blog .

I fully agree. Get this stable & user-friendly ASAP. Then we can sell it.

This. 

[rb2]

Wasnt the focus on a stable release, a light client, and bitusd? Why always create distractions that are counter-productive in the end?

[Empirical1.2]

I'd like blockchain gambling but is a UIA on BTS that is used for gambling OK for BTS in China?

NXT already have 3 gambling UIA's that are in development/beta. Surely we can't stop people from doing what they want with their UIA?

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

Seeing as that BM realises BTS is about to fail and is putting it in as a desperate step, everybody should vote yes.

spoiler alert : BTS is gonna go viral in several months due to some major promotion effort in China , unless we do something to drag their feet . A crowd funding company already got millions of USD of VC to operate their operation on BTS . That's once in a life time opportunity for BTS .

As a matter of fact , all they want is no more surprises , a stable wallet and protocol ,  everything will work out eventually .

Like the sounds of that! 

[cn-members]

Agreed . Time frame matters . Etherum will be out in March , and several other projects competing for market space . If 1.0 weren't ready by then , there maybe no second chances to let some of the major investors stay . Now there are only 27 days left .

And we just failed the network again on last Saturday with reasons unknown .
It's to luxurious to focus on anything else for the moment , including gambling and BM's blog .

I fully agree. Get this stable & user-friendly ASAP. Then we can sell it.

I voted that I support the gambling idea, but in the interests of time I too think it is way more important to get what we have stable and perfect first. BTS gambling can be reconsidered once we're rock solid and looking for new ways to expand the ecosystem.

Also agree about the blog-time. There's just no way that the number of users positively turned on to BTS from the blog justifies the time necessary to prepare posts for it. In fact there's a good chance plenty more potentially-interested users have been fully turned off to BTS due to the controversial nature of several articles...

We have a small project that's already turned on some interesting people . A adult product shop accepted BitCNY , and they would do free marketing for us . Over time , people should realize it's not convincing the public that matters , the key is to convince those who can convince the mass . and they'll do the rest for us . Save our energy to produce a solid product , those who really like it , would advocate it for us .