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General Discussion / Re: Looking for a tech to run my delegate
« on: January 07, 2015, 10:52:02 am »
HI everyone,

I will begin campaigning for a couple delegate positions in the near future.   edit: 1 payroll and 1 marketing funds

In the spirit of Bytemaster and others I am looking for someone who wants to specialize in doing that. Keep 3% for themselves and pass the remaining 97% on to me weekly.

Maintaining regular price feeds is very important of course.   For the sake of decentralization, I am very interested in non-US based individuals, but that is just one factor.  If you are interested and have a reputation here please post here.

Cheers
Max

Why only 3% passing to the helper delegate ? All current helper delegates are rewarded 5% and are passing 95% of funds...
After all, active delegates right now already earns 3% and at least at current market cap the expenses are much more (VPS,time etc.). Why should they add more responsibilities for the same payrate? Don't you think you must pay the same at least like all the others do ? Not to mention possible risk's that helper delegates take...I am still not sure if 5% is even enough.... am I missing something again?


PS of course we will support your delegates

Hey lion,

Thanks for the heads up.  I thought 3% was the going rate.  If it is 5, then I am happy with 5.  I will edit the OP.

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General Discussion / Re: Looking for a tech to run my delegate
« on: January 07, 2015, 10:50:26 am »
You'll get my vote and my full support also  +5%

You have watched his said campaign video I suppose, otherwise you are acting unprofessional as you are sort of "official" imo.

Ive watched all his video interviews so far, and read his book. He is a real pro. He has my full support as well.  He is helping to get things going as much or more than anyone I know.

I have watched them too. The point remains that he already will enjoy the fruits of everyone elses labor with this bonus and there is no way to decouple him from this unfair advantage.  What he will make from the marketcap doubling will not be shared by the others who have contributed to that increase.  Can you honestly say he is the only person in a non development role who deserves the deal he is already getting?  It should be a simple, and honorable choice.  Either play fair with all the other marketing delegates by tearing up the previous contract and running his own delegate, share the bonus with all community marketing members, or just dont run a delegate.

I dont like my chances of convincing you otherwise tickle, but I think you could look at this another way.

1. All delegates and stake holders are tied together.  We either all win or we all lose.  There is no way to de-couple that.  And it works both ways.   I could do an outstanding job and the tech team could never release protocol 1.0 and I get nothing. This is business.  In my busineess that I am ignoring while I work on bitshares, I have marketers, tech teams and CEO's all on incentive structures based on revenues and profits. There is no way to de-couple.  It would be great if there were, but there is not.   I would rather be judged on some nice neat metric that I have total control over. A metric that is not affected by others. I am very confident in my ability to get views and drive interest in BirShares. Unfortunately I must take the team risk like everybody else.

2. In any large organization there are lots of different payrates/ salaries/ bonuses, etc. That is because everyone has different value. There is no point grumbling about that. I certainly did not grumble that Brian got X, or Stan gets Y or Bytemaster gets Z. I just made a proposal to BM which he accepted and got to work.  All I can do is be open and honest and that agreement and make a proposal. The share holders will decide if I am delivering enough value to receive their vote. The market will speak shortly and I will have to live with their decision just like every other delegate proposal must.

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General Discussion / Re: Looking for a tech to run my delegate
« on: January 07, 2015, 07:29:56 am »
+5%  Sounds good. Max has clearly demonstrated value and has my full support.

Thank you Toast.

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General Discussion / Re: Looking for a tech to run my delegate
« on: January 07, 2015, 07:15:38 am »
All good questions. All answered in my delegate campaign video.  I am only asking for 1 payroll delegate.

Now people please... leave me some thunder for my delegate campaign video    :P

I anticipated these questions and many more in the video, but let me get set up first.

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General Discussion / Re: Looking for a tech to run my delegate
« on: January 07, 2015, 06:42:29 am »
Hi Toast,  Thanks for the questions.

When I campaign for the delegate position, I will be completely transparent on all of that, and what funds will be used for.  I have already made a video so I would just rather release that video at the appropriate time and I actually have a delagate that people can vote for.  I am not trying to avoid the question.

I won't be trading anything off though.  In the same way devs have received a salary and a year end bonus, I received a conditional rewards contract that is back-end heavy.  All the work I have put in so far is not for the rewards I have received but for the rewards I will receive after bitshares market cap has increased another order of magnitude or two.

The delegate payroll I will campaign for will be in addition to this contract in the same way dev deleagates are in addition to their payouts and bonuses.

As I said there will be full disclosure in my campaign video and the community can decide if a 101 delegate position is appropriate.

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General Discussion / Looking for a tech to run my delegate
« on: January 07, 2015, 05:41:01 am »
HI everyone,

I will begin campaigning for a couple delegate positions in the near future.   edit: 1 payroll and 1 marketing funds

In the spirit of Bytemaster and others I am looking for someone who wants to specialize in doing that. Keep 3% 5% for themselves and pass the remaining 97% 95% on to me weekly.

Maintaining regular price feeds is very important of course.   For the sake of decentralization, I am very interested in non-US based individuals, but that is just one factor.  If you are interested and have a reputation here please post here.

edit: You must be running a delegate with regular price feeds to apply.
Cheers
Max

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General Discussion / Re: I was interviewed on a FOREX show today
« on: January 07, 2015, 04:19:10 am »
I had a fair few forex people follow me on twitter so I think it was better received than I originally thought.  Happy to do more in the future.

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General Discussion / I was interviewed on a FOREX show today
« on: January 06, 2015, 11:13:22 pm »
Not many views, but I thought I Would share anyway.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/57283183

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares 101 Korean translation is done
« on: January 06, 2015, 07:47:06 am »
That is awesome   :D

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General Discussion / Re: Making Sales for BitShares
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:40:47 am »
I agree wholeheartedly with OP

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Great and Timely article.

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What if a gateway only wants to provide a one way USD -> someAsset,   they wouldn't need to create a iou UIA right?  is that still considered a 'gateway' ? 

If localbitcoins sellers can exchange without meeting KYC requirements how does this differ from the above simple gateway?  Could not anyone with a bank account offer that immediately without any hoops?

I guess a localbitcoins example would use escrow and a gateway wouldn't ?

The way they would do it is, they accept USD dollars into their account.  and they issue XeldarIOU's on the blockchain.  Now the user can trade those for any asset on the bitshares exchange. Its up to Xelder to be a market maker for all their IOU's.   So what is likely to happen is Xelder will be a market maker for XeldarIOU <> bitUSD.  In this way bitUSD becomes the reserve currency of the exchange.

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Great episode!

If we pretend I'm a gateway, is this how it works?

I accept £100 to my bank account from a buyer who wants to buy bitGBP.

I issue issue 100 matt608GBP to the buyer - which is an IOU from me to the buyer for 100 GBP, an iouGBP - NOT ioubitGBP.

An order book is created in the BitShares client for matt608GBP/bitGBP

People who want to cash out of bitGBP into GBP buy my GBP iou.  To withdraw to their bank account means I send them £100 from my bank account. - is that correct?

So each gateway still has their own separate orderboook except its on the BitShares blockchain.

bitstamp doesn't issue "bitstamp bitUSD", they issue "bitstamp  iouUSD", then if someone buys it they can redeem it at the exchange for USD.

So it appears this means anyone who has achieved local regulatory approval can be a gateway? You could have lots of small gateways starting up in any country providing the person can use their bank account.

Can it all be done entirely within the BitShares client - no exchange website even needed?!  I could simply announce I am now a gateway and provide bank account deposit details on my wall on my BitShares account. People could start making GBP deposits. I issue them matt608GBP.  People who want to sell their bitGBP for GBP buy the IOU from my depositors.  They can then send me the IOU with a memo including their bank account details.  I send them GBP from my account.  If the person who bought the matt608GBP changed their mind and wanted to sell it back to GBP, they could send it back to me and I would send them 100 GBP from my bank account (minus a tiny exchange fee).

Voila.  An gateway can be launched without even coding anything new!

I have no plans to do this of course due not being able to use my bank account for this, but I'm just thinking theoretically around the world.  Any exchanges that already has completed the KYC + regulatory approval could start doing this without even having to do anything to their website.  They just create an account on BitShares and put up their bank account details on their BitShares account wall, issue an IOU and start trading.  They could optionally just add 1 page to their website displaying iou/bitasset order book if they wanted to.  Or they could even just have page telling users they are now a gateway for BitShares and direct them to download the client and visit their account where they will find the banking deposit details.

The only problem is to have regulatory approval they have to have your ID info which means the user would have to verify themselves on the gateways website first before trading, but thats no big deal.  It means all currently approved users of any exchange could trade like this, all an exchange has to do to become a BitShares gateway is make a BitShares account, issue an IOU and start trading.  No integration is even required.  Customers would just need an unique ID that ties them to their exchange account.  Simple.

Is my understanding correct?

You nailed it.

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What really is the advantage of a decentralized exchange compared to say Bitstamp (in the light of the recent Bitstamp hack)? Gateways would also have to store BTC. And also have a hot wallet?
yes .. bitstampUSD (IOU) have the same issue .. IF THERE wasn't the power of user-issued assets that allow a MASTER key to manipulate (freeze, withdraw, deposit, burn,...)  individual account balances .. :)

If a bitshares gateway gets hacked ... the gateway identifies those balances in time (critical) and freezes the IOUs

The key is that you can convert your gateway IOU into a securitized asset and then place it on the order book.  The balances held in IOU's will be significantly less at any given point in time.

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