I think most people would be better with brownies as a share drop target if BM didn't have absolute control.  Being able to give them out is one thing, but being able to take them away is completely different.  I trust BM now, but he is human and even the best people have sacrificed their beliefs for money, power, or avoidance of jail.  Under some sort of threat, Dan could go and retract all Brownies from everyone...

There should be some sort of table or rubric that explains how brownies are earned.  For example how much is pumping your investment in a forum and saying  worth in comparison to what Arhag did with programming?  I got paid 300 Brownies for setting up an interview with FXStreet. How does that compare to contributing on the programming side, which BM seems to favor?  There is so much fog and so much discrepancy which makes them unsuitable as a target.

What is your timeline?  SETL already has 100k transactions per second and are moving quickly to start processing orders on the Canadian exchanges.

I feel Anonymity was the one thing that was holding people in crypto together.  Now this is going to split the community as we have already seen from Erlich Bachman.  Divide and conquer.

You say this is like a Trojan Horse to the banks, but you are allotting the majority of your funds to "strategic partners"... Investors don't give a shit about anything but making money.  Building a Trojan Horse to take down banks is on the opposite end of their ideological spectrum.

I get the "Rah Rah, we are doing this for bitshares!" thing, but it seems like a facade so that we go along with the idea.  I'm all for making money and my bank account hopes this is tremendously successful, but until there is a real plan for converting people to freedom and privacy this just looks like another version of SETL or Ripple.

Quote from: Empirical1.2 on August 12, 2015, 06:36:46 pm

Sold the bad news first!

Lol!

Yeah I dont know how people are going to react to the anti-anonymity chain. 

I expect newmine to do his best to turn this into something he can attack us with.


Sharedrops are great though, I love to see announcements of BTS getting sharedrops.

The best part of the announcement is that more people are doing share drops on BTS... I think the actual idea is a non starter (especially because there is already competition by SETL) but I'll look at the positives with people dropping on BTS.

Quote from: lil_jay890 on August 12, 2015, 03:19:35 pm

So are you saying something like this:

"Every Address with > 1000 bts will receive 10 MKR" I for one would create a bunch of accounts and spread out a large portion of my BTS to take advantage.  This would be done easily and securely and would definitely be gamed.

I would imagine the drop is proportional to BTS held. Say x% of BTS held per address up to a max of say 1,000,000 BTS. Empty addresses get nothing. The only ones who might game it would be those with like 5 million BTS split across a bunch of accounts. Doubt that's going to be a huge problem though. And it would make it so exchanges like BTC38 don't get credited for their millions upon millions of BTS held (unless they too split accounts? not sure).

Hell you could even make the sharedrop effective as of stake held yesterday, before we even thought of this, hah.

It's a weird situation that we are in here.  Rune wants support from our community, but doesn't plan on using the BTS technology from what I understand.  He could create an asset, and post on the forum for people to claim the asset.  He could even use the Brownie pt google spread sheet that Fuzzy created to get a list of active BTS members.  Since he wants support from more vocal members, this would be a good sharedrop target.  Send the newly created asset to the members on the spreadsheet from say the 8/7/15 mumble and let them claim their MKR using the newly issued asset.

I still don't think its a big deal if exchanges get the share drop... They can pass the dropped tokens on to their customers. 

Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on August 12, 2015, 02:47:48 pm

Quote from: puppies on August 12, 2015, 02:42:18 pm

Why not just do a bts share drop with an upward limit.  Cap the amount any one address gets.  You could get wide distribution without breaking the bank, or over feeding the whales.

I like this idea. 

me2 

Problem with this... What about dead addresses or multiple accounts created by one person (Name Narwhal)  Then you end up giving the most MKR to people who are only trying to exploit a loophole.

Short bitCNY for your lives!

Quote from: TRilon on August 11, 2015, 10:32:36 am

Quote from: fav on August 11, 2015, 09:35:55 am

Any ETA on playstore add?

It would be very good to become popular and attract new users

Its a tricky question.

On one side we want to have a period of beta while we test our backend live and adjust details/bugs etc.

On the other side since we don't know the exact release date of BTS 2.0 we are in kind of debating if we should publish the wallet supporting 0.9.X or wait for the final BTS 2.0 ..... gauging

I would recommend releasing it now and then requiring an upgrade after 2.0.  Incorporate a message that there will be a mandatory upgrade on the day the exchanges upgrade.  You will have 30 days to test with de shares prior to the snapshot.

Quote from: lil_jay890 on August 10, 2015, 04:05:13 pm

Quote from: BitEnthusiast on August 10, 2015, 03:48:30 pm

Just take a look at behance.com and look through the web design, ui/ux categories.

Here's a link to an article published on TheNextWeb. I think we need to go with what's trending. The trend is your friend:

http://thenextweb.com/dd/2015/07/24/6-design-trends-taking-over-the-web/

Also take a look at the Tickr open data platform website on your phone and on your computer. Pay attention to the UI/UX and not the product.

tickr.com

IMHO this is the direction we need to go in. Simplicity in design and user experience is key in todays mobile sites, websites, software, and mobile applications. Notice how most websites, mobile sites, and software are similar to mobile apps.

I couldn't get tickr.com to load, and I think bitshares.org is as good if not better than behance.  I know the new trend is to use a bunch of flash and expanding menus, but I believe that clutters many web pages.  We are trying to convey a message that our platform is robust, clean, and efficient.  The people we are trying to get to build around our technology don't need flash and pizzazz, they need consistency and reliability.  I believe the current bitshares.org website does this very well.

I have to disagree. The trend is simple, minimalist, flat design styles, most sites don't use flash design. I think that those design styles do convey a clean and efficient platform. I think the people we are trying to get to build around our tech is everybody. The back-end may be consistent and reliable, but what about the front end? UI/UX is about communication. How could we tell Bitshares story with a outdated design? Did you look in the categories and not the behance website itself?

This goes back to having 3rd parties develop wallets.  Currently limewallet, web wallet, and desktop wallet are the only versions available.  Soon moonstone will be released as another wallet.  It will be up to 3rd parties to design wallets to attract users.  They will get paid via referral fees that are automatically credited to their accounts for every transaction that their referred user makes.

The bitshares GUI that is in development is actually designed to be phased out of use as 3rd party solutions grow in numbers.  This may not happen for years, so extra time is being spent on the wallet by cryptonomex to ensure that it is responsive and attractive.

If you feel that the wallets are unattractive, then that is an opportunity that you can capitalize on.  Create a wallet design that you feel is better than everyone else's.  If the market thinks yours is the best you will attract the most users and benefit from referral fees of every transaction your wallet user makes.